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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by sailorman126 View Post
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    the plans that bush got where bad and had very little chance of success so that is why they did not use them and if obama had those plans he would have passed on them also at least he should have. the plans that obama got had a very high chance of sucess that is why they where used, see the diffrence it had nothign to do with who is in office it has to do with the chance of sucess.
    so if bush or any president had the plans that obama got it was a no brainer because the risk of failure was small.
    Further, when bush was around OBL was on the move. However under Obama, OBL was stationary for years, hell Obama probably took months to decide what to do. Should I, should I not, should I, should I not.............. You know like he did when he could not figure out what to do in Afghanistan, should I add troops, should I not....... Because he could not figure it out, he took Bush's approach and went with the surge. The same surge he said would fail in Iraq.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by darth omar View Post
    Not making bin Laden a priority was the Bush strategy.
    Bin Laden was A priority for Bush.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jviehe View Post
    Bin Laden was A priority for Bush.
    I realize you live in a fantasy world, but according to Bush you're wrong.

    Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube
    Remember, this is just SIX MONTHS after 9/11. In response to a reporters question, President Bush tells the world that he is "truly not that concerned" with catching the man who murdered 3,000 Americans just six months and two days earlier because "we've marginalized him.

    Bush Quotes about Bin Laden - BuzzFlash Reader Commentary

    FLASHBACK: Bush On Bin Laden: 'I Really Just Don't Spend That Much Time On Him' | ThinkProgress
    . In 2006, conservative Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes told Hannity’s Fox News that in a recent meeting with Bush, the president had told him “bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism.” Barnes said Bush told him that capturing bin Laden is “not a top priority use of American resources.”

    There's lots more out there. You just have to want to educate yourself.

    Do you know why Bush said all of that. Because the Bush's and Bin Laden's have been business partners for a long time. If Bush had really tried to get him (remember the wanted dead or alive poster) it would have upset the Bush's money train.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jviehe View Post
    Bin Laden was A priority for Bush.
    As I recall, Bush's first priority was protecting the country.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by darth omar View Post
    That's just it though; taking out bin Laden, post-9/11, wouldn't have changed anything---from a terrorism standpoint. Which is exactly why Bush didn't make him a priority. Now certainly OBL deserved to be taken out and I'm glad he was, but it only matters from a symbolic standpoint.

    We are no safer with bin Laden dead then we were when he was alive.
    The threat is relatively unchanged by him being alive ... but revenge for killing our family members is a priority. I don't consider the mastermind of a plot to kill thousands symbolism and it would not have hurt my feeling if they killed all his family too. Not very Christlike ... more of an eye for an eye.
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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by darth omar View Post
    As I recall, Bush's first priority was protecting the country.
    Yes, that was his FIRST priorty. Are you saying capturing Bin Laden should have been a higher priority than general defense?

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jviehe View Post
    Yes, that was his FIRST priorty. Are you saying capturing Bin Laden should have been a higher priority than general defense?
    Wasn't Bush's First priority making sure that everyone owned a house?
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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by USCitizen View Post
    Wasn't Bush's First priority making sure that everyone owned a house?
    I thought Bush's first priority was tax cuts so business could create jobs.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by wooyarn View Post
    I thought Bush's first priority was tax cuts so business could create jobs.
    Just like Obama, Bush had a multitude of first priorities.
    Keeps one's various constituencies feeling good.
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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by USCitizen View Post
    Just like Obama, Bush had a multitude of first priorities.
    Keeps one's various constituencies feeling good,
    That's true

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Forplay View Post
    Further, when bush was around OBL was on the move. However under Obama, OBL was stationary for years.
    Makes sense.

    When you know that nobody is looking for you it's fine to come and go as you please.

    When you know you're being hunted down like a dog you go to ground in the safest place you can find.

    Fortunately, President Obama had the balls to set the precedent that America's enemies aren't safe anywhere in the world.

    If president Bush had still been in office when we'd found the douchebag, and assuming he had the balls to go after him (he did give A.Q. Kahn a free pass, after all) the SEALs probably would have had ISI agents on a ride-along, the same way the CIA did when they were operating along the border region (which is the only place Musharraf allowed them to go).

    You know like he did when he could not figure out what to do in Afghanistan, should I add troops, should I not.......
    You know that the strategy that ultimately became known as "The Surge" in Iraq was in planning for two years?

    Should I, should I not, should I, should I not..............

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Makes sense.

    When you know that nobody is looking for you it's fine to come and go as you please.

    When you know you're being hunted down like a dog you go to ground in the safest place you can find.

    Fortunately, President Obama had the balls to set the precedent that America's enemies aren't safe anywhere in the world.

    If president Bush had still been in office when we'd found the douchebag, and assuming he had the balls to go after him (he did give A.Q. Kahn a free pass, after all) the SEALs probably would have had ISI agents on a ride-along, the same way the CIA did when they were operating along the border region (which is the only place Musharraf allowed them to go).



    You know that the strategy that ultimately became known as "The Surge" in Iraq was in planning for two years?

    Should I, should I not, should I, should I not..............

    Juz sayin'
    I don't see any reason why Pres. Obama shouldn't get credit for his role in the hunt but to say former Pres. Bush wasn't even looking for him is bat shit crazy.
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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jviehe View Post
    Yes, that was his FIRST priorty. Are you saying capturing Bin Laden should have been a higher priority than general defense?
    I'm saying just the opposite. Killing bin Laden had more to do with justice for 9/11 than defense.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jviehe View Post
    Bin Laden was A priority for Bush.
    True, but not Osama, Bush's priority was taking care of the people who set him up in business and provided all the money for his "career" as an oil man, the Bin Laden family.

    Keeping Osama alive was the least he could do for the people who funded his "career" in the oil business, a career that never made a cent back for any of the investors.
    That's why one of the first things Bush did after taking office, was pull the FBI off of tracing Al Qaeda funds....

    I see loyalty as an admirable trait, usually.....

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by goober View Post
    True, but not Osama, Bush's priority was taking care of the people who set him up in business and provided all the money for his "career" as an oil man, the Bin Laden family.

    Keeping Osama alive was the least he could do for the people who funded his "career" in the oil business, a career that never made a cent back for any of the investors.
    That's why one of the first things Bush did after taking office, was pull the FBI off of tracing Al Qaeda funds....

    I see loyalty as an admirable trait, usually.....
    Interesting conspiracy theory but it's just a bit of a stretch. You really think Bush would have passed on bin Laden, especially given the way his poll numbers tanked in the second half of his second term?

    I don't.

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