Thread: Who regrets voting for Obama?

I would imagine that some people regret voting for him, because even with a majority in both houses, he has not done what they expected him to do, i.e. Cap and Trade Legislation, amnesty for illegals, Canadian-style healthcare reform, a value-added tax, total pullout of troops from iraq and Afghansitan, recission of foreign military aid to Israel, full diplomatic relations with Iran, a legal ban on salt in restaurants, dissolution of the U.S. Marine Corps, extending civil rights to animals, and the appointment of Cindy Sheehan as Secretary of Defense and Michael Moore as Secretary of State.

Originally Posted by hairballxavier

Hindsight is 20/20

In this case, not for the ~20,000 of us who voted for him.

Originally Posted by danielpalos

There are still plenty of public works projects that could be accomplished.

Remember "shovel Ready" nope don't want to waste money on that their may be another union in trouble that we will need money for. Auto workers union, state government union workers, teachers unions, who knows union need it next.

We still have our "conservative", wars on abstractions that are being funded as well; and, not much infrastructure has been upgraded instead.

Does it even matter Berry Obama is just a puppet of the global banking Elite and the Military-industrial complex, local politics is where our votes really matter. For any one who didn't or does not vote its like KRS-One says, a none vote is a vote, its a vote saying you are happy with the current way our government is functioning, every one should go lissen to the Teacher, that's KRS-One, he has some really intresting and informative things to say.

The global banking elite can't enact public policies via legislation. It can only be accomplished by persons who are supposed to be supporting and defending our own supreme Law of the Land; simply for the sake of being legal to our own Laws.

Amongst all the noise and the yelling etc, I think Obama has done a really good job, has anybody read the healthcare bill? It makes sure you are not denied care just because you have some sort of pre-existing condition. I haven't went through it with a fine-toothed comb, but I have scanned it.

I think the main reason why people are turning against him is because a lot of people who normally vote republican but decided to vote Obama this time want to have their cake and eat it with every political decision they make. They can't get the fact that the bailouts were thanks to the Bush administration and don't want to admit it - the solution for stability is to pay a bit more tax, that along with the bailouts is the final straw with people that earn a good living but if they got it into their heads that the reason there is so much crime to pay for, so much homeless to pay for BECAUSE of the far right neo conservative strategies, then a little bit more in tax is a small price to pay than to risk all-or nothing for the future when the far right boom and bust agenda is going to take every income these upper middle people make. You see, people think it will never happen to them, and because they think it'll never happen to them, they keep tempting fate by risking it all in place of paying just a little more in tax. Once the jobs move away and gets soaked up in the next few years and it happens to be a republican in power, you will see these guys shout 'freeeeedooooom' and they won't even have a house, a job and will end up regretting bemoaning that tax bill after the 'freedom shouting' has died down.

Originally Posted by scottishjimmy

Amongst all the noise and the yelling etc, I think Obama has done a really good job, has anybody read the healthcare bill? It makes sure you are not denied care just because you have some sort of pre-existing condition. I haven't went through it with a fine-toothed comb, but I have scanned it.

I think the main reason why people are turning against him is because a lot of people who normally vote republican but decided to vote Obama this time want to have their cake and eat it with every political decision they make. They can't get the fact that the bailouts were thanks to the Bush administration and don't want to admit it - the solution for stability is to pay a bit more tax, that along with the bailouts is the final straw with people that earn a good living but if they got it into their heads that the reason there is so much crime to pay for, so much homeless to pay for BECAUSE of the far right neo conservative strategies, then a little bit more in tax is a small price to pay than to risk all-or nothing for the future when the far right boom and bust agenda is going to take every income these upper middle people make. You see, people think it will never happen to them, and because they think it'll never happen to them, they keep tempting fate by risking it all in place of paying just a little more in tax. Once the jobs move away and gets soaked up in the next few years and it happens to be a republican in power, you will see these guys shout 'freeeeedooooom' and they won't even have a house, a job and will end up regretting bemoaning that tax bill after the 'freedom shouting' has died down.

What an absolute load of bullshite from beginning to end.

First of all, I think I can safely say, very few if any, people who "normally" vote republican voted for B.O.

Please explain to us, in detail, how Bush is solely to blame for all the bailouts.

Since you admit you "haven't went through it with a fine toothed comb", how do you know what's in it? Are you fucking serious?

On second thought, why don't you worry about Scotland, and we'll worry about our country, m'kay?

Originally Posted by scottishjimmy

Amongst all the noise and the yelling etc, I think Obama has done a really good job, has anybody read the healthcare bill? It makes sure you are not denied care just because you have some sort of pre-existing condition. I haven't went through it with a fine-toothed comb, but I have scanned it.

