i agree...and the death penalty should be abolished.

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I don't really know you well enough to judge your motives. However your conclusions cast doubt on them. No student of government or law would offer your suggestions about such an outcome. Wishing for a bloodless coup is simply desperate.

If Obama were ever to be unable to serve, Biden is president. The notion that he would be unable to serve because he was not born in Hawaii is utterly ridiculous.

It doesn't matter if Obama's candidacy turned out to be invalid, he was still sworn in as President. The most that can happen is he is forced to step down. This doesn't change the fact that he was President. You don't get to erase that. I'll say it one more time: Obama was President.

you would need to take that up with McDonnell or your legislator.

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lol i'm just yankin your chain, daddio.

edit: has mcdonnell already been sworn in? that's fast.

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"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

I see your point, but can't it be argued that since (hypothetically) his candidacy was invalid, then all that follows is also invalid, fruits of the poisoned tree so to speak?

Note to jschmidt You are right you don't know me well enough. My opinions may be colored by my politics, but my conclusions are based on my knowledge or lack of it. This is why I posed the question in the first place, to learn.

You could certainly argue that. You'd loose the argument, though. In fact, you've already lost it. Go back and read the other responses to your OP (you seem to be ignoring them, and only answering me).

might as well move in, Kaine has been MIA for months

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

OK fair enough. No, it couldn't be argued that Biden's place in line was forfeit using your fantastical set of facts. The ruling document is the US Constitution.

In 1947, Congress did so with the third variation of the act called, The Presidential Succession Act of 1947. Unless the Congress specifically impeached Joe Biden and specifically named John McCain as the successor in advance and it was upheld by the SCOTUS -- an utter fantasy -- there is simply no way John McCain could succeed Barack Obama.

You are probably right, but isn't it at least somewhat logical that if barack obama's candidacy was invalid, that he was never lawfully elected President and therefore there is no one duly elected to succeed George Bush?
The Constitution mandates an election on the first Tuesday following the first monday of November every 4 years. If you accept my premiss that there was no valid election, I think we've entered an area that isn't covered in the Constitution.

I know some of you consider the whole idea I've proposed preposterous. It may be, but I wanted to hear what you had to say about my musings, not what you thought of me.

This is what I would expect would happen.

However, assuming it was petitioned through the courts, I wouldn't put it past the rightwingers on the SCOTUS to appoint Sarah Palin as Commander-in-chief because otherwise the appointment of Biden would "threaten irreparable harm to petitioner Palin."

There was a valid election. Your hypothetical scenario only would mean the candidate was ineligible, however the election was still valid. The intent of the constitution is clear .... if the president is not able to fulfil his duties of the office (i.e. because of ineligibility), then the vice president is to become the next president.

Unless of course the SCOTUS puts Palin in office.

you could make that argument but it would still be wrong...hypothetically and otherwise.

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Those are perhaps the 2 most contradictory sentences/phrases I've ever seen placed back to back.

Let's not discuss whether he's illegitimate, let's just assume it to be so.

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Yes. For the purpose of the discussion. I thought that was clear. I didn't want it to turn into a discussion about where obama was born, only what happens if he was found ineligible.