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  • Originally posted by redrover View Post

    You can take this to the bank. There will be absolutely no arming of teachers. Sooner or later Twinkle toes Trump is going to have to come back to earth. Right now it's hard enough to get school districts to pay for paper let alone weapons training for teachers. I see that Twinkly wants to arm 40% of teachers which would mean we would have more armed teachers in this country than armed police officers. Brilliant.
    Your solution of calling the president names and making grandiose claims & predictions, is going to accomplish nothing.

    Of that, we can be 100 % certain of.

    In the mean-time, we have people who want their kids to be safe when they go to school.

    Believing that these people are interested in hateful lies and rhetoric about the president, the NRA and gun owners VS possible proposed solutions to this issue, is foolish.

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    • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

      Your solution of calling the president names and making grandiose claims & predictions, is going to accomplish nothing.

      Of that, we can be 100 % certain of.

      In the mean-time, we have people who want their kids to be safe when they go to school.

      Believing that these people are interested in hateful lies and rhetoric about the president, the NRA and gun owners VS possible proposed solutions to this issue, is foolish.
      Hateful lies about the president? Never. OK you go ahead and believe we are going to arm teachers and that would solve anything even if it happened? I think you should start getting your prayers ready for the next batch of victims. I think we've got time for at least one more shooting before schools let out for the summer.The only solution coming from the NRA is buy more guns.

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      • Originally posted by redrover View Post
        Hateful lies about the president? Never. OK you go ahead and believe we are going to arm teachers and that would solve anything even if it happened?I think you should start getting your prayers ready for the next batch of victims. I think we've got time for at least one more shooting before schools let out for the summer.The only solution coming from the NRA is buy more guns.
        Still no solutions or honesty, just bombastic and insulting bullshirt. Mocking Christian people while you're at it ...

        ... so what's your point ? Besides your belief that you're the one with all the solutions....

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        • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

          Still no solutions or honesty, just bombastic and insulting bullshirt. Mocking Christian people while you're at it ...

          ... so what's your point ? Besides your belief that you're the one with all the solutions....
          I don't have all the solutions but I have a pretty good idea which solutions are pure Trump BS and arming teachers is at the top of that list. It's a shame that Trump got bone spurs. We might have won that old war if we'd had a guy like him. Somebody who would charge machine guns without even a pistol. Sadly he is a one of a kind we don't have many teachers with his kind of courage.

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          • Originally posted by redrover View Post
            I don't have all the solutions but I have a pretty good idea which solutions are pure Trump BS and arming teachers is at the top of that list. It's a shame that Trump got bone spurs. We might have won that old war if we'd had a guy like him. Somebody who would charge machine guns without even a pistol. Sadly he is a one of a kind we don't have many teachers with his kind of courage.
            But say you DID have a solution.

            If Trump came along and said that his idea was the same one you thought of, you'd BE AGAINST IT because trump was for it LOL

            It doesn't matter if this man has a good idea or solution, you're going to oppose it, just because he's for it !

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            • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

              But say you DID have a solution.

              If Trump came along and said that his idea was the same one you thought of, you'd BE AGAINST IT because trump was for it LOL

              It doesn't matter if this man has a good idea or solution, you're going to oppose it, just because he's for it !
              Sadly president doesn't have a great record as a problem solver. his strength is assigning blame when things go wrong.He can tell you the names of all the people who dropped the ball in Florida.

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              • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                Sadly president doesn't have a great record as a problem solver. his strength is assigning blame when things go wrong.He can tell you the names of all the people who dropped the ball in Florida.
                But it's his fault, he's a dumb-ass and the gun free school zones idea was a great idea !

                Isn't that right ?

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                • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                  But it's his fault, he's a dumb-ass and the gun free school zones idea was a great idea !

                  Isn't that right ?
                  It's not a dumb idea if you enforce it and deny access to school grounds to people carrying guns.. I see that Trump plans to distribute guns with silencers to school librarians. Seriously I think there was enough documentation on Cruz I think many people would agree that he is the kind of person who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

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                  • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    It's not a dumb idea if you enforce it and deny access to school grounds to people carrying guns.. I see that Trump plans to distribute guns with silencers to school librarians. Seriously I think there was enough documentation on Cruz I think many people would agree that he is the kind of person who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
                    So tell me, how did this munkey-nut cruz punk have guns then ?

