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    How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Okay, since most level headed people realize that Romney will inevitably lose to Obama, we can safely move onto ruminating on Obama's second term. Now that he's got Health Care, Iraq, Osama, being Bush II, and a near death economy out of the way, what do you think his big focuses will be? Of course, he'll probably still stick to the "jobs" thing, since that's still a necessity at this point. He'll probably also have to figure something out for Afghanistan over the next four years, which should be interesting. I'd also like to see how the whole "more targeted, more precise military" thing continues to unfold. If he continues to do crazy shit like with the recent hostage rescue, he's bound to authorize a mission that screws up eventually, which will have it's fair share of political fallout. What about his relationship with Pakistan? That doesn't seem to be going too well, seems like something is going to have to change within the next four years or so. I'm guessing he may strip a few more civil liberties away while he's at it, since that seems to be a popular trend with presidents this millenia.

    So, what are you looking forward to in Obama's second term? What will his biggest challenges be? What are you most afraid of?
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    I'm mostly afraid of the pyshco-right gaining power after his second term. People rant about the panderers and frauds in Washington but they are only a pale hint of what's actually out there.

    I'm also worried about the prospect of a saint Obama who may get killed by fringe elements on the extreme left who may see far more value in a dead Obama than they could ever get from the technocratic oligarch he really is.

    The blows to freedom and liberty either of those scenarios could create are far worse then the DMV running healthcare nation-wide.

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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    I forsee Bush II's fourth term vis a vis the war on terror in Obama's second term. If he succeeds in skyrocketing energy prices we probably won't have another Democrat in the White House for at least another generation.

    His second term is hardly a given, imo. Obama has a record to defend this time around.

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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    Okay, since most level headed people realize that Romney will inevitably lose to Obama, we can safely move onto ruminating on Obama's second term. Now that he's got Health Care, Iraq, Osama, being Bush II, and a near death economy out of the way, what do you think his big focuses will be? Of course, he'll probably still stick to the "jobs" thing, since that's still a necessity at this point. He'll probably also have to figure something out for Afghanistan over the next four years, which should be interesting. I'd also like to see how the whole "more targeted, more precise military" thing continues to unfold. If he continues to do crazy shit like with the recent hostage rescue, he's bound to authorize a mission that screws up eventually, which will have it's fair share of political fallout. What about his relationship with Pakistan? That doesn't seem to be going too well, seems like something is going to have to change within the next four years or so. I'm guessing he may strip a few more civil liberties away while he's at it, since that seems to be a popular trend with presidents this millenia.

    So, what are you looking forward to in Obama's second term? What will his biggest challenges be? What are you most afraid of?
    If the country is just dead flat unlucky or stupid, we'll get Owebama and a Democratic House and Senate. Should speed up the country's collapse by at least a decade.
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by darth omar View Post
    I forsee Bush II's fourth term vis a vis the war on terror in Obama's second term. If he succeeds in skyrocketing energy prices we probably won't have another Democrat in the White House for at least another generation.

    His second term is hardly a given, imo. Obama has a record to defend this time around.
    What do you mean "succeeds in skyrocketing energy prices"? Seems like that'd be a failure to me. Unless, of course, you're one to subscribe to conspiracy theories.
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by 9aces View Post
    If the country is just dead flat unlucky or stupid, we'll get Owebama and a Democratic House and Senate. Should speed up the country's collapse by at least a decade.
    Why would the country collapse? How would that happen? Sounds like you're just spewing political diarrhea to me. I hate Santorum, but even if the guy somehow managed to get four terms as President, I'd never offer something as empty as "herp derp, the country will collapse!" Countries, including America, are far more resilient than you give them credit for.
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Shit, I'd vote for an imaginary Republican, too. It's a shame they'll be running Romney.
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    Okay, since most level headed people realize that Romney will inevitably lose to Obama, we can safely move onto ruminating on Obama's second term. Now that he's got Health Care, Iraq, Osama, being Bush II, and a near death economy out of the way, what do you think his big focuses will be? Of course, he'll probably still stick to the "jobs" thing, since that's still a necessity at this point. He'll probably also have to figure something out for Afghanistan over the next four years, which should be interesting. I'd also like to see how the whole "more targeted, more precise military" thing continues to unfold. If he continues to do crazy shit like with the recent hostage rescue, he's bound to authorize a mission that screws up eventually, which will have it's fair share of political fallout. What about his relationship with Pakistan? That doesn't seem to be going too well, seems like something is going to have to change within the next four years or so. I'm guessing he may strip a few more civil liberties away while he's at it, since that seems to be a popular trend with presidents this millenia.

    So, what are you looking forward to in Obama's second term? What will his biggest challenges be? What are you most afraid of?
    ahoy Speakeasy,

    i think Mr. Obama will continue to make tiny nicks and dents, haltin' progress, on matters that the left hold dear, while sailin' onward in his overall moderate-conservative mindset. with the sped up cycle 'o elections, he'll have 'bout one year, maybe a wee bit more, 'fore he'd be considered a lame duck - so i see Mr. Obama as havin' a very small window to accomplish a few things.

