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Re: Obama & Europe
I'm sure a lot of Europeans knew the damage they were doing to Kerry when they backed him so vermently, but maybe they just secretly wanted Bush to win?
![]() Btw you think it couldn't get worse than it is...wait a few months into an Obama or McCain administration and then see how bad it can get. |
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Re: Obama & Europe
There was not that much enthusiasm for Kerry..
I am pretty sure a McCain administration will be doing some more damage on America's reputation (concerning foreign policy) and if Obama really stands for change (it's really hard to predict what concrete actions he will acually take), there is at least hope.. |
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Re: Obama & Europe
Considering Obama, best case scenario is he really does stand for change, worst case scenario he's just a really good politician. Either way, aside from concentrating on Iraq because Americans care right now, Obama is likely to let the United Nations handle worldly things while concentrating himself on domestic policy, as democrats tend to do, and Europe ought to be good.
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Re: Obama & Europe
Well there's no doubt he really does believe in change, he's changed his position on issues quite a lot in the last month or so and the more he has changed his stance the more hope there actually is...
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Re: Obama & Europe
Why?? Do you plan anything, 'cause your favourite won't be in office anymore??
Come one that's ridiculous, no matter whom America electes, nothing dramatic will ever change, especially when it comes to foreign policy.
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Re: Obama & Europe
Are you kidding? You in Germany have more of our troops than most and we just opened a huge new base and part to our embassy that i recently visited...and neither candidate seems to want to have defense based security (military protection round the embassy, nuclear shields over the base etc) which is horrible. Not to mention neither seem keen to put a shield over Eastern Europe and with Iran even more likely to get a nuke, well its your life at the end of the day...
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Re: Obama & Europe
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I call Obama "Shower Shoes" now because he has worn out his flip flops. ![]()
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It was the same for Carter and Clinton (enthusiasm) but those guys did have executive experience to draw from though they were both fairly standard liberal democrats. I would not assume that BHO couldn't be worse than the current administration. As to relevance, how significant is the popular US view of your leader ? I'd guess its about as relevant.
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Re: Obama & Europe
Now, Obama will hold a speech in Berlin and here in Europe people seem to associate many positive things with Obama. Obama is just a politician. So you should be more careful in trusting him. But he can't be worse than the current administration. He likes change in everything, everyone believes he would do the same thing in the politics too rather than concentrating on the iraqs issue.
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