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  • Tillerson is out!

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has been replaced ... by the director of the CIA.

    It's as though they are re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

    I suspect this has something to do with Tillerson agreeing with the UK prime minister regarding the Russian poisoning case. Trump can't afford to piss Putin off.

  • #2
    Seems a bit odd doesn't it ?

    I find no real reason given yet either, just...

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    Trump asked Tillerson to step down Friday, The Washington Post reported, causing the former Exxon executive to cut short his trip to Africa. Tillerson's representatives had said Tillerson had become sick during the trip.

    "Finally, I want to thank Rex Tillerson for his service. A great deal has been accomplished over the last fourteen months, and I wish him and his family well," Trump said in the statement.


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    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ti.../13/id/848324/


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    What ? Was it because Tillerson became sick during that trip ? Or ... what ?

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    Trump Never Told Tillerson Why He's Fired

    A top State Department official says President Donald Trump never explained to ousted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson the reason why he was fired.

    The undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, Steve Goldstein, says Tillerson "had every intention of staying" in the job because he felt he was making critical progress in national security.

    ...Goldstein says Tillerson "did not speak to the president and is unaware of the reason."


    https://www.newsmax.com/headline/tru.../13/id/848333/

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
      Seems a bit odd doesn't it ?

      I find no real reason given yet either, just...

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      Trump asked Tillerson to step down Friday, The Washington Post reported, causing the former Exxon executive to cut short his trip to Africa. Tillerson's representatives had said Tillerson had become sick during the trip.

      "Finally, I want to thank Rex Tillerson for his service. A great deal has been accomplished over the last fourteen months, and I wish him and his family well," Trump said in the statement.


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      https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ti.../13/id/848324/


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      What ? Was it because Tillerson became sick during that trip ? Or ... what ?

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      Trump Never Told Tillerson Why He's Fired

      A top State Department official says President Donald Trump never explained to ousted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson the reason why he was fired.

      The undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, Steve Goldstein, says Tillerson "had every intention of staying" in the job because he felt he was making critical progress in national security.

      ...Goldstein says Tillerson "did not speak to the president and is unaware of the reason."


      https://www.newsmax.com/headline/tru.../13/id/848333/
      The president and the SoS have to be in agreement on foreign policy. That was not the case between Tillerson and Trump, so this is not a surprise.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Brexx View Post

        The president and the SoS have to be in agreement on foreign policy. That was not the case between Tillerson and Trump, so this is not a surprise.
        Trump has a feign policy? A mood is a policy in my opinion. Apparently Trump dealt with the change with his usual class Announcing the firing with a tweet before he notified Tillerson by phone. Not even to his face.Rex had no business working for a moron.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Brexx View Post
          The president and the SoS have to be in agreement on foreign policy. That was not the case between Tillerson and Trump, so this is not a surprise.
          I suspect it had something to do with the upcoming talk with North Korea too - but, who knows ? Could be a lot of things.

          But this gives something to keep the busy-bodies AKA liberals, something to yak and blather about.

          It might help them with their stress.

          This moron carries around a little obama doll with her to help her de-stress in these "difficult days of Trump"

          These people are just stupid, it's sad to watch.

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          Ex-Times editor Jill Abramson carries an Obama doll in her purse

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          Its easy to look at whats happening in Washington, DC, and despair. Thats why I carry a little plastic Obama doll in my purse. I pull him out every now and then to remind myself that the United States had a progressive, African-American president until very recently. Some people find this strange, but you have to take comfort where you can find it in Donald Trumps America.

          https://pagesix.com/2018/03/09/ex-ti...-in-her-purse/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

            I suspect it had something to do with the upcoming talk with North Korea too - but, who knows ? Could be a lot of things.

            But this gives something to keep the busy-bodies AKA liberals, something to yak and blather about.

            It might help them with their stress.

            This moron carries around a little obama doll with her to help her de-stress in these "difficult days of Trump"

            These people are just stupid, it's sad to watch.

