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| View Poll Results: Is Obama a natural born citizen or is he a natural born subject. | |||
| He is a "natural born citizen" |
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28 | 58.33% |
| He is a "natural born subject" |
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6 | 12.50% |
| He is neither |
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11 | 22.92% |
| He is both |
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3 | 6.25% |
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Re: Expert states obama birth certificate counterfeit:
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See... Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor It is silly to debate something which can be settled so easily. Obama needs to address the many lawsuits recently filed and produce his original birth certificate. Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections; Lawsuits are being filed in Eight States Seeking to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S. or Be Removed as Presidential Candidate on State Ballots. Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertifying of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama. THIS SITE CLAIMS THE COPY OF THE ORIGINAL IS LEGIT.... FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: I don't understand how this can even be an issue after the election. It all should have been settled before Obama was even announced as a candidate. It is ridiculous that Obama will not simply prove he is a natural born citizen of the USA. Is this too much to ask of a president elect, to prove he is eligible to be president? RELEASE ALL THE RECORDS. DUH. Settle this once and for all. Medical records are the only ones that I would consider private for a presidential canddidate, IMO. Some people disagree and belive even medical records should be released. What I think would be interesting though, is to discuss what would happen in Obama was not found to be eligible. What would we do? Have a new election? Would Bush stay president until we did it all over again? Would we allow McCain to become president since he was 2nd place? lol, it sure would be interesting. |
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I will settle for the 2nd most expensive beer, at only 100 dollars a bottle. ![]() Although I doubt it is better than a Great Lakes Dortmunder, or even a Guiness, I really like the bottle. |
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This only raises further question though. Like why is it only now we are recieving this evidence? Most presidential candidates submit their birth certificates at the onset to avoid this kind of scrutiny. I know some people won't be satisfied until they have Obama's social security card in their hands so that the texture and feel can be authenticated.
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No matter what type of brew you like, the fresher it is, the better. If they took the time to put it into a fancy copper container and charge $100 per bottle, chances are it's not super fresh.... Expensive red wine, expensive tequila, expensive cognac, or expensive scotch is worth it because they all age with purpose.......the same methodology does not apply to beer. If you're going to spend hundreds on a beer, why not go to Dublin and get a freshly made pint at the Guinness brewery? Nothing better than that IMO.
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I can see why he won't release his records. It's because he pretty much already has and the naysayers STILL won't accept that so what makes anyone think they won't just call the "vault" copy a fake too? After all, the fakery they're already proposing involves the entire govt of the US, BOTH parties top commands, most of the major news orgs etc etc etc what the hell, you're saying it's hard to add a few more "vault" attendants (or whatever the title really is) to the list of apparently every liberal and most conservatives in America? Now OTOH there's nothing I love better than watching Republicans make fools of themselves but Jesus GOD this is SO silly. Meritocrats saying Obama's going to send all the whites to internment camps has more basis, at least there IS a FEMA.
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According to the LA Times they were offered 232 million, but the deal didn't go through. That's a lot of money. |
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Obama isn't Vice-President, he's the Vice-President elect. That's a huge distinction. The ascension of the Vice President to thPresidency is well covered in the Constitution. The ascension of the Vice-President Elect is not. If (and I stress that I believe it's a huge "if") Obama were to be found ineligible, prior to his assuming the office, then the office would have to go to the person who got the next highest number of votes for President, which would be McCain. In theory, I think Dennis Kucinich would stand a better chance of getting the office than Biden (assuming some people wrote Kucinich in). The kicker here is that I think Biden would still be the Vice-President Elect, at least until he either pulled out or was replaced by McCain. This is, of course, all speculation, as nothing like this has ever happened before, and I think it could be the very definition of a Constitutional crisis if it did happen...
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