Maybe that should tell you something about yourself then.

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

When I'm replying to you thought is a waste of time anyway.

Quite true about fucking people over tho, look what happened when the poor and middle classes got tired of the Republicans fucking them over.

You are right about one thing, once we get UHC noone WILL take it away, not least because noone will ever again elect conservatives

As far as war, look at the subject of this thread. If McCain was Pres we'd have troops in Iran right now

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Alizee Jacotay, the reason god invented hips

Maybe you should try crawling out from under that rock you live under then.


So you say in one sentence that it's patently false yet in the next you state that even if it's true you don't want to listen to the press. Sounds like you really don't care what the truth is in this matter.

Obama came out with a bland meaningless statement that gave him options rather then taking a stand against the injustice and the fraud that he was seeing in Iran.

It took a week of badgering by the usually fawning press to get him to issue a stern condemnation. He claimed that there would be concequences yet when asked to name them he refused to say what they were......which is about as toothless as you can get.

The only action on his part is to publically revoke an invitation to roasted hotdogs at embassies around the world on the 4th. Damn, he is so mean.

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

Sure we would.

McCain isn't the chickenhawk you claim him to be.

You have a habit of exaggerating.

Illuminate me on how the Republicans were fucking us over.

It seems that taking control of GM and Chrysler and putting thousands of dealerships out of business is "fucking the middle class over", don't you think?

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

Try and back up that statement with evidence. I guarantee you it's impossible because it is simply false. Generally when you make an assertion and it is challenged, you provide some kind of support.You misrepresent what I have said. His statements have actually been pretty consistant, and he is taking a nuanced approach. There is a lot of issues to criticize Obama on. This is not one of them IMO.

His approach has been defended by republicans like George Will and Henry Kissinger. Smart republicans. It is dishonest of you to portray this issue as black and white as you do.I ask again - what action wou;d you have him take.

Whatever else I've said about McCain I don't think I've ever called him a chickenhawk. He is personally a brave man, but that's just more's the pity as he doesn't really appear to be that smart. Give me a clever coward as a general anyday.

How were they not? You don't call being literally robbed of your life's savings being fucked over?

GM and Chrysler went bankrupt on their own, and they went bankrupt mainly because of the credit crunch that began in September of 2008, (and was being foreshadowed for years) two months before Obama was even elected.

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Alizee Jacotay, the reason god invented hips

The thing is, those things like 'takeover of the Commerce Dept and add to that the funding of billions to ACORN in the Stimulus bill' actually havent happened in the manner you put them.

Thus you are seeking to patently deceive us.

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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

Guess who?

Not a very well thought out thread, don't you think?

No... a baseless charge of potential cheating by the president was made; that is also the subject of the thread. I asked a question and you jumped to back up the charge that concerned me. Therefore you have taken responsibility for knowing how the president will redistrict the entire country to suit his needs for the 2010 election. The onus probandi is on you.

Either back up the assertion with verifiable qualitative evidence or admit that you are wrong.





The trouble with capitalism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money

Forumeer CharlesDavenport uses the original quote as a signature. I just used it to show how much sense it makes also when you turn it around: it's just as true, showng that the quote is no spark of genius.

With respect to sound bites and elections, political scientists will tell you that it takes a bit more work than that. After all the sound bites, each side needs at least 10 people insted of 9.

One of my last responses to your nonsense was so good, - I'll use it again:

A baseless charge of potential cheating by the president was made; that is also the subject of the thread. I asked a question and you jumped to back up the charge that concerned me. Therefore you have taken responsibility for knowing how the president will redistrict sixteen states to suit his needs for the 2010 election. The onus probandi is on you
Either back up the assertion with verifiable qualitative evidence or admit that you are wrong..

I would like to think that Obama will be President for all Americans unlike Bush who didn't even pretend to represent people who didn't agree with him. When he came to our town to speak, the audiance was cherry picked. Why would Obama have to steal the election. Who do the Republicans have waiting in the wings? S. Pallin? Give me a break!

How do you gerrymander a state for the presidential election?

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Well, first you have to send all the white people off to internment camps. Remember? Mudwhistle was the the first to warn us about them too.

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Alizee Jacotay, the reason god invented hips

Remedial stuff. Judging by your sig, it would be a waste of time to Google it for you anyway.

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"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher