Thread: I admire the USA for having such a great leader

Originally Posted by Dick Martin

Crippled the country??!?? He got handed 8 million laid off, most of America's home equity destroyed, Wall Street in a tailspin, and a Republican Senate that stopped everything.

And you say Obama crippled the country?

If I send you my mailing address, would you send me a supply of whatever it is you are smoking?

Unfortunately the Republican Senate didn't stop all of the stupidity he and his moronic Democratic congressional representatives tried to foist on us. Of course the Republicans aren't much better.

Businesses aren't exactly thrilled with the environment in this country, and people like you tell them THEY are the problem. Good incentive for them to do like so many others and pack up and head out as well.

Yes, he's done his best to kill this country. In a way we should thank him for speeding up the collapse I suppose.

Originally Posted by 9aces

Unfortunately the Republican Senate didn't stop all of the stupidity he and his moronic Democratic congressional representatives tried to foist on us. Of course the Republicans aren't much better.

Businesses aren't exactly thrilled with the environment in this country, and people like you tell them THEY are the problem. Good incentive for them to do like so many others and pack up and head out as well.

Yes, he's done his best to kill this country. In a way we should thank him for speeding up the collapse I suppose.

Too bad it is your opinion and not fact.

Originally Posted by 9aces

Well let's see, after this year he'll have added more debt in 3 years than Bush did in 8.

Obama has told you that he can order you to buy any product the government orders you to buy, and you have no choice....and you cheered when he said being a slave to the government was good.

And you can not believe something, but the numbers tell you the truth. A lot of people don't want to believe the truth when it's inconvenient.

And as far as bringing us out of the disastrous situation...looks like it's worse...not better.

Unless you like bigger, more intrusive government Obama's done nothing whatsoever to be proud of.

I wonder how many people would give up today's situation to go back to October 2008 situation?

By the way. . let's not forget that the first stimulus was initiated by Bush (the best thing he had done in 8 years!), and that Obama's budget only started late in 2009!

The current deficit is partially related to programs established to get us out of the recession created by Bush and his cronies, and to the terrible economic slump that Bush left us with. It is also related to the continued wars . . .also began by Bush, and the interests on the loans related to the deficit under Bush.

Yes, deficits snowball. . .but the snow ball didn't start under Obama. . .it just grew. . . as snowballs will if they are not stopped by, for exemple, a raise in taxes, especially raise in taxes to the very wealthy.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

You are generalizing. Actually, President Obama's approval polls are still in the high 40's. . .in spite of all the hate propaganda that is being spread by the Right Wing media.

President Obama has accomplished more in 2 years than most President in 4 years. . .in spite of the "nay sayer" Republicans in Congress.

Sometime, one is so close to the tree that one doesn't see the forest, especially if one has tunnel vision.

Put the crack pipe down and walk away from it. Accomplisments? that is rich!

Originally Posted by chassisman

Put the crack pipe down and walk away from it. Accomplisments? that is rich!

If I'm not mistaken. . .you're the one with the pipe here!!!

Originally Posted by Sadanie

If I'm not mistaken. . .you're the one with the pipe here!!!

Yeah, but mines a Kaywoodie brand, made of aged Italian briar.

Good one.......

Originally Posted by chassisman

Yeah, but mines a Kaywoodie brand, made of aged Italian briar.

Good one.......

I'm glad you like it. . .but you see. . . I don't smoke, I don't do drugs, and I don't really like the smell of tobacco!

Originally Posted by Sadanie

So. . .I do not believe that your earlier statement specified that "Obama was a leftist 30 years ago while a Freshman in College," but on the contrary it implied that the quote from his book was much more recent and stated his position at the time he wrote the book. . .which was very misleading.

When and where did he disassociate himself with the leftists elements? When did he disavow such philosophies? When did he write the book? I don't imagine you'll get the point but I'm pretty darned sure he's never said "In my youth I absorbed liberal ideologies that were tempered later in life to make me the centrist I now am."

The man's a leftist or at least has gone far in life pretending to be one.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

I wonder how many people would give up today's situation to go back to October 2008 situation?

Would people believe me If I said...all this will do nothing to help the middle class in the long run, housing values will drop and stay low and millions will lose their jobs and stand little to no chance of find a job with equal financial benefit?

By the way. . let's not forget that the first stimulus was initiated by Bush (the best thing he had done in 8 years!),

One of the worst things he did, the first proposed stimulus was rejected by congress.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

I wonder how many people would give up today's situation to go back to October 2008 situation?
By the way. . let's not forget that the first stimulus was initiated by Bush (the best thing he had done in 8 years!), and that Obama's budget only started late in 2009!

The current deficit is partially related to programs established to get us out of the recession created by Bush and his cronies, and to the terrible economic slump that Bush left us with. It is also related to the continued wars . . .also began by Bush, and the interests on the loans related to the deficit under Bush.

Yes, deficits snowball. . .but the snow ball didn't start under Obama. . .it just grew. . . as snowballs will if they are not stopped by, for exemple, a raise in taxes, especially raise in taxes to the very wealthy.

Lets examine that, we would be getting back over 3 trillion in debt, and we would not be adding 1.5 trillion in debt every yr. We would be under 8% unemployment not over 9%. We would not have Obamacare that was shoved down our throat and adding to our national debt and being challenged in the the Supreme Court being pushed by 26 states. We would still have the Democrat controlled House and Senate that took over on 07 which on their watch is when the economy began to tank thanks to the Democrat controlled congress. We would not have a Trillion dollar failed stimulus. How am I doing so far?

You are doing pretty lousy if imparting truth is a goal for you.

You are doing pretty well if your goal is to be sure Republicans don't have to take personal responsibility for their deeds.

Originally Posted by Dick Martin

You are doing pretty lousy if imparting truth is a goal for you.

You are doing pretty well if your goal is to be sure Republicans don't have to take personal responsibility for their deeds.

You know Dick, the way I see it, and the way history writes it, is what ever happens on a presidents watch is his / her problem. It is as simple as that. All the stats are calculated from the day that person took office. We did not have Obamacare under Bush. This is all Obama's doing. If you want to go back in time then you have to say the Democrat controlled congress caused the meltdown, because they controlled congress. I mean how many yrs to do you to go back. No need to answer, I already know, back to 1930 to 1940. Hey I see you got a kick out of my post going back to 08

Originally Posted by Forplay

You know Dick, the way I see it, and the way history writes it, is what ever happens on a presidents watch is his / her problem. It is as simple as that. All the stats are calculated from the day that person took office. We did not have Obamacare under Bush. This is all Obama's doing. If you want to go back in time then you have to say the Democrat controlled congress caused the meltdown, because they controlled congress. I mean how many yrs to do you to go back. No need to answer, I already know, back to 1930 to 1940. Hey I see you got a kick out of my post going back to 08

So. . .finally someone is admitting that 9/11 was ALL BUSH's fault!!!

And the decline in job creation was ALL BUSH's fault!

And the Bank and Wall Street crash of 2008 were ALL BUSH's fault!

Well. . .that's progress! :rolleyes: