Bush Heckled During July 4 Speech - Page 4 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

Rakkasan · #46 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by ViolaLee

Seems you were wrong about that too. That's the second time you tried to slam me mistakenly. I suggest you wait till you're sure the next time

When did people heckle Clinton? Remind me and I'll let you know.

I guess will find out if people heckle Obama....hold that thought.

every time clinton went to any military event he was heckled especially the vietnam wall since he dodged that war

and just like him you dodged the question ............ so let me use your pious words against you

if a person feels obama is a terrible president and bad for the country and they heckle him next year will it be their patriotic duty to do it? or since it is now "your president" will it be un acceptable?

additionally i pose to you this question, when obama is president will you still do the RIP threads? or will the point not need to be made anymore?

i think i know the answers to both but would love to see you answer these

Birdzeye · #47 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

I have no doubt at all that, if Obama is elected, the far right wing will deep six its "respect for the office of the presidency" and heckle Obama whenever and wherever they can.

jviehe · #48 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by ViolaLee

Well it's not at the White House, but Monticello.

Bush made his 4th of July speech and citizenship ceremony and he was heckled. But it's not surprising, he has a 23% approval rating, the same as Nixon when he resigned.

Bush should be hiding his head in shame at what he's done to our economy, the national debt, our good name in the world, our credibility in human rights causes, our constitution, our troops, wasting our tax dollars while enriching his oil buddies, lying to the American people.

But he's out there making speeches, making a fool of himself.

YouTube - Bush Heckled During July 4 Speech

Bush has a 34% approval rating, not surprising as 40% of the country is democrat and he has near 0 ratings among them. He has 70% among republicans. Finally when you look inside the numbers, most people disaprove based on things the president has no control over, namely the economy.

http://www.democracycorps.com/wp-con...2508fq6_pb.pdf

jviehe · #49 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Birdzeye

I have no doubt at all that, if Obama is elected, the far right wing will deep six its "respect for the office of the presidency" and heckle Obama whenever and wherever they can.

And I have no doubt that conservatives will think it wrong for them to do so and that we wont post threads cheering them on. Some things should be beyond partisanship.

Birdzeye · #50 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by jviehe

And I have no doubt that conservatives will think it wrong for them to do so and that we wont post threads cheering them on. Some things should be beyond partisanship.

Are you insinuating that it's ONLY conservatives who think it's wrong?

TheStripey1 · #51 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Scribbler1

As for myself, I just think he stinks on ice. He's either a decent, but marginal man who is WAY too easily led by his own subordinates or he's a shill for the political machine and/or a whore for those who paid his way to the WH.

he could very easily be both...

TheStripey1 · #52 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Imperator

BINGO, give that lady a cigar.

Mrs M smokes cigars???

jviehe · #53 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Birdzeye

Are you insinuating that it's ONLY conservatives who think it's wrong?

Nope.

TheStripey1 · #54 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Citizenship ceremonies are a sacred occasion. I cannot imagine heckling at, or otherwise disturbing a citizenship ceremony. New citizens have worked damned hard to get there, and they deserve far better recognition of their efforts than some loudmouth with a sign.

Benjamin

why not? it shows them what they can do... remember, some of them may have been former citizens of countries where they could be killed for protesting.

We have a right to protest here in the United States of America.

TheStripey1 · #55 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by ViolaLee

I guess if ceremonies don't want hecklers, they shouldn't ask Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz or any of the other Iraq war liars to speak....

Or they should screen those they allow in better. Much the way bush has done in the past for any myriad of his speeches and appearances.

TheStripey1 · #56 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Good point. I would NEVER speak at a ceremony if I were POTUS, or any other partisan official for that matter.

Still though, it's no excuse to launch a protest. It looks, and is, juvenile.

Benjamin

no... it's the exercise of one of our freedoms... you know... Free Speech.

TheStripey1 · #57 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by ViolaLee

If I were anywhere Bush was in earshot, I'd yell impeach, or end the war, or something to that effect.

It's my patriotic duty.

Or you could just as easily give him the Royal Canadian Presidential Salute...

Imperator · #58 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by TheStripey1

no... it's the exercise of one of our freedoms... you know... Free Speech.

why sure the free speech to be a boorish jackass....yea !!!!

TheStripey1 · #59 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Rakkasan

1) every time clinton went to any military event he was heckled especially the vietnam wall since he dodged that war

...snip

2) if a person feels obama is a terrible president and bad for the country and they heckle him next year will it be their patriotic duty to do it? or since it is now "your president" will it be un acceptable?

3) additionally i pose to you this question, when obama is president will you still do the RIP threads? or will the point not need to be made anymore?

i think i know the answers to both but would love to see you answer these

raises paw... ok if I answer them?

1) As I recall, Bill Clinton had a student deferment, much the same as Dick Cheney. Since you deride Clinton for dodging the war, do you also deride Cheney?

2) IF Obama is as bad as bush is, hell yes, I'd heckle him because he would deserve it...

3) IMO... As long as there are men and women being killed in bush's war on Iraq, the RIP threads should continue.

TheStripey1 · #60 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Birdzeye

I have no doubt at all that, if Obama is elected, the far right wing will deep six its "respect for the office of the presidency" and heckle Obama whenever and wherever they can.

true... and I bet they begin as soon as he takes office, without even waiting to see if he does anything nearly as bad to the country as bush hath wrought...

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