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Old 01-11-2009
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Re: Dr. Gupta, I Presume!

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In terms of the Ph. D., I already recanted that requirement, saying that any kind of original work or research, with or without a Ph. D. is a requirement to be considered a true doctor. But the original work is a hard requirement. If one doesn't have it, he/she cannot be called a doctor.

PROOF!!!! Have you got a clue as to how stupid you sound? If you can't produce the proof, then all you are doing is talking out of your ass and proving that you have an aversion to the truth.
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Anyone of average intelligence can get a college degree in pretty much anything if they just keep showing up for class.
Very true.
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Re: Dr. Gupta, I Presume!

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PROOF!!!! Have you got a clue as to how stupid you sound? If you can't produce the proof, then all you are doing is talking out of your ass and proving that you have an aversion to the truth.
I think solletica is playing a game of semantics here. When I was in college, I had a professor say that the only real DOCTORS where the PhDs. The MDs are merely physicians.
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Re: Dr. Gupta, I Presume!

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No, I never said that. That you would even as such a question shows the desperation behind your statments.

That link does nothing to support what you've stated.

Neither is it expected of doctors, other than by you.
Original thinking not required of doctors? Great, in that case, computers can diagnose everything based on test results and we can eliminate physicians.

Thanks for pointing that out.
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Very true.
And Mrs. M will prove the point by showing us how many university degrees she has (which is probably less than the no. symbols she posts)
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And Mrs. M will prove the point by showing us how many university degrees she has (which is probably less than the no. symbols she posts)
Unlike you, I don't base my self-worth on degrees. Being a mother and grandmother means far more to me than anything a university can offer. BTW, I quit nursing because my family life was more important.
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Re: Dr. Gupta, I Presume!

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Original thinking not required of doctors? Great, in that case, computers can diagnose everything based on test results and we can eliminate physicians.

Thanks for pointing that out.
I see you are still unable to actually support your points or answer the questions I posed.

Why am I not surprised?
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I think solletica is playing a game of semantics here. When I was in college, I had a professor say that the only real DOCTORS where the PhDs. The MDs are merely physicians.
In order to do a job, you must have the (relevant) experience to do it.

Being a specialist requires, among other things, identifying the nature of a person's affliction based on limited information, with the answer (to the specific case) seldom being nicely written down in any textbook. Someone who's done original research has that experience.

Someone who hasn't doesn't. No relevant experience->can't do the job, regardless of any legal authorization. Logic 101.
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I see you are still unable to actually support your points or answer the questions I posed.

Why am I not surprised?
I just proved the point.. To justify their existence, doctors must exhibit original thinking. Because if they didn't, then they could be replaced with computers, since computers can be programmed to do anything that doesn't require original thinking.
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Unlike you, I don't base my self-worth on degrees. Being a mother and grandmother means far more to me
almost all of those who became well-published physicians are/were also fathers/mothers and grandfathers/grandmothers.

So the whole notion that one has to sacrifice contributing to science to raise a family is pretty much blown out the water, isn't it?
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almost all of those who became well-published physicians are/were also fathers/mothers and grandfathers/grandmothers.

So the whole notion that one has to sacrifice contributing to science to raise a family is pretty much blown out the water, isn't it?
Plenty of people have a career and a family and that's fine for them. I didn't have to work so I chose to give up the career and be a full-time wife and mother which I found extremely rewarding.
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Re: Dr. Gupta, I Presume!

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Plenty of people have a career and a family and that's fine for them. I didn't have to work so I chose to give up the career and be a full-time wife and mother which I found extremely rewarding.
You don't have to prove a thing about your choice, especially to those who are so tactless as to insinuate anything about your choice.
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Re: Dr. Gupta, I Presume!

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My Presidential voting record (as opposed to yours and Mrs. M's) pretty much suffices as a permit in this forum

I could bring up my college degree, but that would be overkill.
What's funny is that you act like you're the only person here to have a college degree.

I'm pretty sure a number of us have them...
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Re: Dr. Gupta, I Presume!

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I just proved the point.. To justify their existence, doctors must exhibit original thinking. Because if they didn't, then they could be replaced with computers, since computers can be programmed to do anything that doesn't require original thinking.
No, not in the least. According to you, there this near DefCom Level 4 threat in this country of incompetence due to the number of MD w/out PhDs.

Ok, so where are the MD who are getting or have these PhDs, and where are they coming from?

You can't answer because it dismantles your original premise.

This shouldn't really surprise you, since it clearly happens all the time.
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Re: Dr. Gupta, I Presume!

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I just proved the point.. To justify their existence, doctors must exhibit original thinking. Because if they didn't, then they could be replaced with computers, since computers can be programmed to do anything that doesn't require original thinking.
And, once again you demonstrate your complete inability to understand the most basic components of the practice of medicine and how they differ from the practice of medical research.



Just out of curiosity, do you actively seek out ways to make yourself look silly, or is this just by random chance?
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