Thread: Before he spiked the ball, Obama made sure his ass was covered...

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Well, I bet the SEALS were happy to get recognition for what they did for america, as a group. And I bet you, that the trigger puller was known and met by Obama. Just not publically.

No you don't know who any of the SEALS are, as they don't go around bragging and patting themselves on the back. Unlike Obama who beats his chest everyday telling us how great he is.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Sir, I am far from perfect, so I will agree with you. Yet I try hard to be honest. And I will not tell a lie intentionally.

I am opinionated as you are, but I like other people, even if we disagree strongly and can never agree on some issues. Yet you and I agree on some things, surely, although they may be few in number.

Blue we do agree on some things, but you should always agree with me on everything.

Originally Posted by Forplay

"Sign my trillion dollar stimulus bill now and unemployment will not go above 8%"
First president in US History to have our debt downgraded
Obama increased the national debt by 6 trillion in just 4 yrs, faster and higher than any president before him

I could go on and on, and no I will not vote for more Obama Failure, my dog could do a better job than you're boy toy that never even ran a lemonade stand. And all his economic failures prove it.

Now you can beat a dead horse all you want, about how great your beloved Obama is, as hard as you might try you'll never sell that monkey to me.

All you have demonstrated is a complete lack of understanding of the economy and politics.

But you do provide us with the laughs....

Originally Posted by Forplay

No you don't know who any of the SEALS are, as they don't go around bragging and patting themselves on the back. Unlike Obama who beats his chest everyday telling us how great he is.

Perhaps not, but you can bet your ass they are real proud of who they are, and what they do,and did in this respect. And I have known a few SEALS, but of course not these SEALS. Being the special unit that they are, SEAL team 6, they don't advertise what they do, for obvious reasons.

And hell yes, Obama was great in making that decision against the advice of his advisors. He showed presidential courage, knowing full well he could have turned out like carter, with that failure in Iran. Most presidents who were running for office again would make sure folks did not forget the decision that he made to send in the military to take out our great and hated enemy. Especially since he has few achievements. This one is a great one, which he can take credit for.

I really believe that some cons, repubs are just worried this might hurt their own party's chances, and have made this spiking the ball into an issue that is a non issue. Just my two cents. You know, just human nature making an appearance, and politics. I think this fabrication is rather weak though. I actually get a few chuckles from it as i watch Fox. Entertaining.

Originally Posted by goober

All you have demonstrated is a complete lack of understanding of the economy and politics.

But you do provide us with the laughs....

You on the economy, borrow and spend, on politics, we're a Democracy, no we're a Republic. Good to know you're on top of things. But you keep us entertained.

But we're a little off topic here, this is about "Before he spiked the ball, Obama made sure his ass was covered"

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Perhaps not, but you can bet your ass they are real proud of who they are, and what they do,and did in this respect. And I have known a few SEALS, but of course not these SEALS. Being the special unit that they are, SEAL team 6, they don't advertise what they do, for obvious reasons.

And hell yes, Obama was great in making that decision against the advice of his advisors. He showed presidential courage, knowing full well he could have turned out like carter, with that failure in Iran. Most presidents who were running for office again would make sure folks did not forget the decision that he made to send in the military to take out our great and hated enemy. Especially since he has few achievements. This one is a great one, which he can take credit for.

I really believe that some cons, repubs are just worried this might hurt their own party's chances, and have made this spiking the ball into an issue that is a non issue. Just my two cents. You know, just human nature making an appearance, and politics. I think this fabrication is rather weak though. I actually get a few chuckles from it as i watch Fox. Entertaining.

I know that's your two cents. But unlike you, Obama spiking the ball, turned people off more so than turning them on. I've showed you video and there is commentary all over the place shouting out and on camera complaining about Obama's spiking the ball BS. He would have gained much more by leaving himself out and only praising the armed forces for a job well done. But no it's all about him, that turns people off. But of course you can't see that.

Originally Posted by Forplay

You on the economy, borrow and spend, on politics, we're a Democracy, no we're a Republic. Good to know you're on top of things. But you keep us entertained.

But we're a little off topic here, this is about "Before he spiked the ball, Obama made sure his ass was covered"

OK, then what in the OP supports the proposition in the thread title, other than the opinion expressed by the poster?

Originally Posted by Forplay

I know that's your two cents. But unlike you, Obama spiking the ball, turned people off more so than turning them on. I've showed you video and there is commentary all over the place shouting out and on camera complaining about Obama's spiking the ball BS. He would have gained much more by leaving himself out and only praising the armed forces for a job well done. But no it's all about him, that turns people off. But of course you can't see that.

Fair enough. I know that has been some hoorah about the so called 'spiking the ball". Yet these things are drummed up, given incessant coverage, seemlingly to try to counteract any positive gain that Obama might garner from reminding one is his accomplishments. That is how I see this entire deal. Hence the nit picking over whether he should have claimed no role, on his part and giving full credit to the military and intel In the real world, this is some real petty stuff here, much ado about nothing. Trashy tabloid stuff IMO that depends upon sensationalizing even the mundane.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Must be great to have the Book of the final authority on how one handles things of this nature. Pakistan cannot be worked with with any degree of certainty involved, they ain't the UK. They are a fragmented nation, and its a roll of the dice with em, and you should know it.

There is no way in hell Pakistani intelligence did not know of OBL location, unless they have no intel at all. Obama was sending a message when he made that statement to Pakistan, letting them know ahead of time exactly what he would do,and once he got the chance, against the advice of his advisors, he signed the OK to let her rip, risking a helluva lot. I admire that. You don't.

Thing is, if we would have known OBL was there and Obama did nothing, you would be on his ass for that!! With many others of your ilk. Pretty transparent in what you say. But who is surprised? Arm chair quarterbacks who's team got their ass whipped.

Why do ideologues always assume people are as irrational as they are?

Giving criticism when due is part of giving credit when due. Pres. Obama deserves kudos for his role in the success of the operation but he also deserves criticism in the areas he screwed up and this was one of them. Your insistence that we cannot work with Pakistan might carry a bit more weight if they weren't a vital ally who we have been working with. Pres. Obama's actions were a political victory for him but cost our intelligence community dearly. That relationship might have been salvaged had he listened to pretty much everyone else including who he choose as his Secretary of State.

Conan's is on ... he just got a tweet from Obama ... "Just wanted to remind you I killed Osama Bin Laden."