                    Why was he allowed into school with a gun to shoot a bunch of kids...

                    ... AFTER 30 OR 40 CALLS TO THE POLICE ABOUT HIM OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS ?

                    &

                    AFTER THE FBI WAS NOTIFIED OF THE DANGER HE PRESENTED ????

                    ... and you think we should rely on MORE laws written on some paper to stop these events ?
                    You think we should rely on law enforcement - EVEN THE FBI ????????????????????????

                    . . . because they're so reliable and helpful and can always be counted on to be right there in an instant -rollseyes-

                    The results we just saw were 17 dead kids. and your suggestion is;

                    ".. I think many people would agree that he is the kind of person who shouldn't be allowed to own guns."

                    I think we can agree on that !

                    But you want to rely on the numb-nuts in law enforcement and the FBI etc ? You want to rely on the numb-nuts in D.C. to pen some "laws" that you imagine will magically stop the next nut ?

                    Fantasy is fun, but dead kids ... kinda suck ! Stop fantasizing.

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                    • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                      So tell me, how did this munkey-nut cruz punk have guns then ?

                      Why was he allowed into school with a gun to shoot a bunch of kids...

                      ... AFTER 30 OR 40 CALLS TO THE POLICE ABOUT HIM OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS ?

                      &

                      AFTER THE FBI WAS NOTIFIED OF THE DANGER HE PRESENTED ????

                      ... and you think we should rely on MORE laws written on some paper to stop these events ?
                      You think we should rely on law enforcement - EVEN THE FBI ????????????????????????

                      . . . because they're so reliable and helpful and can always be counted on to be right there in an instant -rollseyes-

                      The results we just saw were 17 dead kids. and your suggestion is;

                      ".. I think many people would agree that he is the kind of person who shouldn't be allowed to own guns."

                      I think we can agree on that !

                      But you want to rely on the numb-nuts in law enforcement and the FBI etc ? You want to rely on the numb-nuts in D.C. to pen some "laws" that you imagine will magically stop the next nut ?

                      Fantasy is fun, but dead kids ... kinda suck ! Stop fantasizing.
                      I guess you are right there are no laws that can reign in eighteen year olds. We are at their mercy.

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                      • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                        I guess you are right there are no laws that can reign in eighteen year olds. We are at their mercy.
                        Nuts come in all ages, races, sizes and sexes LOL Wish it was only 18 year olds, wouldn't that make things a bit simpler

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                        • John Kennedy weighs in on the issue. Says we need idiot control, sounds about right..but

                          Sure, idiot control is great, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WILLING AND ABLE TO CONTROL THEM.

                          ...or who is the idiot ?

                          He points out there are plenty of laws already out there that should have prevented this. ... but laws aren't magic so... they didn't.

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                          What the United States needs to help stop the epidemic of gun violence is "more idiot control," Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., said Tuesday.

                          ....

                          "I don't think we need more gun control laws," Kennedy said. "I think we need more idiot control. Look what happened here. There were what, 40 different calls placed on law enforcement authorities?"

                          "I'm talking [about] the people who do this, some of whom are mentally ill. And to them I would say, OK, misuse of the word idiot. But I'm talking about other people," Kennedy said. "We just automatically assume some of these folks are mentally ill. I happen to believe there is evil in the world."

                          Kennedy noted there are plenty of tools and laws already on the books that should prevent mass shootings like the one in Florida from taking place.

                          He said the accused Florida shooter, who reportedly confessed to the crime, is "an idiot."



                          https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joh.../27/id/845818/




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                          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                            John Kennedy weighs in on the issue. Says we need idiot control, sounds about right..but

                            Sure, idiot control is great, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WILLING AND ABLE TO CONTROL THEM.

                            ...or who is the idiot ?

                            He points out there are plenty of laws already out there that should have prevented this. ... but laws aren't magic so... they didn't.

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                            What the United States needs to help stop the epidemic of gun violence is "more idiot control," Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., said Tuesday.

                            ....

                            "I don't think we need more gun control laws," Kennedy said. "I think we need more idiot control. Look what happened here. There were what, 40 different calls placed on law enforcement authorities?"