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            Ex-Times editor Jill Abramson carries an Obama doll in her purse

            ....

            Its easy to look at whats happening in Washington, DC, and despair. Thats why I carry a little plastic Obama doll in my purse. I pull him out every now and then to remind myself that the United States had a progressive, African-American president until very recently. Some people find this strange, but you have to take comfort where you can find it in Donald Trumps America.

            https://pagesix.com/2018/03/09/ex-ti...-in-her-purse/
            Within all the chaos and chain reaction of position changes. Don't let the appointment of Gina Haspel to head the CIA. Known as the queen of torture will be more in tune with Trump who promised Christians that he would torture infidels.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/u...-thailand.html

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redrover View Post

              Within all the chaos and chain reaction of position changes. Don't let the appointment of Gina Haspel to head the CIA. Known as the queen of torture will be more in tune with Trump who promised Christians that he would torture infidels.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/u...-thailand.html
              The left is always calling for more women in high places. But of course they mean only left-wing women. lol

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post
                Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has been replaced ... by the director of the CIA.

                It's as though they are re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

                I suspect this has something to do with Tillerson agreeing with the UK prime minister regarding the Russian poisoning case. Trump can't afford to piss Putin off.
                I am not surprised. I doubt it has anything to do with poison and putin. Why would you think so? You were hoping for M.A.D.? Lots of people think we can win a nuke exchange these days. If not for my kids, grand kids and great grand kid, I kinda wish we would do it. I got one foot in the grave anyways and would like to give these People what they think they can win. Not enough room for you in those underground safe spaces though. Just the elites and some of our gov't. It is called COG or something like that. They would eventually run out of food though. You would be gone much faster. Death is great, ain't it?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                  I am not surprised. I doubt it has anything to do with poison and putin. Why would you think so? You were hoping for M.A.D.? Lots of people think we can win a nuke exchange these days. If not for my kids, grand kids and great grand kid, I kinda wish we would do it. I got one foot in the grave anyways and would like to give these People what they think they can win. Not enough room for you in those underground safe spaces though. Just the elites and some of our gov't. It is called COG or something like that. They would eventually run out of food though. You would be gone much faster. Death is great, ain't it?
                  You just might get your nuclear war. Pompeo is in league with Trump on tearing up the Iran deal which makes negotiations with North Korea much more problematic. From my spy in the state department. I learned that she actually thought Rex was good. Very professional.That came as a surprise to me. I thought she didn't like him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                    I am not surprised. I doubt it has anything to do with poison and putin. Why would you think so? You were hoping for M.A.D.? Lots of people think we can win a nuke exchange these days.
                    I'm thinking Tillerson may have had a conversation with Trump regarding the poisoning, said we have to condemn Russia's outrageous behavior, stand by our NATO allies, and Trump shot it down. He may have actually ordered him not to say anything either in support of the UK or in condemnation of Russia. This could have been the last straw for Tillerson and he defied his boss.

                    You and I both grew up in the cold war era. Presidents and secretaries of state condemned Russian aggression all the time.

                    For some reason, Trump, who will rant at anyone for any slight or perceived insult, will not, under any circumstances say a bad word against Russia or Putin. Further, if he is in the presence of anyone who does, he will immediately deflect and change the subject. Why is that? What is it about Russia and Putin that Trump will not permit this?

                    Your comment suggests there are only two alternatives, either kiss their asses or go to all-out nuclear war. Is that what you believe?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post

                      I'm thinking Tillerson may have had a conversation with Trump regarding the poisoning, said we have to condemn Russia's outrageous behavior, stand by our NATO allies, and Trump shot it down. He may have actually ordered him not to say anything either in support of the UK or in condemnation of Russia. This could have been the last straw for Tillerson and he defied his boss.

                      You and I both grew up in the cold war era. Presidents and secretaries of state condemned Russian aggression all the time.