    1 - Tax reform, the number one isssue that he must contend with - me own hope is that the Bush era temporary tax relief ends once and fer all.

    2 - Foreign Policy...i figure Mr. Obama will continue the active use 'o drone attacks in the neverendin' "war on terror", whilst continuein' his covert war in Yemen. Isreal will get its usual largesse from the taxpayers, with zero progress on a peace solution in the Middle East. essentially, more Neocon policy from Mr. Obama, minus the provocative Neocon rhetoric. Pakistan will see the same carrot and stick dynamic, meanin' we'll want'm to let us do our thing militarily, and we'll continue to pay'm buckets 'o monies fer coorporatin'.

    3 - the Environment....i don't expect anythin' from Mr. Obama on this front.

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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate View Post
    ahoy Speakeasy,

    i think Mr. Obama will continue to make tiny nicks and dents, haltin' progress, on matters that the left hold dear, while sailin' onward in his overall moderate-conservative mindset. with the sped up cycle 'o elections, he'll have 'bout one year, maybe a wee bit more, 'fore he'd be considered a lame duck - so i see Mr. Obama as havin' a very small window to accomplish a few things.

    1 - Tax reform, the number one isssue that he must contend with - me own hope is that the Bush era temporary tax relief ends once and fer all.

    2 - Foreign Policy...i figure Mr. Obama will continue the active use 'o drone attacks in the neverendin' "war on terror", whilst continuein' his covert war in Yemen. Isreal will get its usual largesse from the taxpayers, with zero progress on a peace solution in the Middle East. essentially, more Neocon policy from Mr. Obama, minus the provocative Neocon rhetoric. Pakistan will see the same carrot and stick dynamic, meanin' we'll want'm to let us do our thing militarily, and we'll continue to pay'm buckets 'o monies fer coorporatin'.

    3 - the Environment....i don't expect anythin' from Mr. Obama on this front.

    - MeadHallPirate
    So, essentially you expect the "same ol', same ol'"? I guess I can't argue with that.
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    Okay, since most level headed people realize that Romney will inevitably lose to Obama, we can safely move onto ruminating on Obama's second term. Now that he's got Health Care, Iraq, Osama, being Bush II, and a near death economy out of the way, what do you think his big focuses will be? Of course, he'll probably still stick to the "jobs" thing, since that's still a necessity at this point. He'll probably also have to figure something out for Afghanistan over the next four years, which should be interesting. I'd also like to see how the whole "more targeted, more precise military" thing continues to unfold. If he continues to do crazy shit like with the recent hostage rescue, he's bound to authorize a mission that screws up eventually, which will have it's fair share of political fallout. What about his relationship with Pakistan? That doesn't seem to be going too well, seems like something is going to have to change within the next four years or so. I'm guessing he may strip a few more civil liberties away while he's at it, since that seems to be a popular trend with presidents this millenia.

    So, what are you looking forward to in Obama's second term? What will his biggest challenges be? What are you most afraid of?
    If that worthless piece of dog shit sees a second term, we can essentially kiss this country goodbye. As it stands now, were the bastard to kill himself tomorrow, it is going to take the better part of a decade to stabilize the damage he's caused - let alone begin to fix it.
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by EricOKC View Post
    If that worthless piece of dog shit sees a second term, we can essentially kiss this country goodbye. As it stands now, were the bastard to kill himself tomorrow, it is going to take the better part of a decade to stabilize the damage he's caused - let alone begin to fix it.
    Well, it's not like anything would be substantially different if Romney won (but I guess we'll never know). So perhaps we're screwed no matter what?

    And for the second time, why do conservatives keep hinting at the end of the country? Do they have little faith in the USA? Our country has seen and survived far worse than a mediocre president...

    It's exactly how liberals were saying Bush was the "end of this country". And yet, here we are. Still a country. But, I suppose it was wrong when they said it.
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    If Romney wins the Republican nomination it'll be a godsend for Obama. It would mean that vastly superior candidates to Romney didn't make it through an election season whose victor was determined by the elitists in the Republican party.

    However things are starting to indicate an uptick in employment numbers, and if it continues on through Obama's term then Obama's successor will also be in a good position.

    Quote Originally Posted by EricOKC View Post
    If that worthless piece of dog shit sees a second term, we can essentially kiss this country goodbye.
    When this nation "collapses" on the morning of November 8th, will you promise to be out of this country by November 9th?
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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    Shit, I'd vote for an imaginary Republican, too. It's a shame they'll be running Romney.
    Romney's as close to an imaginary Republican as you can get though. He's quite the empty suit for which Republicans can project their fantasies into.

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    Re: How Will Obama's Second Term Look?

    Quote Originally Posted by AjaxPress View Post
    Romney's as close to an imaginary Republican as you can get though. He's quite the empty suit for which Republicans can project their fantasies into.
    No way, my imaginary Republican can fly and shoot lasers and has boobs. Way better.
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