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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

How is more market participation in money based markets by those "consumers" who would otherwise have less or no income, bad for the private sector? How is it bad for local governments which raise revenue through general forms of taxation? Most income in the lower tax brackets is spent sooner rather than accumulated.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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PLEASE--you know as well as I do that ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, & MSNBC are literally responsible for Barack Obama sitting in the oval office today. They had absolutely no problems at all kicking Hillary to the curb to get Obama elected. They have continually "ignored" news that would cast a negative light on Obama up until now.
I would say GEEDUB had a lot more to do with it. They coulda put a Democrat sticker on a 35 year old retarded midget and people would have come out to vote for him.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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I would say GEEDUB had a lot more to do with it. They coulda put a Democrat sticker on a 35 year old retarded midget and people would have come out to vote for him.

That is exactly what W was, only older.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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I would say GEEDUB had a lot more to do with it. They coulda put a Democrat sticker on a 35 year old retarded midget and people would have come out to vote for him.

GEEDUB is not looking so bad right now. But you're right--the complete hysteria over Obama--blinded the masses.

You know it was just 2 years ago that we had two candidates in Mexico running for President. One promised the masses that he would take from the rich & give to the poor. The other candidate stated--well our 2nd largest industry--tourism depends on foreign investers & foreign land owners.

The masses in Mexico city "almost" elected Obrigon--the take from the foreign wealthy to give to them--but the rest of the country--said HMM--you know my job depends on tourism so I'll vote for Calderon. Calderon won by a very slim margin.

Unfortunately Americans did not. Obama & the Democrat party made certain that Americans loathed business & hated anyone in this country that made over 250K. That business (specifically Wall St.) was responsible for this current economic collapse--that they have been ripping off Americans for decades. Americans forgot that corporations or business can also be spelled J.O.B.S in this country.

They actually believed that 5% of this nation aka as the over 250K crowd would be able to give 95% of the rest of us a tax cut, pay for an additional 1 trillion in Obama's spending plans, pay down the deficit & pay for their health care too. Something a 3rd grade math student would figure was fuzzy math.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

A different piece on FOX this morning also showed numerous examples of bogus "jobs saved" across the country.

Can you say "lie"?
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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A different piece on FOX this morning also showed numerous examples of bogus "jobs saved" across the country.

Can you say "lie"?
It is a lie. The associated press just reviewed 10% of the claims & found all kinds of other items that were listed as job creation when none existed.

They are promising to review the other 90% of the WH claims.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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GEEDUB is not looking so bad right now. But you're right--the complete hysteria over Obama--blinded the masses.
No, he's looking exactly as much the shitty, befuddled numbskull that he always was and will be.
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You know it was just 2 years ago that we had two candidates in Mexico running for President. One promised the masses that he would take from the rich & give to the poor. The other candidate stated--well our 2nd largest industry--tourism depends on foreign investers & foreign land owners.
Except, of course, that it's illegal in Mexico for foreigners to own land. Anything else you'd like to get wrong?
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The masses in Mexico city "almost" elected Obrigon--the take from the foreign wealthy to give to them--but the rest of the country--said HMM--you know my job depends on tourism so I'll vote for Calderon. Calderon won by a very slim margin.
To attempt to equate the Mexican economic conditions and dynamics with those of the United States, in terms of the respective political candidates is, simply, idiotic.
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Unfortunately Americans did not. Obama & the Democrat party made certain that Americans loathed business & hated anyone in this country that made over 250K.
Except, of course, that they didn't.
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That business (specifically Wall St.) was responsible for this current economic collapse--that they have been ripping off Americans for decades.
And indeed they have been. To deny that is the very height of irrationality.
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Americans forgot that corporations or business can also be spelled J.O.B.S in this country.
No, we haven't forgotten that, but most of us are unwilling to overlook the corruption of many large corporations that you so easily swallow.
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They actually believed that 5% of this nation aka as the over 250K crowd would be able to give 95% of the rest of us a tax cut, pay for an additional 1 trillion in Obama's spending plans, pay down the deficit & pay for their health care too. Something a 3rd grade math student would figure was fuzzy math.
No, Americans didn't necessarily believe that.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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No, he's looking exactly as much the shitty, befuddled numbskull that he always was and will be.

