Originally Posted by picaro

The solution is actually a lot simpler than all that, but there is a lack of will to do what is really necessary to deal with terrorist cretins; it is actually much easier politically to get millions killed and drag it all out for decades rather than just do the most direct and effective tactics, which is to use their own methods against them.

None of these groups are 'independents', just loose cannons running around. They are all government sponsored and sheltered , usually by more than one government. Once you start extracting a price from these governments, in blood and treasure, these groups disappear, virtually overnight. Their former sponsors will hunt them down.

Originally Posted by chassisman

As Obama requests billions more to fight a war in Afghanistan, where are all the war is evil for lunch bunch? What happened to Cindy Sheehan? Is she ( and all the other pre Obama war protesters) OK with GI's dying as long as it's in Afghanistan and not Iraq? Where is all the tallying on how much is being spent per day, month, year, etc? I find it simply amazing that the left has obviously just chugged down a huge steaming cup of STFUAboutWar
Time will tell what the better plan was, drawing terrorist insurgents into Iraq where they could be eliminated in a somewhat simple fashion, or having a brand new Vietnam where the tunnels and VC networks are now Paki mountain villages and Afghan caves. America will tire of the Afghan war as it will be long and probably somewhat futile.

Originally Posted by chassisman

So all the al-q and other insurgents that showed up in Iraq were not the enemies of America. Go figger..............

Originally Posted by picaro

The solution is actually a lot simpler than all that, but there is a lack of will to do what is really necessary to deal with terrorist cretins; it is actually much easier politically to get millions killed and drag it all out for decades rather than just do the most direct and effective tactics, which is to use their own methods against them.

None of these groups are 'independents', just loose cannons running around. They are all government sponsored and sheltered , usually by more than one government. Once you start extracting a price from these governments, in blood and treasure, these groups disappear, virtually overnight. Their former sponsors will hunt them down.