                            "I'm talking [about] the people who do this, some of whom are mentally ill. And to them I would say, OK, misuse of the word idiot. But I'm talking about other people," Kennedy said. "We just automatically assume some of these folks are mentally ill. I happen to believe there is evil in the world."

                            Kennedy noted there are plenty of tools and laws already on the books that should prevent mass shootings like the one in Florida from taking place.

                            He said the accused Florida shooter, who reportedly confessed to the crime, is "an idiot."



                            https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joh.../27/id/845818/



                            If idiots can't buy guns who's going to buy them? I think Connecticut's ban on arms sales to people on the no fly list is a sensible measure.

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                            • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                              If idiots can't buy guns who's going to buy them?I think Connecticut's ban on arms sales to people on the no fly list is a sensible measure.
                              This idiot bought one and shot up a school killing 17 people. Was he able to "legally" buy it ? I don't see how. It shows us how powerless "laws" are in the real world.

                              Yes, I think a ban on arms sales to people on the no fly list is sensible too. Is it effective ? Not sure, but it's worth taking note that we have armed "air marshals" on planes now.

                              Questions we should be asking..

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                              Plenty of other individuals and groups are being blamed for the shooting – the NRA, Republicans, and President Trump. They were not in the school that day. They did not shoot anyone. Nikolas Cruz did the shooting. Why isn't he being blamed?

                              What about the police officers who remained outside or hid behind cars during the shooting? Or the flippant Sheriff Scott Israel, deflecting blame as skillfully as Barack Obama did for eight years? Why is blame being directed at those who had nothing to do with the shooting?

                              Where is the blame over the Obama-Holder Justice Department, paying schools to hide or overlook crime, in an effort to improve arrest and incarceration statistics?

                              The NRA contributed $1.1 million to candidates in the 2016 election cycle, according to Opensecrets.org. The left says the "Republican Party is owned by the NRA." Is that so? One million isn't that much – unless you believe that the Russians influenced the 2016 election by spending that amount on Twitter and Facebook ads. Is anyone asking about the really big money?

                              Fahr LLC, owned by left-wing climate warrior Tom Steyer, contributed $90 million in 2016. The American Federation of Teachers gave $31 million, and the National Education Association contributed $30 million. The NRA are a bunch of cheapskates in comparison. Which groups are really buying influence in Congress?

                              What has Big Education done for school safety, other than making schools "gun free zones," turning them into target-rich environments? Not only are they not protecting their students, but they are also leaving their union dues-paying teachers vulnerable in school shootings. Why doesn't Big Education care about teachers and students?

                              Why do these shootings almost always happen in "gun free zones"? Would a bank or jewelry store ever declare itself a "gun-free zone"? What about any government building in the country? Does this make sense?

                              Members of Congress bray about the evils of guns and how arming teachers is a bad thing. Yet their workplace is surrounded by armed guards and metal-detectors. Many of them travel with armed escorts. Governors and big-city mayors surround themselves with armed security, at work and at home. Why won't they protect children with the same zeal?

                              When elected officials eliminate armed guards from the U.S. or state capitols and declare them "gun-free zones," they can join the discussion of arming teachers. Why doesn't CNN or any other media outlet ask elected officials to explain this hypocrisy?

                              Why are conceal-carry teachers a bad idea? Aren't they similar to air marshals? Have air marshals accidentally shot passengers? Or children who also fly on airplanes? Why do we protect airplanes in a way we won't protect schools?

                              Some pilots are armed, not all – just as some teachers or other school employees, not all, could be armed. Are pilots accidentally shooting passengers or each other? They are the last line of defense against another 9-11. Why is there no last line of defense for our children if a shooter gets into a school?

                              ....
                              more questions liberals will ignore ....

                              Lots of questions. Few answers. If the left wants a rational discussion of the Second Amendment and school safety, perhaps some of these questions need to be asked and answered. Otherwise, it's cheap talk and virtue-signaling...while waiting for the next school shooting.


                              https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...nt_answer.html

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                              • Of course there are exceptions -

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                                Father of Stoneman Douglas Shooting Victim in Support of Arming Qualified Teachers


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                                https://ijr.com/2018/02/1071147-fath...fied-teachers/

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