Except, of course, that it's illegal in Mexico for foreigners to own land. Anything else you'd like to get wrong?

To attempt to equate the Mexican economic conditions and dynamics with those of the United States, in terms of the respective political candidates is, simply, idiotic.

Except, of course, that they didn't.

And indeed they have been. To deny that is the very height of irrationality.

No, we haven't forgotten that, but most of us are unwilling to overlook the corruption of many large corporations that you so easily swallow.

No, Americans didn't necessarily believe that.

It's illegal for foreigners to own property in Mexico--funny but I do. I own a vacation villa in Bucerias that I rent out to vacationers-- I also speak fluent Spanish. All of the fancy vacation resorts in Mexico are owned--built & managed by foriengers.

To add--the election in Mexico between the two candidates is exactly the same. One promising the masses that they were going to take from the foreign wealthy investors to give to the poor--(which is what Obama promised--he was going to take from the over 250K crowd to give to the poor).

It looks like Mexican were much wiser in their decision than Americans were--LOL

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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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It's illegal for foreigners to own property in Mexico--funny but I do. I own a vacation villa in Bucerias that I rent out to vacationers-- I also speak fluent Spanish.
That's nice, but irrelevant. If you're not a Mexican national, you simply do not own property there. You might have a 99 year lease, or have a real estate trust set up by a bank, but you don't own it. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
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To add--the election in Mexico between the two candidates is exactly the same. One promising the masses that they were going to take from the foreign wealthy investors to give to the poor--(which is what Obama promised).
No, that's not what the O promised. Oversimplifying what he said to try and force it into making some sort of point isn't working for you.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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That's nice, but irrelevant. If you're not a Mexican national, you simply do not own property there. You might have a 99 year lease, or have a real estate trust set up by a bank, but you don't own it. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

No, that's not what the O promised. Oversimplifying what he said to try and force it into making some sort of point isn't working for you.
Tanngerine--before you reply --you may want to check into Fidelicomiso property in Mexico--aka registered property. Any foreigner can own property within Mexico if it is outside of 60 miles of any beach front property. Within 60 miles or beachfront property it is called Fidelicomiso property or to you registered property. Go to vrbo.com look up Mexico & any district in Mexico & you will find thousands of foreigners that own & can buy & sell property in Mexico like we do in the U.S. The only difference in registered property in Mexico (within the 60 miles) is you dedicate a bank to be the trustee--& you are the owners of the trust which is for 99 years. If you decide to keep the property past 99 years you pay another fee for registration & go on from there. Other than that you buy & sell Mexican property just like in the U.S.

Therefore--Foreigners have bought most of the beach front property for investment to build these fancy resorts & they EMPLOY millions of Mexicans.

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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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Tanngerine--before you reply & make a total idiot out of yourself
Only God can make someone an idiot, a person can make an ignoramous of themselves though.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

It cracks me up when an anonymous internet poster who can barely put together a rational paragraph and shows no evidence of education or awareness of the world around him claims to be a wealthy business owner with an exotic vacation home. I guess it must be true it's easier to get rich in this country than anywher else in the world.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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It cracks me up when an anonymous internet poster who can barely put together a rational paragraph and shows no evidence of education or awareness of the world around him claims to be a wealthy business owner with an exotic vacation home. I guess it must be true it's easier to get rich in this country than anywher else in the world.
As opposed to fools who think that jobs "created or saved" at a cost of $230,000 each is a stunning success of economic policy!
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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As opposed to fools who think that jobs "created or saved" at a cost of $230,000 each is a stunning success of economic policy!
Being misled or mistaken or partisan is one thing. Especially since the so called "experts" can't even agree on what an economic success is these days. Boosting your self image by telling strangers how rich and succesful you are is something else.
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Re: CBS--Don't believe WH claims of stimulus saved or created jobs.

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Being misled or mistaken or partisan is one thing. Especially since the so called "experts" can't even agree on what an economic success is these days. Boosting your self image by telling strangers how rich and succesful you are is something else.
Like I said, even if we accept as absolutely, unassailably correct the numbers being put out by the White House, only a blindly partisan fool could conclude it has been a success.

It would have been far more effecient to get that money into the hands of consumers by suspending income and payrol taxes for the later half of the year.
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