It saves time and embarrassment for those who are illinformed.

Refuting the quasi refuters (other than myself) via answering my own posts does'nt obligate anyone to a response.

Those who tell us it has all been settled must be in another dimension. The issue is very much on the table and actually expanding.

Sure...the opposition wishes to liken the "where is the BC" crowd to manic behaviour, as tho they are overlooking all the outstanding "proofs." But to date there are no proofs...just claims such as the Hawaiian hospital where no records relative to the birth of O are to be found. Strike one.

No Long Form BC to be seen. Strike two.

School records sealed..can't see them. Strike three

So, okay...we'll give him another rip:

Grandmother testified he was born in Kenya. Lying? Star Dust Fever?

Either way...no proof of birth in Hawaii. The O Team keep flashing the COLB on the tube...they don't tell you the rest of the story. O had nothing to do with it UNLESS the COLB is indeed a forgery as some insists. If his mother obtained the COLB O is off the hook as far as being complicit in fraud. But he would still face the eligibility problem. Alien born...unnaturalized...that would mean he is NOT an American citizen.

Never happen you say!?

And why not? Would not the office of the US President be a prize? His silence only qickens the pulse of the "heresy hunters."

O...come clean, produce the Long Form BC and let's put this one to bed.

Yeah, deny reality

Someone is

Pass the dooby man

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Oh no. It's all settled

Really, it is.

Just like Global warming

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Except that the grandmother never said Obama was born in Kenya.
Here's a transcript and the actual recording
Sarah Obama Speaks! | Obama Conspiracy Theories

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One source for the Obama team posts the "authentic" transcript while many other sources say just the opposite. The source you posted can be construed as inconclusive as Berg's story. In court both evidential exhibits could be ruled as, "hearsay." Who has the signature of Sarah on a document? She said, I said and the argument from that point of view goes on in ad finitum. Like the COLB document, that transcript is not conclusive.

The conclusive evidence is the Long Form BC of which if we heard a supporter on Lou Dobbs correctly, was destroyed. Was he speaking of the COLB (which does NOT prove place of birth) or the authentic Long Form BC? If he contends the Long Form was destroyed while records were being converted to electronic bits then any future cry for the Long Form is futile. If he was saying the electronic "original" was destroyed (very convenient) they have conned the public with a story as suspect as the COLB tale.

And, for their side to create this story, is actually a stroke of creativeness IF the people buy it. So we'll leave that for now and talk about the school records...or even the "original" COLB which apparently was not destroyed if the HHD is not lying. They testified they have it..."it" being the original COLB. So let's see that document. Obama should release it to shut the mouth of Rush and Dobbs and others. He needs to put this to rest because he has only begun to feel the wrath of the public and that of his own party. He will need an ace in the hole very, very soon.

For the Obama team and media supporters to contend it is all settled, they are projecting their political desires...not the real world and the real world always wins out in the end.

Rather than being repetitive I'll just say, "to date, Obama has not produced a single document that would conclusively prove he is eligible for the office he holds, and...his very citizenship is suspect. He is not transparent but deceptive and obstructive. He has not been forthright and, if I am not mistaken, will continue to be until he is out of the office he holds.

Bob Bauer will be his advocate as the captain of the Obama legal team to squash any attempt to open the records for the American people. The stonewalling technique has its limitations. At some point, even the Democrats will awaken to the real world as they are now doing relative to the bogus Health Care Bill. Even the right minded Democrats decry Big Brother politics. Obama is to go down in flames. He revealed too much too soon, a lack of patience, characteristic of young men. Obama will begin to fade now in the polls. He has shot his wad too soon. The expose' is just over the horizon."

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I would rather die than lose my freedoms as a man under the American Constitution as penned by the founders of this nation. I fear a very large portion of the American people have compromised their future with this apathetic attitude concerning Obama and the BC question. The courts have been remiss in their rulings. But that will not stop those who want the truth and rightly contend the COLB does NOT prove nation of birth.

Obama's grandmother 'testified'? Where? In what court of law? Was she under oath?

Swing, and a miss.

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To "testify" and to "testify under oath" are two different issues. I made no mention of a court room experence but I did say 'where is the signed document to that effect?' Neither the apologist for Obama has it and neither does Berg. I explained: it probably would have not been admissible in an American court of law. That is why other documents must be permitted to be examined as well as all other records being available for review.

To date Obama has not produced a single conclusive document to warrant the view he is eligible for the office of President.

A hit...right into center field over the head of the opposition.

The cry:

"Where is the BC?"

Will continue

Perhaps, but your use of the word 'testify' is quite telling, as cognitively it usually caries more weight, implies greater veracity, than just, for example, "she said".

