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Re: Barack Obama will skip the 20 Year celebration of fall of the Berlin Wall
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Obama gives lots of speeches.
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Re: Barack Obama will skip the 20 Year celebration of fall of the Berlin Wall
True. But, Reagan did more than just give a speech. He fought the communists everywhere using every reasonable tool at his disposal, from diplomacy to deep space.
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![]() My hero... ![]() edit: sorry, that was childish, I know... but I couldn't help myself, lol... Last edited by Jefe; 2 Weeks Ago at 06:26 AM. |
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Re: Barack Obama will skip the 20 Year celebration of fall of the Berlin Wall
His legend builds. I suggest we remove Roosevelt's face off Rushmore and replace him with Reagan. Both were Republicans, so it should get bi-partisan support.
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the speech was a sort of culmination. without his efforts before it that wall would not have come down.
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Re: Barack Obama will skip the 20 Year celebration of fall of the Berlin Wall
then a more proper response to tann's post would have been an outline of which actions of reagan's contributed to bringing down the wall, not posting a quote from a speech which doesn't describe anything that he did.
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Re: Barack Obama will skip the 20 Year celebration of fall of the Berlin Wall
Don't hold your breath. The Reagan worshipers have tried, again and again, to lay the collapse of the USSR, and communism in general, at the feet of the hallowed St. Ronnie, but the historical record keeps getting in their way.
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Re: Barack Obama will skip the 20 Year celebration of fall of the Berlin Wall
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Hmmm....are you thinking what I'm thinking?
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Re: Barack Obama will skip the 20 Year celebration of fall of the Berlin Wall
skipping the usual.....I had this written offline last night and will post it now, then go back and read posts above it...
I cannot imagine one reason why this would be a no go…it’s a huge event, it’s a winner for all, with zero downside and significant upside as well, us the continent, we all fought a war, came together and recognized a greater evil thereafter. Shoulder to shoulder,50 years, humongous amounts of national treasure and effort amongst all participants and together. No recriminations, every one won whom should have, hundreds of millions realized greater freedoms, liberty etc. This is tailor made, Nato and the US side by side, we did it and we should celebrate it silver ann. Together, Merkel asking him personally well, anyone familiar with her life story, growing up in east Germany etc. this is a win win. A speech speaking to Natos success and forward vision as new and different issues are on the horizon and evident in say Afghanistan, if we all pull together, which it appears Nato is more than ready to do, then what better place AND time to say so and cement that common resolve? If one doesn’t celebrate a victory like this, then what is there to celebrate?
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I made no bones about any of the trips he has made save one- the Olympics…sorry to pop that bubble. As far as going to Europe hes been there many times and already has 2 more trips sheduled in the next 7 weeks,one after he was invited to Berlin for the celebration. And let us be fair here, he had no issue going there as a CANDIDATE, remember? In the Tiergarten? Making a speech? Hes been to several world venues, for a myriad of reasons, Cairo, Copenhagen, he’ll be going back to discuss global warming in Nov. he’ll be going to Oslo for the Peace prize. It appears you, and the other Emoters think that perhaps on a priority scale, the fall of the wall/end of the cold war and whats celebrated frankly as the end a war, a EURO-US moment of unity and celebration may be no big deal ( if I am wriong please correct me) and I am out of line somehow asking we hes not going? Is that it? Can we get to the question and dispense with the accusations over motivation here in the forum…its just a blind alley.
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Who said Reagan was solely responsible and what does it have to do with the question? We aren't discussing Reagan, the question is why would Obama pass on a salutary historical event where in we played a huge part and was a win for everyone, would provide a wonderful venue and opportunity to cement and acknowledge everyone’s contributions going forward especially now ?
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Re: Barack Obama will skip the 20 Year celebration of fall of the Berlin Wall
sorry but since you don't know me and have decided to engage in knocking down a strawman to start with anyway, I really don't care what you buy. My outrage, fiegned or not, is not the topic or question.
Answer the question.
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