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Call for calm after US military base killings

Barack Obama cautioned a stunned public on Friday against drawing quick conclusions on a shooting rampage by an officer at a Texas military base that killed 13 people.

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Yep... SERIOUISLY... he calls for not jumping to conclusions in regard to a guy yelling GOD IS GREAT and shooting dozens of people, but when his freind was arrested for being a racist peice of shit.. he jumped pretty fast huh???
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Call for calm after US military base killings

Barack Obama cautioned a stunned public on Friday against drawing quick conclusions on a shooting rampage by an officer at a Texas military base that killed 13 people.

FT.com / US / Politics & Foreign policy - Call for calm after US military base killings

Yep... SERIOUISLY... he calls for not jumping to conclusions in regard to a guy yelling GOD IS GREAT and shooting dozens of people, but when his freind was arrested for being a racist peice of shit.. he jumped pretty fast huh???
I thought about that, too.

The catalyst of the shooting is clear to anyone intelligent enough to put two and two together...
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Yes, I saw that as well.

The primary and overwhelming concern right now is for the Muslim community and this is true in the media as well.

Concern is understandable, but to turn it into the main story is taking political correctness to the very end of reasonableness and beyond.

A mass murder took place. There were real victims. Those victims have family and friends and people who knew and loved them. They MUST be the number one concern.

The president has again struck just the wrong note here. This weird tone-deafness to the public mood is jarring and confusing. No doubt he meant well, but the reference to 'jumping to conclusions' came across as oddly smug, distant and patronizing.

The great vice of the left is self-righteous condescension, and this generally takes the form of lectures and then policies that reflect those lectures.

In this case, the lecture sounded like a schoolmarm telling unruly schoolchildren how to behave.

Is there anyone who might tell Obama to choose his tone and his timing more carefully, and with greater awareness and sensitivity?

Or do those surrounding him hold to the same PC view of the world?
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Barack Obama cautioned a stunned public on Friday against drawing quick conclusions on a shooting rampage by an officer at a Texas military base that killed 13 people.

FT.com / US / Politics & Foreign policy - Call for calm after US military base killings

Yep... SERIOUISLY... he calls for not jumping to conclusions in regard to a guy yelling GOD IS GREAT and shooting dozens of people, but when his freind was arrested for being a racist peice of shit.. he jumped pretty fast huh???
One case involved a simple arrest and was dropped.

One case involved a mass murder at a US base.

I'm not surprised you can't see the difference, frankly.
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One case involved a simple arrest and was dropped.

One case involved a mass murder at a US base.

I'm not surprised you can't see the difference, frankly.
How is jumping to a conclusion warranted in one case and not the other?
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How is jumping to a conclusion warranted in one case and not the other?
They are radically different in nature, complexity and possible consequences.

I'm not saying that jumping to a conclusion is warranted, I'm saying the comparison of the two is asinine.
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One case involved a simple arrest and was dropped.

One case involved a mass murder at a US base.

I'm not surprised you can't see the difference, frankly.
ok, i get it so obama can jump tto conclusions becaue white cops are racist? ok.
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They are radically different in nature, complexity and possible consequences.

I'm not saying that jumping to a conclusion is warranted, I'm saying the comparison of the two is asinine.
The comparison was not being made between the two cases.

The comparison being made was of the Golden Boy's reactions to each of the cases...
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The comparison was not being made between the two cases.

The comparison being made was of the Golden Boy's reactions to each of the cases...
Also, IMO, not really comparable because of the relative consequences of both cases. In one, there's a real possibility of unrest and possible violence against a certain class of people (witness the increased security all over the country around mosques w/police presence, etc...) and one didn't have that.

I would expect, in a case like Fort Hood, any POTUS would come out and say exactly the same thing.
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Also, IMO, not really comparable because of the relative consequences of both cases. In one, there's a real possibility of unrest and possible violence against a certain class of people (witness the increased security all over the country around mosques w/police presence, etc...) and one didn't have that.

I would expect, in a case like Fort Hood, any POTUS would come out and say exactly the same thing.
Tthat still doesn't address why it's okay to jump to a conclusion in one case and not the other...
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Tthat still doesn't address why it's okay to jump to a conclusion in one case and not the other...
No one's saying it's OK. He did something stupid w/the case w/the professor. He did the right thing in the case at Fort Hood. The poster who first brought this up clearly isn't capable of understanding that, and is basically assuming that he has all the facts in this case, and that they're right.
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No one's saying it's OK. He did something stupid w/the case w/the professor. He did the right thing in the case at Fort Hood. The poster who first brought this up clearly isn't capable of understanding that, and is basically assuming that he has all the facts in this case, and that they're right.
Actually, I think the person who brought it up did so because, in the case of the racist professor, the Golden Boy wasted no time in voicing his opinion, and none of the libs here took issue with it. In fact, a good number of libs here said the Golden Boy was acting correctly by voicing his opinion of the racist professor case, despite the fact that the Golden Boy didn't have the facts when he opened his big, fat fucking pie hole.

Let someone jump to a conclusion about a piece of shit muslim, though, and the libs get all upset.

It's hypocrisy in its' purest form...
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Actually, I think the person who brought it up did so because, in the case of the racist professor, the Golden Boy wasted no time in voicing his opinion, and none of the libs here took issue with it. In fact, a good number of libs here said the Golden Boy was acting correctly by voicing his opinion of the racist professor case, despite the fact that the Golden Boy didn't have the facts when he opened his big, fat fucking pie hole.

Let someone jump to a conclusion about a piece of shit muslim, though, and the libs get all upset.

It's hypocrisy in its' purest form...
Actually, what happened is that he was asked about it, then he commented. He shouldn't have, but he did.

He had to come out and make a statement w/the Ft. Hood case, given it's national and heinous nature, but I don't really see it as hypocrisy because he couldn't allow the situation to go unaddressed.
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Actually, what happened is that he was asked about it, then he commented. He shouldn't have, but he did.

He had to come out and make a statement w/the Ft. Hood case, given it's national and heinous nature, but I don't really see it as hypocrisy because he couldn't allow the situation to go unaddressed.
I agree.

And he should've done the same with the professor, too.

Not too many libs bitchin' about that, though...
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Also, IMO, not really comparable because of the relative consequences of both cases. In one, there's a real possibility of unrest and possible violence against a certain class of people (witness the increased security all over the country around mosques w/police presence, etc...) and one didn't have that.

I would expect, in a case like Fort Hood, any POTUS would come out and say exactly the same thing.
Ohh yea I forgot black people dont riot and destroy stuff when they feel cops have been racist..
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