                      For some reason, Trump, who will rant at anyone for any slight or perceived insult, will not, under any circumstances say a bad word against Russia or Putin. Further, if he is in the presence of anyone who does, he will immediately deflect and change the subject. Why is that? What is it about Russia and Putin that Trump will not permit this?

                      Your comment suggests there are only two alternatives, either kiss their asses or go to all-out nuclear war. Is that what you believe?
                      benjamin netanyahu
                      Trump would love a nuclear war because it might keep Stormy out of the news for a few days. Benjamin Netanyahu would love to see Trump blow up The Iran deal so the US can fight the coming with Iran for them. Above all the policy differences between Rex and Donnie.the moron comment continued to eat at the president.Looking at the way Trump handled the firing begs the question why would the best people submit themselves to that kind of humiliation?

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                      • #12
                        Is there anyone who can defend Trump's antics? He fired SECSTATE in a tweet without even telling him. Tillerson was informed while he was on the toilet apparently. What on Earth does this POTUS need to do for some of his supports to say enough is enough?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Danny View Post
                          Is there anyone who can defend Trump's antics? He fired SECSTATE in a tweet without even telling him. Tillerson was informed while he was on the toilet apparently. What on Earth does this POTUS need to do for some of his supports to say enough is enough?
                          Who cares how Tillerson found out? I have many SUBSTANTIVE things I disagree with Trump on, but all this bloviating over stylistic matters (with no real substance to them) crowd out genuine discussion over things that really matter.

                          Get this through your head, a very large part of the reason Trump got elected was because people were fed up with the BS rules that the establishment invented and insist upon. I personally don't care for Trump's manner and style, but I can understand why many find it very refreshing. Hell, if Trump wanted to have live camera's in the Oval Office when a subordinate is beckoned in so he could say "Rex, you're Fired!" on live television, I would find it rather tacky, but ultimately a question of style and not a matter of substance to get my knickers in a knot over.

                          Now, on actual substantive matters of public policy, while I disagree with Trump on some things, I can't say that I would prefer that Hillary had been elected.

                          Now, had the democrats (who unlike my party got the nominee the overwhelming majority of the primary voters wanted) nominated someone who was not dishonest, corrupt, and utterly out of touch with the electorate, who was somewhat of a moderate like Joe Lieberman vs. Trump, I would have seriously considered voting for a Democrat for President for the first time in my life...as opposed to writing in an acceptable candidate).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post

                            Who cares how Tillerson found out? I have many SUBSTANTIVE things I disagree with Trump on, but all this bloviating over stylistic matters (with no real substance to them) crowd out genuine discussion over things that really matter.

                            Get this through your head, a very large part of the reason Trump got elected was because people were fed up with the BS rules that the establishment invented and insist upon. I personally don't care for Trump's manner and style, but I can understand why many find it very refreshing. Hell, if Trump wanted to have live camera's in the Oval Office when a subordinate is beckoned in so he could say "Rex, you're Fired!" on live television, I would find it rather tacky, but ultimately a question of style and not a matter of substance to get my knickers in a knot over.

                            Now, on actual substantive matters of public policy, while I disagree with Trump on some things, I can't say that I would prefer that Hillary had been elected.

                            Now, had the democrats (who unlike my party got the nominee the overwhelming majority of the primary voters wanted) nominated someone who was not dishonest, corrupt, and utterly out of touch with the electorate, who was somewhat of a moderate like Joe Lieberman vs. Trump, I would have seriously considered voting for a Democrat for President for the first time in my life...as opposed to writing in an acceptable candidate).
                            I can understand why some people voted for Trump but I can not imagine why anyone would vote for him again. My spy at the State department says they don't like Tillerson's replacement. They say he's a Jesus freak.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              I can understand why some people voted for Trump but I can not imagine why anyone would vote for him again. My spy at the State department says they don't like Tillerson's replacement. They say he's a Jesus freak.
                              They voted for barack two times, why wouldn't they ?

                              As for Jesus freaks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEvy8mROAj0

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