The US public is going to have bad financial hangover from Bush Jr. Administration spending policies for a lot of years. That and the Iraq folly will be his presidential legacy.

Whatever happens we'll be in Iraq for some time yet; i would say the total number of troops would be at least in 5 figure levels for the whole of the next decade at the very least.

And yes Iraq will be his legacy and it will indeed define him as one of the greatest Presidents of all time. Plus that whole 7 years of brilliant security.

You're a funny guy.

Your original point is hammered into a muddy shit-hole, so now you want to "look at it from another angle"?

Fuck that. Why should we?

How about you admit that, in your original post, you simply didn't know what the fuck you were talking about? How about you admit that the ignorance in your original post is correctly identified?

The fact that you put this thread in "The White House" shows that you have no real interest in discussing either Spitzer or Craig, and prefer, instead, to continue your tired anti-Bush whining?

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You might want to look at the ratings of past presidents tainted by the Vietnam failure.

And the gross fiscal irresponsibility, how will that play for historians who tend to ignore your brand of emotional patriotism when evaluating past presidents?

The task of taking down a president is a on a whole 'nother level than taking down a governor. As was stated earlier, he resigned but that's immaterial because he would've been forced out anyway.

The differencve here is that there is concrete, traceable evidence of crimes having been committed by Spitzer. Yes, those crimes are of a much less serious nature with much less serious consequences than the crimes Bush & Cheney almost certainly committed, but those two have their asses well covered by layer upon layer of fall guys & cronies. The plausible deniability factor is like a giant steel reinforced concrete wall around them.

Plus, the people who oppose those two are thoughtful enough & care enough about America to realize what another impeachment would do to the fabric of the nation & they know they just aren't worth it. They're almost out of office anyway, they've pretty much done all the damage they're gonna do, so it's better to just let them fade away & disappear hopefully never to stick their heads up in public again.

No absolutely not. The fact is, the first post was dead on the fucking money and because you cannot fucking get past that fact that your party has fucked the USA into oblivion you need to resort to idiot arguments and technicalities which are horse shit.

Sex scandals are unacceptable to Americans but as long as you are faithful you can destroy the USA and still remain in office. That is the problem.

There was always McCain. But the conservatives were so paranoid about "black babies" dirtying up the White House that they decided to go with a governor who couldn't find oil in Texas and spent a great deal of his life abusing drugs.

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"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

A great deal of his life...prove it.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

I consider alcohol a drug and he's admitted that he used to be an alcoholic. Do you want me to pull up his confessions?

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

Many Americans consider acute alcoholism and resulting personal failures socially acceptable, a 'mistake', while any other drug deemed illegal by the US government is a 'problem'. Bush's evangelical approach to reality allows his alcoholism to be 'forgiven' while the facade marches on.

I'd like to make one little correction to that statement:

"Sex scandals are unacceptable to CONSERVATIVE Americans but as long as you are faithful (as far as conservative America is concerned) you can destroy the USA and still remain in office. That is the problem."

A bit more accurate & to the point, I think.

.....yet what's interesting is that these sex scandals seem to be far more common among conservatives. It's usually some "family values" moral crusader who gets caught with the underaged male hooker in the bathroom of the strip club.

(and, if not more common, it's far more funny! )

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Yes I want you to prove that Bush has spent "spent a great deal of his life abusing drugs." Define "a great deal", "drugs", and "abuse."

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

The smell of desperation.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

Yes i think the word "failure" is the problem, failing in Iraq would be disasterous but for most of us we're still thinking that winning the war might be the first step...