It's a trite aphorism that is easier to spout than actually arguing on the subject matter. That's the beauty of talking points - they simultaneously oversimplify, create strawmen, and argue by ad hominem. [irony]Of course, if anyone disagrees with me on this they hate our troops.[/irony]

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Yes, the "cut and run" jingle has run it's course. It is time for "stay the course" to prove it's worth and since "stay the course" has now been abandoned (except by Cheney), then it would be prudent to say that the jingle failed to live up to its name sorta-speak.

I want details now. I want to know how the war is being conducted now and how it is effective and accomplishing its objectives.

We can't simply say that the President has good intentions. My little sister has well intentions to bring peace to the world... well that's great.

We have a President in an office of responsibility and it is not enough to be well intentioned, but to at least produce results.

Bush has not accomplished the task of bringing justice to those responsible for 9/11 and as all can see, it's not really an objective in the Bush Plan.

Ironic that you go to the trouble of quoting that and then go straight into namecalling mode.

Nonono Bush said he's never been stay the course.

Bush's plan is stand and die.

Oh and reap the billions in profits.

"stay the course" is an ambiguous term.

TRhat is, it can have many different meanings depending on context.

But of course stupid people don't understand that fact.

Don't be stupid

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Yes, I do believe the method of operation by Republicans is semantics.

Anyways, what was not confronted was defining Bush's plan and how it is working.

These unanswered questions remain as most endulge in semantics.

The plan seems to be working pretty well.

Look at the goals that have been achieved.

Outstanding.

Noboby could have reasonably expected this level of success.

I think the only real problem is like when the ball snaps and suddenly you break into the opposing teams backfield, smack down their quarterback take the ball and notice you are 3 strides ahead of everyone else on the field heading towards a touchdown.

Shocking? yes

Bad? well maybe if you forgot your touchdown dance.

Didn't expect to be here so quickly but even if the crowd don't like your celebration dance, it's still a touchdown.

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

this war was sold to the US people on a different premise. Remeber the whole greeted with flowers...

The US Army was unprepared for occupation. This was because they expected to go home after the invasion...

This has been a disaster. No one actually expected the US to loose te invasion. Iraq has a better chance at beating the US baseball team.

Higher command(DOD and millitary) in the millitay have let their troops down badly. Unfortunally there has been no accountability in this administration...

I just posted the plan. Its written down, and Bush has given speeches abotu it numerous times, and you can see the plan in action every day. If ytou think he doesnt have a plan, then you have to prove that.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

Yup, I saw it.

A plan is something that works.

He doesn't have a plan and present day Iraq proves that.

I don't think you understand what's being expressed in this thread.

A webpage link hardly answers my post.

Or maybe you oversimplified it so you can brush by unscathed by the reality in Iraq.

Since when is a plan something that work? I plan to go vote today. If I dont, then I didnt have a plan? What kind of sense is that?

I can easily go post what Bush said 4 years ago, and what he has said at every opportunity since then, and then demonstrate the actions taken in regards to that plan. Really, you are just denying reality now. If you want to argue that the plan is bad, or doesnt work, then fine. But to say he doesnt have a plan is plain wrong.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

I agree. However, the Tax Cuts were marginal. We should have bigger, fatter Tax Cuts to do even better, for example.

As far as the War on Terror, Saddam Hussein is soon to be hung but, who is next? Shouldn't we have a plan to take out another Socialist Dictator or two before he leaves office.



So many dictators, so little time and so few plans

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United We Stand.

If you had the ability to think, you might realize what a stupid statement you just made!

I know you have no concept of War, especially Urban War, or you would know Marines don't fight this way! Your buddies the Terrorists kill most Troops with cowardly I.E.D'S and Car bombs, not FIRW FIGHTS little girl, as they would get their chance to meet scumbag Mohammed and his 72 ugly 4th Grade virgins!!

Now your mouth, connected to Move On Hype are the ones saying, WITHOUT A SHRED OF PROOF, that Mr Bush is profiting off this War! That is Un American to say, as he is trying to contain the Terrorists to ONE area, and has had pretty good luck! Beats getting a BJ in the Whitehouse and sleeping with the Red Chinese, like Traitor Billy!!!

There are a few less dictators than there were 6 years ago.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

I am happy to see you agree that once the Democrats regain the House and get to at least 48 in the Senate that Bush' reign will end.

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