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Re: Bush is a great President

You think that Hussein would have a nuke based on what? There was no active program. No materials suitable for bomb making. No real expertise.
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You think that Hussein would have a nuke based on what?
Based on previous activities. and publically released intelligence estimates.
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And the complete lack of the other half of my post?
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If it is positive to be hated around the globe, then yess, Mr Bush is indeed a great President.
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If it is positive to be hated around the globe, then yess, Mr Bush is indeed a great President.
Always nice to have some Euro pop into USpoliticsonline to remind us that they don't like our president.

Most of us don't give a fuck what Europe thinks, in case you are wondering. The fact that you don't like him means he's doing something right, as far as I am concerned.

You just better hope I don't get my way and the U.S. takes all of our defenses out of Europe. Y'all might actually have to spend $ on defense and give up your nanny state programs.
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That's the one huge error i think most folks make, which is that reagan may have been more of an idealist and believed in conservatism as a movement but he was also ultimately unsuccessful in what he set out to achieve (Bork, ammnesty and Beuirut are a few examples of either his failures or bad choices). Bush has won on almost everything barring SS reform and if he chose he could have even got Miers on the bench. Rummy was there for 6 years dammit! Reagan just didn't have the power Bush has and that's with both a GOP and Dem congress. Reagan will not go down as well as Bush will when it comes to history, 100 years down the line Bush will be seen as (at least) one of the 3 greatest presidents.



You're confusing success with degrees and levels of change, things will neverbe the same again. But we'll also never have another FL2000 again and nor will any other President wage wars in 2 seperate nations within the span of 15 months or so. I have always used the "historic proportions" argument, but only as a stop gap until enough time passes to allow his true legacy of glory to be viewed in all its true meaning. For example until then i think he'll most definately hold the record for the largest single (democratic election) popular vote turn out in the history western world.
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You just better hope I don't get my way and the U.S. takes all of our defenses out of Europe. Y'all might actually have to spend $ on defense and give up your nanny state programs.
Yeah, after we pull our troops out, what will West Germany do if the Soviet Union invades?
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Always nice to have some Euro pop into USpoliticsonline to remind us that they don't like our president.

Most of us don't give a fuck what Europe thinks, in case you are wondering. The fact that you don't like him means he's doing something right, as far as I am concerned.

You just better hope I don't get my way and the U.S. takes all of our defenses out of Europe. Y'all might actually have to spend $ on defense and give up your nanny state programs.


Fortunately, despite what he may want to believe, most Americans don't think this way.
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Fortunately, despite what he may want to believe, most Americans don't think this way.
How do you know?
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Because most Americans aren't ignorant, arrogant assholes.
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Because most Americans aren't ignorant, arrogant assholes.
The way he expressed it was arrogant, but I agree with the sentiment that the opinions of Europeans and other foreigners should have no bearing on how American policy is run, nor should we use foreign opinion as a guideline.
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Because most Americans aren't ignorant, arrogant assholes.
I would bet that most Americans don't care very much what Europeans think of us.
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The way he expressed it was arrogant, but I agree with the sentiment that the opinions of Europeans and other foreigners should have no bearing on how American policy is run, nor should we use foreign opinion as a guideline.
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I would bet that most Americans don't care very much what Europeans think of us.
I suspect that most Americans recognize that we cannot last if we walk arround as the arrogant bully like we have. Foreign perception directly impacts us, and I suspect that most Americans recognize that.
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I wonder how Bush would have tackled the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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I suspect that most Americans recognize that we cannot last if we walk arround as the arrogant bully like we have. Foreign perception directly impacts us, and I suspect that most Americans recognize that.
On foreign policy I think we should consult our Constitution, which states that we don't fight undeclared wars like in Iraq, rather than how the Welsh feel about us. The Constitution has more authority than UN mandates or international laws.
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