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Old 04-27-2009
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Post Air Force One NYC Fly-over

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BBC NEWS | Americas | Low-level flight panics New York

Okay! I dunno if anyone has seen or read about this but I personally find this distasteful, inconsiderate, insensitive, a waste of tax-payer money and resources and just plain stupid. What the hell were these people thinking flying so low just for a photo op? Are they really that brainless and/or heartless to come up with an idea such as this? I personally think heads need to roll and the people behind this need to lose their jobs. You just don't do this sort of thing around people that were personally in NYC at the time of the 9/11 attacks.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 04-27-2009
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

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BBC NEWS | Americas | Low-level flight panics New York

Okay! I dunno if anyone has seen or read about this but I personally find this distasteful, inconsiderate, insensitive, a waste of tax-payer money and resources and just plain stupid. What the hell were these people thinking flying so low just for a photo op? Are they really that brainless and/or heartless to come up with an idea such as this? I personally think heads need to roll and the people behind this need to lose their jobs. You just don't do this sort of thing around people that were personally in NYC at the time of the 9/11 attacks.

What are your thoughts?
The office workers should stop shitting themselves. It's been almost 8 years, FFS! Still a waste of money, though.
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Old 04-27-2009
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

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Mods! If this is in the wrong section I apologize and ask that this be moved to the proper section.

BBC NEWS | Americas | Low-level flight panics New York

Okay! I dunno if anyone has seen or read about this but I personally find this distasteful, inconsiderate, insensitive, a waste of tax-payer money and resources and just plain stupid. What the hell were these people thinking flying so low just for a photo op? Are they really that brainless and/or heartless to come up with an idea such as this? I personally think heads need to roll and the people behind this need to lose their jobs. You just don't do this sort of thing around people that were personally in NYC at the time of the 9/11 attacks.

What are your thoughts?


yes, they really are that stupid
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The office workers should stop shitting themselves. It's been almost 8 years, FFS! Still a waste of money, though.
I don't know about you but I think their hysteria is justified! The problem I see is that no matter how it's spun, it was wrong of these people to do this. I just don't see why it was even thought up in the first place.
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

What, is there no room in the "stimulus" to get Obama a copy of Photoshop?

I don't like Bloombergs politics, but if more politicians would talk like this, the country would be better off...

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The good news is it was nothing more than an inconsiderate, badly conceived and insensitive photo op with the taxpayers' money,"
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

I guess the last time this was done, it was done over Mount Rushmore. Apparently this sort of thing is not uncommon.

I imagine the fear among the chain of command was a security fear: make a huge announcement and it will tip off any baddies out to do us harm; don't make an announcement and rile up the citizens of NY for a day or two.

It seems like they should have just made a real big announcement of it, and done it above the Chicago skyline, since that would have been a lot more fitting.
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The office workers should stop shitting themselves. It's been almost 8 years, FFS! Still a waste of money, though.
But the govt and media spend a lot of time and money instilling fear and the "terror threat" into citizens lives. Remember, there's no profit in peace.
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What, is there no room in the "stimulus" to get Obama a copy of Photoshop?

I don't like Bloombergs politics, but if more politicians would talk like this, the country would be better off...
I don't know anything about "Bloomberg Politics" but in this case, I'm gonna have to agree with him.

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I guess the last time this was done, it was done over Mount Rushmore. Apparently this sort of thing is not uncommon.

I imagine the fear among the chain of command was a security fear: make a huge announcement and it will tip off any baddies out to do us harm; don't make an announcement and rile up the citizens of NY for a day or two.

It seems like they should have just made a real big announcement of it, and done it above the Chicago skyline, since that would have been a lot more fitting.
Nah! They should have just not done it at all. Not so much as a photo shop! It's this kind of thing that sets America up for attack. Put it this way, if the pic found itself in the wrong hands, you know someone would use it as a scare tactic to get Americans scared all over again.
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

Seems like a pretty boneheaded move. And, I really don't like the whole idea of taxpayer funded photo-ops in general.
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Un-be-freakin'-lievable. Congrats, White House...you just pissed off a lot of your base.

Very inconsiderate.

A friend's parents were evacuated out of a building in lower Manhatten today, and they had no idea what the reason was other than an air space violation. Her mother is still recovering from hip surgery. She's not doing so great tonight because of this.

I just emailed the story to her.

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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

I first heard about this at lunch, and I thought it was a bad joke...Wow.

How can Obama top this one? Anyone?

Oh, I know! He can lace our tax refunds with flour! I'm sure that'll cause mass panic...
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

I heard that the Air Force was referring questions to the White House, and the White House was referring questions to the Air Force.

You just gotta' love that level of ineptitude...
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

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I heard that the Air Force was referring questions to the White House, and the White House was referring questions to the Air Force.

You just gotta' love that level of ineptitude...
I wouldn't call it ineptitude, no matter what the WH says, we know they ordered it, because they are the only ones who benefit. The Air Force saw this coming, but was bound by orders and performed.

I would call it This White House has no shame.
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

The story will be made clearer to us in the coming days, but what I don't get is how the Mayor of NY City didn't know about it after the military office insisted that state and local officials had been notified.

So who knew exactly, and why didn't they just broadcast it?
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Re: Air Force One NYC Fly-over

Because its misuse of at least 3 government aircraft.
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