I think the main reason why people are turning against him is because a lot of people who normally vote republican but decided to vote Obama this time want to have their cake and eat it with every political decision they make. They can't get the fact that the bailouts were thanks to the Bush administration and don't want to admit it - the solution for stability is to pay a bit more tax, that along with the bailouts is the final straw with people that earn a good living but if they got it into their heads that the reason there is so much crime to pay for, so much homeless to pay for BECAUSE of the far right neo conservative strategies, then a little bit more in tax is a small price to pay than to risk all-or nothing for the future when the far right boom and bust agenda is going to take every income these upper middle people make. You see, people think it will never happen to them, and because they think it'll never happen to them, they keep tempting fate by risking it all in place of paying just a little more in tax. Once the jobs move away and gets soaked up in the next few years and it happens to be a republican in power, you will see these guys shout 'freeeeedooooom' and they won't even have a house, a job and will end up regretting bemoaning that tax bill after the 'freedom shouting' has died down.

I've probably read it more than you have, and no, I don't think empowering a corrupt system(which is what this bill does) is a good thing. The part about pre-existing conditions is utterly pointless in the grand scope. Insurance, particularly Health insurance, is a scam, period. That's not a "far right" or "neo-conservative" ideology, that's a mathematical fact.

I can't believe how many people are stupid enough to believe you NEED to give some random suit your money to be safe, it's absurdly foolish ideology that most of the world seems caught up in. And now, we're required by law to be scammed. Fantastic.

Originally Posted by countryboy

What an absolute load of bullshite from beginning to end.

First of all, I think I can safely say, very few if any, people who "normally" vote republican voted for B.O.

Please explain to us, in detail, how Bush is solely to blame for all the bailouts.

Since you admit you "haven't went through it with a fine toothed comb", how do you know what's in it? Are you fucking serious?

On second thought, why don't you worry about Scotland, and we'll worry about our country, m'kay?

The Bush administration organized the bailouts - have you been living under a rock, the congress was bought and sold down the river.

Er, when I say I 'haven't been through it with a fine toothed comb' that didn't mean to say I didn't read it. I work with contracts on a daily basis, there are certain ways to read things, slowly, or scanning for warning flags then concentrating on that particular area.

The last time I checked this was the 'US Politics Forum' and it seems that you think you can talk about international affairs too, there is a thread devoted to that, so I'll pretty much say what I want freely on this forum with regards to US politics because that's the point of it isn't it?

The bailouts was because nobody had the money to pay wall street and everything had been oversold with no safety net in society. In turn the insurance companies and banks had to be bailed out. Bullshite - I think not.

Originally Posted by Lesser Known

I've probably read it more than you have, and no, I don't think empowering a corrupt system(which is what this bill does) is a good thing. The part about pre-existing conditions is utterly pointless in the grand scope. Insurance, particularly Health insurance, is a scam, period. That's not a "far right" or "neo-conservative" ideology, that's a mathematical fact.

I can't believe how many people are stupid enough to believe you NEED to give some random suit your money to be safe, it's absurdly foolish ideology that most of the world seems caught up in. And now, we're required by law to be scammed. Fantastic.

'Random Suit' - Would that be some faceless person that works in a corporation that only thinks about self interest and seeing how many people they can con or someone that can be controlled by the voter AND vetted by the public authorities that represent the people. The pre-existing conditions are not pointless, you just don't understand the value that universal healtcare will give to society, and more importantly to you - your business. Crime will go down, the small business owner won't have to shut because the area won't be so depressed and people will have the ability to be able to work rather than be sick all the time - which inevitably happens if you cannot get treatement and you come across a bad infection, which happens to everyone at some stage in their lives.

It's not a 'mathematical fact' that you speak of, this system works in France, in Norway, in Denmark, in the UK (let's hope the tories don't get rid of it, they promised not to). It works, and it has proven to work for the better of the economy.

Originally Posted by scottishjimmy

The Bush administration organized the bailouts - have you been living under a rock, the congress was bought and sold down the river.

Er, when I say I 'haven't been through it with a fine toothed comb' that didn't mean to say I didn't read it. I work with contracts on a daily basis, there are certain ways to read things, slowly, or scanning for warning flags then concentrating on that particular area.

The last time I checked this was the 'US Politics Forum' and it seems that you think you can talk about international affairs too, there is a thread devoted to that, so I'll pretty much say what I want freely on this forum with regards to US politics because that's the point of it isn't it?

The bailouts was because nobody had the money to pay wall street and everything had been oversold with no safety net in society. In turn the insurance companies and banks had to be bailed out. Bullshite - I think not.

Sooo, this is your explanation of why B.O. is blameless for the bailouts? Seriously?

I stand by my Bullshite comment. You're free to make bullshit comments, I'm free to point them out.

Yes it is the explanation. The only public spending that caused the recession were on conglomerates caused by their exploitation of the free market. Like one poster said, how has the tax cuts that Bush introduced affected unemployment when he was in power?

Public spending on actual services that the public needs such as healthcare and other things (that are regulated by public authorities in this case) do not amount to a fraction of the debt that came from bailing out the banks.

"Sooo, this is your explanation of why B.O. is blameless for the bailouts? Seriously?"

Said like a true airhead..... like whatever!!!!!! Is that the best you can do?