For what purpose? Why would these new standards need to exist at all? In fact, where in the Constitution does the government have the authority to mandate any of this?

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It was ignored because he wrote:
and then was proven wrong.

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That is a logical fallacy. It is your opinion that it's being wasted, not a fact.

Why should you be allowed to drive a car at all?

It's called living in freedom. Perhaps you prefer a Utopian commune, but generations of Americans didn't fight and die to be told how to live their lives by authoritarian oppressors like yourself and the current Federal government.

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Guess people should drive carefully then. Why blame the economically efficient car?

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Unless you know of ANY device that is 100% energy efficient, it is a scientific fact that waste occurs.

And when additional energy has to be used for drag, or weight, the waste ratio is even higher.

Unless you think a car that gets 6 mpg isn't wasteful...

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There's this thing called personal responsibility. Those with some sense of it are aware that their actions have an impact on society at large. Americans didn't fight and die so that the ignorant can screw things up for everyone else.

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Actually we will to an extent. And even when the gov. finally gets its way, oh maybe 20 year or so and the majority of vehicles on the road are the same small euro traps, even when one hits or is hit, lighter mass means squat when velocity is factored in. There fore yes there will be greater injury and the truck question is relevant, we cannot haul stuff in 'le car', as in utility vehicles that people really use as such and long haul trucks.

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Cars are going to get smaller anyway, because the price of gasoline is going up.
If you think $4/gallon was a lot, wait til the dollar takes a dip, and oil is traded in Euros.
You will still be able to drive whatever you want, all of today's vehicles will still be available on the used car market, you can still drive a 76 Eldorado with the 500 cubic inch engine if you want.
But at $10/gallon, most people will opt for a smaller car that gets better mileage.
(Opening a niche for the electric muscle car).

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Well look at the NCAAP Ratings... These are the safety ratings in europe... They rate the safety of the cage of a car when crashed
Look
Euro NCAP - For safer cars | Fiat 500
Euro NCAP - For safer cars | Smart

The Fiat 500 is one of the smallest cars on sale in Europe, I say the smart is the smallest. So I say what people who like the bigger cars
Euro NCAP - For safer cars | Ford Ranger

The Ford Ranger will weigh 1845kg weighs 750kg...

Now look at the results if ford crashed into the Smart or 500.. Most likely the smart will go back but the Ford ranger will brake both legs and might dislocate a knee or hip (the injury pointed out means the engine will drive the brake pedal will be pressed up).. The ford driver would also have chest injuries from the steering wheel...

By the way Ford make one of the safest small cars in Europe
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/ford/fiesta.aspx

Probably the same place where the government has mandated more efficient air conditioners and refrigerators. I guess it does violate the Right to Waste and Pollute amendment?

It is not in the best interest of society to allow inefficient energy wasters when alternatives are available. Responsible government forces the industry to do the right thing. That is in contrast to the Bush government which was owned by lobbyists and ignored the good of society.

For all you Chickens who worry that you won't be "safe" in a small car, I have a solution.

Think of your potential danger as a sacrifice you make as a soldier in the energy war. Its patriotic.

Even a tiny car is safer than a motorcycle by a factor of 100.

Hell, most of the cyclists don't even want to wear helmets!

But, a small cycle gets great mileage...

And as far as "hauling bricks," get the brickyard to deliver them, the delivery charge will be far cheaper than feeding a truck the other 364 days of the year.

Are you honestly trying to infer that the Obama administration is not owned by lobbyists?

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Let's go back to the horse and buggy then. That's the cleanest of all, right?

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I'm not inferring anything. I made a charge that the Bush maladministration was corrupt. You aren't seriously going to dispute that fact are you?

Just because I think that the more efficient alternative makes more sense, that doesn't make me Amish.