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Old 07-27-2009
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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No, 10th place out of the last 12 presidents is quite a bit below average.
Perhaps you would decipher your mystic code, Grasshopper.
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Perhaps you would decipher your mystic code, Grasshopper.

Read post #20.
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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Read post #20.
You are so coy , sweety. Why dont you just say it. Polls are really important to you, no?

O is at the bottom this list:
Historical rankings of United States Presidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
O hasnt been around long enough to rated properly . Your hero had 8 years to be rated the worst.
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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I personally only listen to polls when they reinforce my beliefs.
Good idea. Im going to do a poll to let me know if I should do that.
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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Good idea. Im going to do a poll to let me know if I should do that.
Just be prepared to alter or throw out any undesirable outcome.
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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No, 10th place out of the last 12 presidents is quite a bit below average.
who were 11 and 12, i wonder? i bet they were pretty recent presidents. the institution is just generally less popular than it used to be.
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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Just be prepared to alter or throw out any undesirable outcome.
I was planning on asking the question in a certain way to get the answer I want. Like, should I only listen to polls that I agree with, or club baby seals? 99% said I should do the first. 1% was a bit twisted.
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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who were 11 and 12, i wonder? i bet they were pretty recent presidents. the institution is just generally less popular than it used to be.
Nixon and carter...
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Nixon and carter...
two presidents who also inherited disasters. interesting.
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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You are so coy , sweety. Why dont you just say it. Polls are really important to you, no?

O is at the bottom this list:
Historical rankings of United States Presidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
O hasnt been around long enough to rated properly . Your hero had 8 years to be rated the worst.

Hey Slick, weren’t you one of the ones whining about how Rasmussen’s findings must not be accurate? Weren’t you saying that we’ll surely want this administration for more than 8 years?;

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Nothing goes up or down forever. He has 3.5 more years to make US all love him again. With the economy , stock market and our foreign image all improving, we will surely want to repeal the 22nd Amendment.
Besides, it is well-known that Rasmussen is a RW hack pollster who is usually in the pay of some Republican

Is pollster Scott Rasmussen a right-wing hack with an agenda? | truthseeker77's Blog
Poll Showing Drop In Obama’s Approval Rating Is Biased | NEWS JUNKIE POST


It sure looks that way. I figured you’d be interested in a poll from yet another respected pollster that showed similar results. BTW, what’s a blank entry on a web site that anyone with internet access can change supposed to prove?
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who were 11 and 12, i wonder? i bet they were pretty recent presidents. the institution is just generally less popular than it used to be.

Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush, both one term presidents.
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush, both one term presidents.
your compadre has carter and nixon. hmm...
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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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your compadre has carter and nixon. hmm...
I misread the article, it was W and Clinton. Carter and Bush 41 both had approvals in the 60's at this point.

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Re: Negative 11!! -Thats -11%... Obama has some work to do...

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I misread the article, it was W and Clinton. Carter and Bush 41 both had approvals in the 60's at this point.

Polls can affect president's hold on party - USATODAY.com
opps sorry I was mistaken..
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Old 07-29-2009
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Re: Down Down Down. Obama approval Down below 50%

Well, let's take a look at how the numbers have progressed since the thread started and all the fawning Obamaphiles instantly tried to minimize the Rassmussen numbers as an "outlier" (when they weren't stupidly bringing Fox into the discussion per their normal pathological hatred of that news organization).

Latest numbers from major pollsters:

Rassmusesen: Jul 25-27, 1,500 likely voters - 49%
Zogby: Jun 12-18, 3,728 likely voters - 49%
NPR: Jun 22-26, 850 likely voters - 53%
Gallup: July 25-27, 1,547 adults - 54%

Now, let me start by acknowledging that Zogby's numbers are over a month old, but they are based on the largest sampling of likely voters, and nobody I think can reasonably make the case that Obama's numbers overall have improved in the last month, most show a downward decline. Furthermore, taken chronologically, it preceeded the Rassmussen numbers which make those look less like an outlyer and more of an ahead of the curve reflection of what the numbers are really doing than the polls with higher approval ratings.

Since the thread started, Rassmussen's numbers have held relatively steady, and Gallup has dropped.

If I were a betting man, I would guess that the aggregate number in a week will look a whole lot closer to Rassmussen and Zogby than Gallup and NPR.
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