Now, one of Obama's supporters here claims that this is a "work in progress" and we should just accept the continued unconstitutional suspension of Habeas Corpus because the President is just too busy with other things.

Sorry, but being "too busy" to follow the laws of the nation doesn't cut it.

Despite his campaign promise, Obama continues to willfully and deliberately engage in the unconstitutional practice of denying Habeas Corpus to these detainees. Just as when Bush was doing it, this is an unconscionable violation of the Constitution and is absolutely antithetical to our system of jurisprudence.

This is one area where those who attacked us on 9/11 truly won. We abandoned - and continue to desecrate - one of the most fundamental and vital components of our system of law. Shame on Bush for doing it, shame on Obama for continuing it, and shame on those who excuse it.

Matt

some of Bush's crimes take longer to set right than others

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Is it not nice to have Slick Willie II in office?

How often have we the people been told one thing and another is done to us?

Was there not the "Out of Nam in 68"
Who was that?
Where did that get us?

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Read HR143 get enlightment.

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Bush.......... my god is he still in?

What about the one before him?

Bottom line ,,, OBAMA SAID HE WAS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT....IS HE?






NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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New Government=one that the President likes a GOP idea but then the Staff puts that Idea in a very DEEP HOLE.

Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised

"enemy combatants" or "“law of war detainees"

whats the difference ?

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

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If Bush violating the Constitution is a "crime", would you not agree that Obama violating the same provision of the Constitution is also a crime?

How long does Obama get to continue this "crime" before you're done apologizing for it?

Matt

stroke of a pen is ALL it takes.

is prezbo too busy shooting hoops with the SS for this too ?

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

There are some important differences between Obama and Bush in regard to the detainees:

1) Some detainees will actually be tried.

2) There are no new "detainees" that have been captured under Obama's presidency. All the detainees for whom habeas corpus was suspended were captured under the Bush Administration.

3) Obama still has a chance to completely restore habeas corpus as his term has not yet ended.

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Ah, another poster here to excuse the continued violation of the law. I guess if you follow your buddy into a house to rob it, it's OK because he actually broke in?

If your neighbor kidnaps and child and hides them in your closet, and then you hold the child there for a year after your neighbor leaves, is that OK?

How long does one have to continue a crime before they're guilty of that crime? If he only detains them without trial for 2 more years, is that somehow not a violation of Habeas Corpus because he eventually got around to following the law?

Why would Obama Restore Habeas Corpus? it is in his best interest not to...

If he was going to restore it why has he not ALREADY DONE SO?

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New Government=one that the President likes a GOP idea but then the Staff puts that Idea in a very DEEP HOLE.

Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised

Do any of Obama's defenders here contend that the continued indefinite detention of these detainees is not a violation of the Constitution?

Thusfar, none of his supports have claimed Obama is complying with the law, just offered excuses for why we should ignore his willful violation. I was just wondering if any of them can make such a case?

Nope. No case can be made.

I'd like to know why he has let this continue. Is he scared of the fall out when they'll have to let some of these guys go, maybe?

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LBS...are you not aware that 195 trials happened while Bush was in office??

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To answer your questions: Horrible analogy, Horrible analogy, Zero seconds and No. But, none of this refutes any of the 3 points you replied to.


You're simply creating a strawman for contentions that I never made.

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OK, so let's clarify your contentions.

First, do you believe that Obama's continued indefinite detention of these detainees is a violation of the Constitution?

Second, can you quote the language in the Constitution that says the President can continue to violate Habeas Corpus if the prisoner in question was cpatured under another administration? I can't seem to find it.

Matt