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Time to accept it, folks - Obama is eligible for the office and was legitimately elected.(CNN) - President Barack Obama may have one less problem to worry about.
A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit that claimed Obama is ineligible to be president because he isn't a bona fide U.S. citizen.
The lawsuit represented the claim by the so-called "birthers" movement that Obama was not born in Hawaii - despite a birth certificate to the contrary - or that if he was, his citizenship was invalidated by living overseas as a child.
In a 30-page ruling, U.S. District Judge David O. Carter of California said his court lacked the jurisdiction to rule on a case intended to unseat a sitting president.
Carter's ruling said the plaintiffs were trying to persuade him to "disregard the constitutional procedures in place for the removal of a sitting president."
"The process for removal of a sitting president - removal for any reason - is within the province of Congress, not the courts," the ruling said.
Carter's ruling also noted that the plaintiffs "have attacked the judiciary, including every prior court that has dismissed their claim, as unpatriotic and even treasonous for refusing to grant their requests and for adhering to the terms of the Constitution."
"Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this court is not unpatriotic," the ruling said. "Quite the contrary, this court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism."
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Put a done stamp on it, and move on......
Moderator
I won't waste a one minute or a single penny of my time and money... but I say let them go at it.
Obama could end this in 10 minutes with a single sheet of certified long form birth certificate.
But for reasons I can't even imagine he has... through oh... 4 or 5 of these things choose not to.
Also... as of this ruling no judge has ruled on the facts of the matter... only on point of law to wit:
"disregard the constitutional procedures in place for the removal of a sitting president."
Speaker of the House
First, even if Obama released his long form certificate, they would just find something else to bitch about... claiming itīs a fake or some such. Conspiracy theorists always find something new.Originally Posted by tsquare
Second, maybe itīs about principle. If Obama (or any other person, for that matter) should release any documentation every time some sick claim is made at them, where does it stop? He couldnīt do anything but fight of wackos all day long. Besides, the more people screaming about him in this insane manner, the more votes for Obama.
"It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or another." - George W. Bush
Moderator
Oh... you mean like all the nut jobs that dogged Bush for his full 8 years... including Dan Rather?
Yeah... that must have been what you meant...
Speaker of the House
And it was all crap then as it is now, yes.
"It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or another." - George W. Bush
Vice President
Well, the court has taken a diferent and interesting tack this time.
In past rulings they just say the petitionery has no standing. I have to assume that this was not the case in this filing. The article did not detail the particulars of the suit.
This might actually be a step in the right direction in getting this actually looked at.
"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."
Ayn Rand
Vice President
you ae aware that the election was over last year, right ?
"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."
Ayn Rand
Speaker of the House
Well, meant for the Democrats... if you can paint these people screaming out insane conspiracy theories as being the fringe part of the Republican party, you stand a pretty good chance of getting rational undecideds to vote for you.
So yes, these lawsuits does more to help Obama and the Democrats than it hurts them.
Agree or not?
"It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or another." - George W. Bush
Vice President
I don't happen to believe at this point that it will matter much if anything either way regarding BHO specifically or DEMs in general. Its a rapidly dimishing blip on the radar if its there at all.
"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."
Ayn Rand
Watch after he leaves office it will come out that he was IN FACT NOT born in the US and we will have some fucking illegal alien running for president in 2016 with this precedent set by Obama.
Obama WAS NOT born in the United States of America.
Proud Virginian Administrator!
Swoop, I think you would make an excellent representative of the birther movement.
"Finding the occasional straw of truth awash in a great ocean of confusion and bamboozle requires intelligence, vigilance, dedication and courage. But if we don't practice these tough habits of thought, we cannot hope to solve the truly serious problems that face us -- and we risk becoming a nation of suckers, up for grabs by the next charlatan who comes along." -Carl Sagan
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And I think liberals don't care if he was born in the US or not.
Why don't you go read about his fucking father first before blindly accepting hes a US citizen?
The fact his own fucking family claims he wasn't born in the US, is enough to make someone do a double take. Not to mention the guy has a fucking pseudonym in "Barry Soetoro."
Only liberals wouldn't question a guy who has two fucking names..
The FACTS are, there is more then enough evidence to warrant an opposing view.
Last edited by Swoop187; 10-30-2009 at 07:16 AM.
Proud Virginian Administrator!
All of those "facts" were shown to be completely wrong long ago. As I said, you would make an excellent representative of the birther movement.
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Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
I think it was a very astute move by Obama. He has now got all the crack pots in one place.
Future complains from the same people about anything can be discredited quite easily.
Obama played this perfect. Keep your opponents running around chasing something that there is nothing in while you get some real work done.
Hawaiian "birth certificates" at the time of Obama's birth were just handed out upon request with NO PROOF OF BIRTH required.All of those "facts" were shown to be completely wrong long ago. As I said, you would make an excellent representative of the birther movement.
With that said his "birth certificate" is NOT EVIDENCE of his birth in the US.
Like I said, you and other liberals wouldn't give a shit if he was born in the US or not.
Its typical of the liberal ethics.
Achieve a large socialist nanny state government at any and all costs.
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