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  • Gina Haspel

    The Trump nominee to head up the CIA lost the support of senator John McCain because of her hedged answer on the morality of torture. The issue of torture is a big one for me. Despite her other qualifications I would have to vote no. https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/polit...cia/index.html

  • #2
    Originally posted by redrover View Post
    The Trump nominee to head up the CIA lost the support of senator John McCain because of her hedged answer on the morality of torture. The issue of torture is a big one for me. Despite her other qualifications I would have to vote no. https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/polit...cia/index.html
    Coming from McCain, this means little..

    Then ...

    How was her answer "hedged" ?

    IF it clearly was "hedged," is this only a matter of being choosy about who is, and what kind of "hedging" is going on ??

    ... I think it probably is ! Every dips*^t politician you hear speak, "hedges" somehow with every sentence out of their mouths !

    McCain himself has been a master at hedging for his entire life !! So again, coming from McCain, this means little..

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

      Coming from McCain, this means little..

      Then ...

      How was her answer "hedged" ?

      IF it clearly was "hedged," is this only a matter of being choosy about who is, and what kind of "hedging" is going on ??

      ... I think it probably is ! Every dips*^t politician you hear speak, "hedges" somehow with every sentence out of their mouths !

      McCain himself has been a master at hedging for his entire life !! So again, coming from McCain, this means little..
      Aside from the fact that you have no qualms about torture that is a horrible and untrue thing to say about John McCain almost as offensive as this from the white house. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b00d7e4c18e245

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      • #4
        Originally posted by redrover View Post
        Aside from the fact that you have no qualms about torture that is a horrible and untrue thing to say about John McCain almost as offensive as this from the white house. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b00d7e4c18e245
        We have to note that this report you offer states;

        "Cindy McCain, ... hit back at reports that a White House official mocked her husbands health status during a Thursday meeting about CIA director nominee Gina Haspel."

        Reports that ... a White House official mocked her husbands health status

        It goes on with;

        "According to multiple news outlets, White House aide Kelly Sadler responded to McCains opposition to Haspels nomination with the comment, Hes dying anyway. "

        "According to multiple news outlets....
        I wonder who these multiple news outlets are ??

        It continues;

        "Soon after reports about the insulting attack, McCains wife took to Twitter.."

        "Reports of the insulting attack" ....

        It's interesting how we can't verify that this is even true !

        Which would certainly be pointed out by YOU were this an accusation of some democrat saying something evil about some conservative !

        You'd say it didn't happen if there were no video or official transcript.... no, you more likely say it was well deserved and justified !

        There's no double standards here, there's no hypocrisies LOL

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        • #5
          No matter.

          McCain is rotten to the core, war hero or not, he's rotten.

          He'll be remembered, maybe not the way he'd hoped, but he'll be remembered.

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          His corruption of character dates back to the 80s with the Keating Five scandal that allowed his family to profit from the dealings of Charles Keating, while McCain was pressuring regulators to back off of him.

          Later he turned on President Bush, voting against both his tax cuts, and joined Dems on what seemed to be all the domestic issues like healthcare, auto emission standards, gun control, and climate change. And lets not forget hes the biggest Open Borders Republican there is. Then running for President in 2008 he almost had Democrat Joe Lieberman become is VP nominee, something he just recently said he regrets not doing, throwing a loyal Sarah Palin under the bus in the process. And during that campaign he wouldnt have anyone on his staff say anything bad about his opponent, Barack Hussein Obama. You could say McCain gave us eight years of the disastrous Obama Presidency, which gave us a horrible Iran Deal, a socialist health policy thats breaking the bank with Obamacare, and a massive surveillance state. McCain built that.

          ..now he goes after Trump with a vengeance. This vindictive man, who is upset because Trump made an offhand comment about him is willing to go against his country just to stab him in the back. Lets not forget the late night thumbs down he gave on the Senate floor to stop the repeal of Obamacare, stabbing the president in the back.

          Now with brain cancer and knowing he is near death he says he is going to do whatever he wants, including putting the nation in danger by rejecting a qualified CIA nominee.

          Yes he served his country in Vietnam and was a prisoner of war. Benedict Arnold was also a great American war hero. He was wounded at the battle of Saratoga, a battle that was one of the first major battles the Americans won. He nearly died from his wounds. Had he died right there, he would have gone down as one of the greatest American Generals and a hero that would be talked about in schools today. But he lived, and like McCain, because he felt hed been slighted by Washington, he turned on his country and became the biggest traitor in American history.

          John McCain is following that exact same path. ...


          https://www.newsmax.com/michaelsavag.../11/id/859814/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
            No matter.

            McCain is rotten to the core, war hero or not, he's rotten.

            He'll be remembered, maybe not the way he'd hoped, but he'll be remembered.

