What the fuck does one's views on 9/11 have to do with being able to work well at the White House Council on Environmental Quality? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the guy is gone simply because "the less czars the better", but still, lets not pretend there was any logical reason for him resigning other than people being retarded. If he quit because the czars thing was getting out of control, I'd support the hell out of that. But he left because people disagreed with a view he held that had absolutely no relation to the position he was appointed to.

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He represents the Administration. That the Administration would select someone who holds such views to represent them is concerning.

If he said that all gays and Asians should be exterminated, would you still support him as “Green Jobs Czar”?

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By "people" I guess you're referring to mr. Jones himself. The man is a retard. Look at the retarded crap he sings:


Van Jones Cut Vile, Anti-American Album in 2003 (NSFW)

This is no youthful indiscretion, this is 2003. Will the ObamaMedia be able to ignore a Czar associated with lyrics like this:

The American way manufactured by white folk in office, by these rich men here to mock us. The United States; a piece of stolen land led by right-wing, war-hungry, oil thirsty… And when it’s all said and done still can’t [garbled] the wrong place cause they got people of color playing servant to do that shit for them; mother fuckers ready to wipe out soft targets on territories harboring terrorists?

Tragedy.

The true terrorists are made in the U.S.

Truther/Czar Jones himself at the 4:20 mark:

At this point. The end of the occupation. The right of return of the Palestinian people. These are critical dividing lines in human rights. We have to be here. No American would put up with an Israeli-style occupation of their hometown for 53 days let alone 54 years. US tax dollars are funding violence against people of color inside the US borders and outside the US borders.



Big Hollywood Blog Archive Obama Czar Van Jones Cut Vile, Anti-American Album in 2003 (NSFW)

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Typical black racist bullshit that "evil whitey is the source of all my troubles."

RETARDED

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No, based of the fact that there shouldn't even be a "Green Job Czar" in the first place (not to mention that saying all gays and Asians should exterminated is quite a bit different from the vile but ultimately ridiculous idea that the government allowed 9/11 to happen).

Let me reiterate, I'm glad the guy is gone. I just think the reasoning behind him leaving is based more off a knee-jerk reaction. For a few Presidencies now, we've had problems with people being appointed to positions who were unqualified and the appointment was mostly due to cronyism. Now we have a guy who actually does have quite a resume for the position he was appointed to and he gets removed due to unrelated beliefs that would have zero impact on his job. If he was appointed to a position where his beliefs regarding the 9/11 attacks could possibly play a role, his resignation would certainly make a lot more sense.

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You forgot to mention that he's clearly retarded (see post #78).

I know, it's easier to ignore hard evidence and pretend it's not right in front of us

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It wasn't just because he signed a petition about 9/11, it was that - on top of his calling Republicans 'assholes', which (even if it were true) hardly shows him to be an intelligent thoughtful person. Or theres the racist comments - too numberous to list - or the fact that he is, by his own admission, a 'radical communist, or that he has commented that it is necessary to pretend to disassociate oneself from ones belief in order to gain the power to implement those beliefs. There are many more but these are some sweet highlights.

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Great Quotes from Great Americans:

"With regard to the words 'general welfare', I have always regarded them as qualified by the details of the powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphisis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."James Madison, Father of the Constitution

But once again, these would have zero impact on his ability to perform the position he was appointed to. I guess I'm more arguing for the sake of arguing at this point because we all seem to agree that it's a good thing the guy is gone (although for different reasons).

Let's not pretend that every great person in Washington our country has seen is a stand-up person that should be emulated. We've had excellent leaders who were slave owners, leaders who led armies for the sole purpose of killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, leaders who were anti-Indian and believed in their removal and destruction, leaders who killed men merely for insulting their wife, leaders who believed it was okay to round up and intern specific ethnic groups, etc. And all of these people had considerably more power and influence than some schmuck appointed to a "Green Jobs Czar" position.

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How about him being a racist? You saw the videos. They guy is a loon.

How can you have a racist be a "Job Czar" of any kind?

That is conflicting.

Had he not called Republicans "assholes", he'd still have his fucking job...

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That'd be relevant if they guy was appointed as "Race Relations Czar" or some bullshit like that. But he wasn't. Heck, Thomas Jefferson believed blacks were inferior to whites and the only solution for peaceful abolition was to send 'em all back to Africa. I seem to recall him being a pretty stand up politician in the end, though.

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Not really. From what I understand, the position was to create more "green jobs", not have an influence on hiring practices.

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We cannot judge the views of those who lived at that time by todays standards.

Van Jones is a radical racist. He is not an appropriate person to have working in any public organization. Certainly not being paid with taxpayers money.

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Great Quotes from Great Americans:

"With regard to the words 'general welfare', I have always regarded them as qualified by the details of the powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphisis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."James Madison, Father of the Constitution

Perhaps. I was under the impression that most of the complaints came from his views on 9/11 and his past association with communist movements.

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They were not 'past' associations. Many of his statements come within the last 12 months.... unless he had a 'Saul on the road to Damascus' moment that he kept quiet about. And given his ability to shoot his mouth off about just about anything, I hardly think that likely.

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Great Quotes from Great Americans:

"With regard to the words 'general welfare', I have always regarded them as qualified by the details of the powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphisis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."James Madison, Father of the Constitution