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  • Mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Not sure what this nuts motive was.

    Not a lot known about the man - yet.

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    A gunman on the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas Strip casino opened fire on an outdoor music festival, killing at least 50 people including police officers and wounding more than 200 in the largest mass shooting in U.S. history, officials said Monday.

    Authorities have identified the suspected gunman as Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada, who was a registered guest atthe Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino across the street from the concert site.

    Officers confronted the suspect on the 32nd floor of the hotel, and he was killed, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said.

    Lombardo said they believe this was a lone wolf attack.

    The two slain off-duty officers were attending the concert, Lombardo said. Another off-duty officer was in critical condition and another was wounded, Lombardo said.


    http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/las-v.../02/id/816975/

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    4: Shooting not believed to be linked to terrorism Paddock has no known connection to terrorism, CNBC News reported, adding that police have not identified the shooting as a terrorist attack.

    5: Attacker believed to be a lone wolf The Mirror noted that Paddock reportedly acted alone and is not believed to have any connection to militant groups. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said police were uncertain what Paddocks motives were for the killing or what his belief system was.


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    http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/6-thi.../02/id/817013/

  • #2
    Auto weapon. I was up in the wee hours here, and saw a video of it on you tube, where you could hear the guy shooting into the crowd and the people running, falling getting killed. Sounded like an M 16 on rock and roll to me. Except, he was not shooting in bursts, but kept his finger down. Tragic. Largest mass shooting ever in america. First time I ever heard of a full auto being used. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

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    • #3
      From early reports (may nog be reliable) he had 2 wepon firing platforms setup in the hotel room to be able to sustain fire at range but no report on actual weapons used.

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      • #4
        Whats disgusting is all the creeps and trolls that come out on the net, places like facebook, to start flame wars when something like this happens. Such nasty and gross people out there. Make sure to stay armed, these creeps prove how necessary it is !


        Some new information & numbers coming out

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        At Least 58 Killed as Gunman Opens Fire at Las Vegas Concert

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        A gunman perched on the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas hotel-casino unleashed a hail of bullets on an outdoor country music festival below, killing at least 58 people as tens of thousands of concertgoers screamed and ran for their lives, officials said Monday. It was the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

        At least 515 others were injured in the Sunday night attack, authorities said.

        SWAT teams using explosives stormed the gunman's hotel room in the sleek, gold-colored glass skyscraper and found he had killed himself, authorities said. He had as many as 10 guns with him, including rifles, they said.

        ............

        In the Mideast, the Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attack and said the gunman was "a soldier" who had converted to Islam months ago. But it provided no evidence.


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        http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/US-L.../02/id/817044/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
          Whats disgusting is all the creeps and trolls that come out on the net, places like facebook, to start flame wars when something like this happens. Such nasty and gross people out there. Make sure to stay armed, these creeps prove how necessary it is !


          Some new information & numbers coming out

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          At Least 58 Killed as Gunman Opens Fire at Las Vegas Concert

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          A gunman perched on the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas hotel-casino unleashed a hail of bullets on an outdoor country music festival below, killing at least 58 people as tens of thousands of concertgoers screamed and ran for their lives, officials said Monday. It was the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

          At least 515 others were injured in the Sunday night attack, authorities said.

          SWAT teams using explosives stormed the gunman's hotel room in the sleek, gold-colored glass skyscraper and found he had killed himself, authorities said. He had as many as 10 guns with him, including rifles, they said.

          ............

          In the Mideast, the Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attack and said the gunman was "a soldier" who had converted to Islam months ago. But it provided no evidence.


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          http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/US-L.../02/id/817044/
          It's too bad that more people in the crowd didn't bring their automatic weapons to return fire.

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          • #6
            People get more and more interested in firearms when there's talk of gun control happening.

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            Las Vegas Horror Drives All-Too-Predictable Gun Stock Rally
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            Gun makers have made it clear they see a connection between the partisan politics, high-profile shootings, and their business. Concerns about presidential, congressional, and state elections and legislature and policy shifts resulting from those elections can affect the demand for our products. In addition, speculation surrounding increased gun control at the federal, state, and local level and heightened fears of terrorism and crime can affect consumer demand, American Outdoor Brands wrote in its annual report this year, citing the impact of news events, including terrorism on gun buying habits.

            http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/Inves.../02/id/817123/

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            But these things shouldn't always drag into a discussion about guns and gun control.

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            • #7
              .... and yet they do.

              Heeeeere comes Murphy !!- not Johnny, sorry

              A democrat gets motivated !

              Of course he's wanting to do the impossible..

              Not ban guns ! That's possible.

              But HE wants "Congress to "get off its ass and do something" !!! That's hilarious LMAO

              Term limits term limits term limits ..............

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              Murphy had pushed to try to get gun control legislation passed after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in his state of Connecticut, the website noted. And he staged a filibuster last June to protest the Senate's lack of action on gun control legislation, according to the Hill.


              "Nowhere but America do horrific large-scale mass shootings happen with this degree of regularity," he said Monday. "Last night's massacre may go down as the deadliest in our nation's history, but already this year there have been more mass shootings than days in the year."


              [ That's an interesting statement ]

              "This must stop. It is positively infuriating that my colleagues in Congress are so afraid of the gun industry that they pretend there aren't public policy responses to this epidemic. There are, and the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.

              "It's time for Congress to get off its ass and do something," Murphy said
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              ...... comments below article

              Mr. John
              It has pretty much been established that the weapons used were illegal already. What does Murphy suggest be done? Make penalties for the use of a gun in a crime of any sort be so severe that it gets the perpetrator off the street instead of the revolving door that liberals like to use to keep their supporters out of prison. ??

              http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/chri.../02/id/817088/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                People get more and more interested in firearms when there's talk of gun control happening.