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            His corruption of character dates back to the 80s with the Keating Five scandal that allowed his family to profit from the dealings of Charles Keating, while McCain was pressuring regulators to back off of him.

            Later he turned on President Bush, voting against both his tax cuts, and joined Dems on what seemed to be all the domestic issues like healthcare, auto emission standards, gun control, and climate change. And lets not forget hes the biggest Open Borders Republican there is. Then running for President in 2008 he almost had Democrat Joe Lieberman become is VP nominee, something he just recently said he regrets not doing, throwing a loyal Sarah Palin under the bus in the process. And during that campaign he wouldnt have anyone on his staff say anything bad about his opponent, Barack Hussein Obama. You could say McCain gave us eight years of the disastrous Obama Presidency, which gave us a horrible Iran Deal, a socialist health policy thats breaking the bank with Obamacare, and a massive surveillance state. McCain built that.

            ..now he goes after Trump with a vengeance. This vindictive man, who is upset because Trump made an offhand comment about him is willing to go against his country just to stab him in the back. Lets not forget the late night thumbs down he gave on the Senate floor to stop the repeal of Obamacare, stabbing the president in the back.

            Now with brain cancer and knowing he is near death he says he is going to do whatever he wants, including putting the nation in danger by rejecting a qualified CIA nominee.

            Yes he served his country in Vietnam and was a prisoner of war. Benedict Arnold was also a great American war hero. He was wounded at the battle of Saratoga, a battle that was one of the first major battles the Americans won. He nearly died from his wounds. Had he died right there, he would have gone down as one of the greatest American Generals and a hero that would be talked about in schools today. But he lived, and like McCain, because he felt hed been slighted by Washington, he turned on his country and became the biggest traitor in American history.

            John McCain is following that exact same path. ...


            https://www.newsmax.com/michaelsavag.../11/id/859814/
            I agree only in the sense that all Republicans are traitors and enemies of the people. I hear that some of them even encouraged our enemies to interfere in our elections.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redrover View Post
              I agree only in the sense that all Republicans are traitors and enemies of the people. I hear that some of them even encouraged our enemies to interfere in our elections.
              Yeah, besides Russia and Iran, HILARY too !!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                Yeah, besides Russia and Iran, HILARY too !!
                Hillary too of course. McCain while a prisoner of war he passed up his release until the guys who had been longer could be released. Do you think that is something me first Donald would have done? I forgot there was no chance old bone spurs could get captured.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  Hillary too of course. McCain while a prisoner of war he passed up his release until the guys who had been longer could be released. Do you think that is something me first Donald would have done? I forgot there was no chance old bone spurs could get captured.
                  I know, John McCain is the greatest isn't he ?

                  ..., the greatest putz on earth LOL

                  In the mean-time, hilary can hardly stand upright for more than 10 minutes, has trouble walking up stairs, getting in & out of vehicles etc etc... and you're calling who old bone spurs ? LOL

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    I know, John McCain is the greatest isn't he ?

                    ..., the greatest putz on earth LOL

                    In the mean-time, hilary can hardly stand upright for more than 10 minutes, has trouble walking up stairs, getting in & out of vehicles etc etc... and you're calling who old bone spurs ? LOL
                    I don't know if McCain is the greatest, but for a republican he is relatively moral. I grew up in the era immediately post WWII hearing the stories of what the godless Japs did to our boys and you well know how upset I was when I learned that the US used the same tactics. I certainly talked about it often enough. We would know about Haspel if she hadn't destroyed the evidence of her crimes. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...er-up-torture/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      I don't know if McCain is the greatest, but for a republican he is relatively moral. I grew up in the era immediately post WWII hearing the stories of what the godless Japs did to our boys and you well know how upset I was when I learned that the US used the same tactics. I certainly talked about it often enough. We would know about Haspel if she hadn't destroyed the evidence of her crimes. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...er-up-torture/
                      She committed crimes only in your imagination

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                        She committed crimes only in your imagination
                        Oh I forgot Christians don't consider torture a moral crime. I consider it a crime against humanity. The fact that she destroyed the torture videos is not in question she admits it herself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVm9ecwXywU

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by redrover View Post

                          Oh I forgot Christians don't consider torture a moral crime. I consider it a crime against humanity. The fact that she destroyed the torture videos is not in question she admits it herself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVm9ecwXywU
                          And her crime is ???

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                            And her crime is ???
                            If you listened to the link you will note that she advocated for the destruction of the tapes. It all sounds like a deep state cover up of the illegal use of torture.You have taught me not to trust these deep state types.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              If you listened to the link you will note that she advocated for the destruction of the tapes. It all sounds like a deep state cover up of the illegal use of torture.You have taught me not to trust these deep state types.
                              She clearly explained the reason for destroying the tapes.

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