This brings, in my opinion, your motives into question. Not that the rest of your material isn't equally as nonsensical and transparent, but 'testify' reeks of desperation on your part.

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My motive is to see Obama come clean...produce the long form BC. Prove his citizenship to the American people. His word is not good enough.

If your cognition warrants a court room scene, so be it. But that is not the entirety of the matter. Grandma "tesified" that O was born in Kenya. She was not under oath nor did she sign a document to that effect, therefore, it is hearsay.

The remainder of my material asks the very pointed and necessary question:

WHERE IS THE BC?

Why are the other records sealed?

Why did Grandma say O was born in Kenya?

Why did two half brothers say the very same?

Why is the Obama team stonewalling the issue?

There has not been a single...note, not a single document presented thus far which will absolutely validate Obama's eligibility. He is hiding in the dark...or rather attempting to keep the American people in the dark. Bob Bauer has his hands full with threats and sleight of hand legal options to keep the records sealed. The reason for this obstruction is, Obama has sometheing to hide.

Tho it is not germane to this issue per se, it is now known that Obama had 17 unpaid parking tickets at Cambridge generated years ago and only paid off a few months before his campaign for President.

What is transparent in this issue is that it is NOT transparent and Obama is the man with the can of black out paint.

He is a man who has spoken foolishly in regard to the Gates affair. He did himself no service by such comments and they cannot be recalled. He has affirmed what many already knew...he (and his wife) are still miffed by the African-American vs. white issue. Obama cannot have sat under Wright for 20 years and not having been influenced to some degree...even by osmosis.

When the BC issue is honestly addressed, the records unsealed, the paper trail examined and the eligibility issue fully vetted will the Obama supporters have a case. For now they are playing mere word games, to either, disinterest honest inquiry, label the opposition as space cases or shame people for not taking Obama at his word. That might work for children but for those who know how the game is played know, it won't work. CNN can rant all they want about the issue being dead...as tho it is because they say it is. The real world dispells that claim. It is very much alive and is growing, even among some of the Democrats.

Remember what Yogi said:

"...it ain't over 'till it's over."

It ain't over yet.

See here is where a rational person looks at the evidence.

You want to discredit a transcript, and the recording of a phone call.

Provide an alternative recording, and an alternative transcript.

This transcript and recording is being provided by the person who actually made the call. All you have to refute it is that someone (Berg), has claimed that the transcript said something else. So where is Berg's version of the transcript?

On the "Obama was born in Hawaii" side, we have an official document from the State of Hawaii, and a recording of his grandmother saying he was born in Hawaii.

On the "I'm so fucking stupid, I still think he was born in Kenya" side, we have the assertion that official documents are meaningless, and that they are sure the grandmother said something different, because they read on the internet that she said something different.

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"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Interesting isn't it ?


The American sheeple are letting el presidente elevate himself far above the application of laws that the rest of us have to follow.


And they don't seem to see anything wrong with this.


Very interesting.


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Passport seeker has no sympathy for Obama


Juan A. de Hoyos, a naturalized U.S. citizen living in Texas, wanted to cross the Rio Grande to see some family members.

On June 1, it became mandatory to have a passport to travel to Mexico. When he submitted his application, he included the only document he had that resembled the required birth certificate – a Texas birth card or birth abstract, a document he describes as looking "almost identical to the one President Obama posted on that website."

But while that certification of live birth was enough to qualify Obama for the White House, de Hoyos can't believe the only birth document he has won't qualify him to get a U.S. passport.

This doesn't sit well with de Hoyos – and many other Americans in similar situations being forced to produce exactly the right paperwork for routine matters while they see the president getting a pass on a constitutional requirement to be eligible for the highest office in the land.

"I merely want to be able to cross a bridge to go see my family, and I am being told that my 'abstract of birth' is not sufficient," said de Hoyos. "Barack Obama has asked the American people to accept this same type of document to become the leader of the free world!"



.................... read the rest - not that many of us care.


Passport seeker has no sympathy for Obama

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Did you read what you linked to?

from the article you linked to:
and then it shows the Obama certification of live birth, which includes things like "Hour of Birth 7:42 PM " and "Location of Birth HONOLULU"

Gosh, maybe in their haste to get the article published they didn't have time to proofread it? Ya think.............

What they didn't do in that article was examine why the Texas Birth Abstract was actually rejected. because if they had it would have taken away from their efforts to bend weak minds to their bidding.

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Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Holy crap, I'm on the same side as Ann Coulter?

YouTube - Ann Coulter: "Obama Birthers" Are Wrong

The acclaimed intellectual and journalist Geraldo says Lou Dobbs is a dope. Okay...

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