bingo!

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The father was here on a student visa.

The mother was a US citizen.

The child was born in the USA.

The child is a ‘natural born citizen’ in the sense that the child obtained citizenship at birth.

Why is it that the only two people who are still questioning Obama’s eligibility are posting here?

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I always find it strange that only reasonable people agree with me.

We're just incredibly lucky, I guess.

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Just heard an audio clip from a couple of years ago where Michelle Obama is speaking, "some years ago when Barrack and I went to his home country of Kenya, we ......"

'Course, what does she know, right? What does "home country" mean to some of the giant "intellects" here? This pig is a disaster for America and he probably wasn't even born here. The real shame is the mindlessness that has allowed a scumbag like this to rise to power for one reason, he's black.

You're so right.

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Democrats are sexy. Who ever heard of a nice piece of elephant?

Why Cari!! You must have missed me!!

Quite incorrect. It's because he hates whites and wants us all in concentration camps.

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[/QUOTE]Could you explain the reasoning you used to come to the conclusion that being granted citizenship at birth via statutory law automatically means that you are a "natural born Citizen" of the US.

I've told you where the term comes from as it was used in ther US Constitution. It comes straight from Vattel's "Law of Nations".

Where the fuck did you get your definition of the term "natural born citizen"!!!!!!!!??????????

Can you provide any definition of the term "natural born citizen" from the late 18th century when the US constitution was adopted other than that provided Vattel's treatise on natural law (Law of Nations) ???

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Yep, glad my daily dose of patriotic T&A is back.

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It's a small world, unless you gotta walk home.

Democrats are sexy. Who ever heard of a nice piece of elephant?

Could you explain the reasoning you used to come to the conclusion that being granted citizenship at birth via statutory law automatically means that you are a "natural born Citizen" of the US.

I've told you where the term comes from as it was used in ther US Constitution. It comes straight from Vattel's "Law of Nations".

Where the fuck did you get your definition of the term "natural born citizen"!!!!!!!!??????????

Can you provide any definition of the term "natural born citizen" from the late 18th century when the US constitution was adopted other than that provided Vattel's treatise on natural law (Law of Nations) ???[/QUOTE]

What's fascinating is how nimbly you've dodged the other POTUS from history that weren't citizens at the time of the adoption of the constitution, and who had a parent born outside the USA.

Why can't you address those?

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Noli arrogantium iniurias pati

Yawn. More of the same, blathering nonsense. Do you even understand what the "Law of Nations" is? It's a book about natural law, and was a philosophical work.

De Vattel was an important thinker and influence, but one cannot assume that the framers agreed with him on citizenship, since their legal tradition was completely at odds with de Vattel’s view. Lacking any support whatsoever from the 18th century that fatherhood outweighs all else, there is no basis for concluding that Vattel’s understanding is the same as the intent of the Constitution.

But you go ahead and keeping thinking that, Sport.

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Yay!!!!!!!!

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Howso?

"At odds" in what way? Could you elaborate rather than just making unsupported and unreasoned assertions?

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Unreasoned? You clearly wouldn't know reason if it were handed to you on a plate, so what would be the point.

Perhaps if you actually knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't need any further explanation.

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