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View Poll Results: Is Obama a natural born citizen or is he a natural born subject.
He is a "natural born citizen" 37 63.79%
He is a "natural born subject" 6 10.34%
He is neither 12 20.69%
He is both 3 5.17%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-21-2008
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Is Obama Eligible for POTUS? (mergers)

Alright, I'm a liberal, I voted for the man, but I want to know right now, do you fit the only two qualifications to be president of the United States. If Obama can be POTUS he must only pass two obsticals. First, he must be 35 years of Age, I see no disagreement with this, second, he must be a naturally born citizen of the United States. Now, I voted for Obama, I thought these were dealt with, but the longer this goes, and he cannot produce a Birth Cirtification, the more I become wary.

If the man who claims President-elect, who I did vote for, cannot produce his birth cirtificate, I pledge to the right wingers I disagree with on a daily here, I will support the drive to get him removed from ursurping the office if he has no legal claim to it.

I ask all supporting evidence contrary to his legitamcy as a POTUS to be placed here, and I hope on a personal level he can produce the fact he is a legititmate candidate for POTUS, if not, GOD have mercy on his soul for what will come.

Edit: I have begged a couple mods to correct the spelling the title, I wrote this quick on the fly after coming home from the bar, I do hope one of them will correct the title, I see no reason to leave it misspelled as it is, simply due to the fact I am drunk and Am used to seeing that red underline.

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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constatutionaly legitamate?

He can produce it if he chooses to.

He may not have one in his possession but he can obtain one from Hawaii.

What calls this into question are a couple statements from people who claim to know that he was born in Kenya.

There are other things that call into question the nature of the certificate of live birth that he has provided but that, in and of itself, would not raise much concern at least to me.
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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constatutionaly legitamate?

See though Daddio, for me, I can't imagine it would be difficult to produce your birth cirtificate, granted, I could always ask my mom for it, she keeps one just to see my footprints as an infant, but I still feel, the longer this goes on, it draws legitamcy to the argument he is not "qualified" to be POTUS. As a liberal who voted for him I expect him to produce the paper work at this time. It is not an undu burden, and given what I have seen posted here, he should just to put this to rest. And if he cannot, he is not "qualified" to be POTUS, pure and simple. And it wold be hard for anyone to claim I am a right wing crackpock to ask for this simple confirmation.
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Re: Is Obama Constatutionaly legitamate?

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See though Daddio, for me, I can't imagine it would be difficult to produce your birth cirtificate, granted, I could always ask my mom for it, she keeps one just to see my footprints as an infant, but I still feel, the longer this goes on, it draws legitamcy to the argument he is not "qualified" to be POTUS. As a liberal who voted for him I expect him to produce the paper work at this time. It is not an undu burden, and given what I have seen posted here, he should just to put this to rest. And if he cannot, he is not "qualified" to be POTUS, pure and simple. And it wold be hard for anyone to claim I am a right wing crackpock to ask for this simple confirmation.




I don't see any reason for him to not do this either.
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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

Thread title corrected.

Oh, and...

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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

Then try putting the bottle down and someone may take one of your posts seriously!
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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

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Then try putting the bottle down and someone may take one of your posts seriously!
No, no no, that simply wol't do, at least not at 6 in the morning on My saturday

Though I still hold, that given the posts I've seen here on the topic it needs to be adressed, bluntly and in the open. And thank you Speakeasy for correcting my mispelled Consatutional spelling with the proper Constitutional in the title.
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?



I meant him!
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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

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No, no no, that simply wol't do, at least not at 6 in the morning on My saturday

Though I still hold, that given the posts I've seen here on the topic it needs to be adressed, bluntly and in the open.
sounds like it alread has, buddy, what are you Sean Hannity's son or something?
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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

We can only hope this relevant and burning issue can be put to rest by the inaugaration, in spite of the fact that it has already been addressed ad nauseum.
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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constatutionaly legitamate?

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Yeah, I figured as much, you really think it's necessary to create a new thread with a correctly spelled title? Seriously I'm pretty trashed right now, but I can respell it, but that's not what this is about, though yes, if a mod does not correct the title, I will respell it, because I know that no matter what is posted here, this will be a ligitimate argument, regardless of the lack of pertinate logic behind it.
You were sober enough to change your avatar to be fitting to your current condition. Well done! And, it's 6:30 AM in Oregon now. You either start very early or are still working on last night.

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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

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Thread title corrected.
Not quite...."legitimate"...
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

Ooooohhh....i wish i could have been the one to spot that! (I'll get you yet for the Texas swipe Speakeasy...)
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

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Not quite...."legitimate"...
LOL, thread title correction corrected.
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Old 11-21-2008
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Re: Is Obama Constitutionally legitamate?

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Thread title corrected.

Oh, and...

Whatever. You know you just made that up in photoshop. I'm not going to believe he is legit until I can go down to my local courthouse and get a certified copy to see for my own self and maybe that won't be good enough perhaps I should ask to speak directly with the dr. that delivered him. Yeah, that's it...the dr. that delivered him needs to make an official statement to be broadcasted...oh wait, but then do we trust the liberal media? I smell a konspiracy

Seriously though, I do think he is legit. Even if he was born in Kenya, he has an American mother and that's good enough for me regardless if the proper paperwork was filed. If illegals can spit kids out and they are considered citizens then why the hell not...at least we know one of his parents wasn't illegal.

All of this does raise a few questions...what if he's not legit? What happens to the election results? Do we get to vote again? Does McCain win by default? He already conceded...does that make a difference? Will GWB be in office until the mess is straightened out? Will the Supreme Court get to pick our next president? Is it the same as being impeached and Biden would step up? How the hell does this work? Will it lead to some modifications on the 14the amendment?
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