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                Las Vegas Horror Drives All-Too-Predictable Gun Stock Rally
                ...
                Gun makers have made it clear they see a connection between the partisan politics, high-profile shootings, and their business. Concerns about presidential, congressional, and state elections and legislature and policy shifts resulting from those elections can affect the demand for our products. In addition, speculation surrounding increased gun control at the federal, state, and local level and heightened fears of terrorism and crime can affect consumer demand, American Outdoor Brands wrote in its annual report this year, citing the impact of news events, including terrorism on gun buying habits.

                http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/Inves.../02/id/817123/

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                But these things shouldn't always drag into a discussion about guns and gun control.
                Maybe the shooter was an angel sent by god to punish the people of sin city.Don't rule it out those of you with little faith.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  Maybe the shooter was an angel sent by god to punish the people of sin city.Don't rule it out those of you with little faith.
                  You're a closet Christian I see.

                  They say it's Ok to be gay, come out of the closet. It's Ok to be Christian too ! Come out !

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                  • #10
                    While we're talking rumors, here's one heard from the great gossip fence known as the internet: The shooter may have been deep in gambling debt. Could be his target wasn't just the people gathered at the concert. The other target could be a casino.

                    Another one: Shooter's father was a violent bank robber, on FBI wanted list several decades ago. If there is a genetic component to serious mental illness (already one established for some forms of schizophrenia), this could play a role. Link:
                    http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/fbi-las...terror-groups/
                    Last edited by radcentr; 10-02-2017, 01:11 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I imagine we'll be seeing a lot of theorizing about why this person did what he did.

                      We may never know.. ? I don't know, it was obviously very pre-planned, premeditated etc. But why ?

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                      Vegas Tragedy, Shooter's Motives Remain a Mystery

                      A 64-year-old man armed with multiple machine guns strafed an outdoor country music festival in Las Vegas from a high-rise hotel window on Sunday, slaughtering at least 58 people in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history before killing himself.

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                      Police on Monday identified the gunman as Stephen Paddock, who lived in a retirement community in Mesquite, Nevada. They said they believed he acted alone and did not know why he attacked the crowd. The Islamic State militant group claimed responsibility for the massacre, but U.S. officials said there was no evidence of that.

                      Police said Paddock had no criminal record. The gunman killed himself before police entered the hotel room from where he was firing, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo told reporters.

                      "We have no idea what his belief system was," Lombardo said. "I can't get into the mind of a psychopath."

                      Federal officials said there was no evidence to link Paddock to militant organizations.

                      "We have determined to this point no connection with an international terrorist group," Aaron Rouse, special agent in charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) field office in Las Vegas, told reporters.

                      U.S. officials discounted the claim of responsibility for the attack made by Islamic State in a statement.

                      "We advise caution on jumping to conclusions before the facts are in," CIA spokesman Jonathan Liu said in an email.



                      http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/vega.../02/id/817194/

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                      • #12
                        Some woman was telling people in the crowd they were all going to die. This was 45 minutes before the shooting started. She was taken out of there for upsetting people. I wonder if they got her name.

                        http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...Marilou-Danley

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                        • #13
                          I could ask a lot of questions here. How do we know that Paddock was actually the gunman and not simply the patsy in the case like Oswald? Where did he get multiple machine guns? How did he get multiple machine guns to that room? I don't trust anyone anymore. This could very well have just been another event staged by those pushing gun control and the effort to disarm America. Set up some unknown person, hold him in a hotel room while a professional shoots up a concert, kill him when the police arrive and now we have a mass murder, caused by guns.

                          Take a close look at Sandy Hook. No bodies were ever seen by the public. The school had supposedly been abandoned due to a flood years earlier. Lots of questions there. As I said, don't trust anyone in our government.

                          Do you suppose that Hillary is not being prosecuted because she knows too much?
                          EXPERTS: Las Vegas Mass Shooting Is VERY STRANGE Unlike Anything Suspect Bought 30 WEAPONS!

                          http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ht-30-weapons/
                          Last edited by OldmanDan; 10-02-2017, 03:51 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                            I could ask a lot of questions here. How do we know that Paddock was actually the gunman and not simply the patsy in the case like Oswald? Where did he get multiple machine guns? How did he get multiple machine guns to that room? I don't trust anyone anymore. This could very well have just been another event staged by those pushing gun control and the effort to disarm America. Set up some unknown person, hold him in a hotel room while a professional shoots up a concert, kill him when the police arrive and now we have a mass murder, caused by guns.

                            Take a close look at Sandy Hook. No bodies were ever seen by the public. The school had supposedly been abandoned due to a flood years earlier. Lots of questions there. As I said, don't trust anyone in our government.

                            Do you suppose that Hillary is not being prosecuted because she knows too much?
                            EXPERTS: Las Vegas Mass Shooting Is VERY STRANGE Unlike Anything Suspect Bought 30 WEAPONS!

                            http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ht-30-weapons/
                            Yeah I'm sure the anti gun lobby probably put this guy up to it. They didn't have to bother because a gunman could shoot every person in Nevada and the republican congress would never do anything about gun control.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post
                              Yeah I'm sure the anti gun lobby probably put this guy up to it. They didn't have to bother because a gunman could shoot every person in Nevada and the republican congress would never do anything about gun control.
                              Republicans aren't capable, you know that.. Of anything.

                              In the end, we won't know for awhile what or why this happened. It may not even BE about "gun control" or lack thereof.

                              Unfortunately, it will be some time before we learn anything worthwhile to form an honest and good judgment about it.

                              In the mean-time, people will argue and fight about this - without knowing the full story.

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