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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by darth omar View Post
    Interesting conspiracy theory but it's just a bit of a stretch. You really think Bush would have passed on bin Laden, especially given the way his poll numbers tanked in the second half of his second term?

    I don't.
    I doubt Bush really cared about poll numbers at that time, He was on his way out.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by wooyarn View Post
    I doubt Bush really cared about poll numbers at that time, He was on his way out.
    Then he would be first president in recent memory that didn't care about his legacy.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Makes sense.

    When you know that nobody is looking for you it's fine to come and go as you please.

    When you know you're being hunted down like a dog you go to ground in the safest place you can find.

    Fortunately, President Obama had the balls to set the precedent that America's enemies aren't safe anywhere in the world.
    Obama had the balls, compared to Bush, Obama has no balls. Bush captured and got intel that only Bush could get. Obama never takes a prisoner, he just kills them, so not to be bothered with interrogation or putting them in Clubgetmo.

    If president Bush had still been in office when we'd found the douchebag,
    OBL would be dead and I would say any president would have done the same.

    You know that the strategy that ultimately became known as "The Surge" in Iraq was in planning for two years?

    Should I, should I not, should I, should I not..............

    Juz sayin'
    First I don't know about planning it for two yrs. Planning is one thing that generals and specialists do, time to make a division to implement a plan is another. Obama said the surge would not work so did Biden, so you have two idiots witness the surge working. Now it takes Obama how long to make a decision to use a proven plan or not.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by darth omar View Post
    I'm saying just the opposite. Killing bin Laden had more to do with justice for 9/11 than defense.
    Then what did you mean by "Not making bin Laden a priority was the Bush strategy."

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jviehe View Post
    Then what did you mean by "Not making bin Laden a priority was the Bush strategy."
    When you talk about 'the Bush strategy' you are talking about the 'Bush doctrine', right?

    I don't recall getting bin Laden as being part of it.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Forplay View Post
    Of course the jerk is, he found OBL on the intelligence provided by Bush's policies. Obama takes credit for anyting good, and gives not credit to anyone. And the jerk, blames everyone else for his failures.

    Now this:

    SEALs slam Obama for using them as 'ammunition' in bid to take credit for bin Laden killing during election campaign


    Serving and former US Navy SEALs have slammed President Barack Obama for taking the credit for killing Osama bin Laden and accused him of using Special Forces operators as ‘ammunition’ for his re-election campaign.

    The SEALs spoke out to MailOnline after the Obama campaign released an ad entitled ‘One Chance’.
    In it President Bill Clinton is featured saying that Mr Obama took ‘the harder and the more honourable path’ in ordering that bin Laden be killed. The words ‘Which path would Mitt Romney have taken?’ are then displayed.

    Read more: SEALs slam Obama for using them as 'ammunition' in bid to take credit for bin Laden killing during election campaign | Mail Online
    Seal team 6 is not real happy about all this news media coverage. They have families and do not want them targeted by extremists. I also found it very interesting that Bill Clinton nor G.W. Bush showed up at the ceremony at the memorial with Obama after the Bin Laden hit. They were invited but decided not to show-boat this issue--with their presence.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Forplay View Post
    Obama had the balls, compared to Bush, Obama has no balls. Bush captured and got intel that only Bush could get. Obama never takes a prisoner, he just kills them, so not to be bothered with interrogation or putting them in Clubgetmo.



    OBL would be dead and I would say any president would have done the same.



    First I don't know about planning it for two yrs. Planning is one thing that generals and specialists do, time to make a division to implement a plan is another. Obama said the surge would not work so did Biden, so you have two idiots witness the surge working. Now it takes Obama how long to make a decision to use a proven plan or not.
    Yeah--it's kind of hard for Obama to come back on the surge not working in Iraq, even though he did campaign on that. But a very interesting article came out immediately after the Bin Laden hit--suggesting that Obama hesitated on this hit--and that it was Leon Pannetta that became so frustrated with his indecision that he ordered the attack--with Hillary Clinton--putting a lot of pressure on Panetta to do it.

    Proof Positive: White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden

    We'll know soon--as you know Hillary Clinton will be writing a book about this after she resigns in 2012. What's that old saying--the "scorn" of a woman--and she is going to let loose. Being Secretary of State she's in the perfect position to do the tell all.

    It took 8 months from the date of finding Laden's location until the mission.

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jviehe View Post
    Interesting opinion piece from a CIA vet. Will this get as much coverage as Obamas ad touting it like it was mostly him? That making an obvisou decision was 'gutsy?'

    The path to Osama bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama - The Washington Post
    ahoy Jviehe,

    another laughable and goofy piece by the rightwing Washington Post.

    i eagerly await thar followup op-ed titled, "The path to the end of the cold war didn't start with Reagan".

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

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    ahoy Jviehe,

    another laughable and goofy piece by the rightwing Washington Post.

    i eagerly await thar followup op-ed titled, "The path to the end of the cold war didn't start with Reagan".

    - MeadHallPirate
    The Washington Post is right wing?

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    Re: The path to bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama

    Of course it did not start with Obama! If it had, which in his case he wouldn't have done anything, hence thank Bush and our interrogation techniques that Obama opposes which got out all necessary information! I am an Independent conservative thinker and I can tell you that Obama is no friend of America but a foe. Obama takes office=3500 nukes, Today=1500 nukes with plans to shrink us down to 300 by next year! What does this accomplish? Nothing! Nothing but weakening us and our allues, and strengthening our enemies (NK, Iran, China, Russia)-all are hostile in my arena still!

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