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  • Kavanaugh hearing

    Once again president Trump is telling us to buy a pig in a poke.Just as he said we don't need to see his tax returns he's telling congress they don't need to see the requested documents whatfor do you gotta see them I already told you he's a fine man. Case closed. If we can't trust Trumpsy who can we trust? I can already hear the howls when the impeachment trial begins and Cavanaugh recuses himself. If I knew he was going to recuse himself I would have picked somebody else.

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    JUST pointing out, even your nonsensical threads need some serious work, Goofus:

    The Supreme Court Nominee spells his name with a "K" ... not a "C"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
      JUST pointing out, even your nonsensical threads need some serious work, Goofus:

      The Supreme Court Nominee spells his name with a "K" ... not a "C"
      Sorry DavidSF I've seen it spelled both ways and both names are pronounced the same way.
      Last edited by DavidSF; 09-04-2018, 11:05 AM.

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      • #4
        The way you've seen using a "C" is incorrect.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
          The way you've seen using a "C" is incorrect.
          I've got a similar problem with my name. If I don't immediately start spelling it people will invariably spelling out a name that is pronounced the same way but spelled differently. Putting all this aside. All we can hope is that Kavanaugh will be like Scalia who will set aside his principles long enough to remember above everything else he is a republican.

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          • #6
            Thttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTmYEWJGVcINRA must be thrilled by the way Kavanaugh pulled his hand away from father of a dead Parkland student and turned his back and walked away. Very revealing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTmYEWJGVcI

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redrover View Post

              I've got a similar problem with my name. If I don't immediately start spelling it people will invariably spelling out a name that is pronounced the same way but spelled differently. Putting all this aside. All we can hope is that Kavanaugh will be like Scalia who will set aside his principles long enough to remember above everything else he is a republican.
              Don't be an ass.

              On a related topic, I saw a video clip of the Nebraska Senator, at the Kavanaugh hearings, admonishing the Legislature for basically abandoning their job of creating laws


              The thing that impressed me (other than I'm now a staunch advocate of Ben Sasse), was how Kavanaugh responded. Not only did he pay close attention to what was being said, but he was taking notes.

              As a former manager of people, I know someone who takes notes on what is being said is trainable, and willing to learn from what is being said.

              That is a great comment on this man's qualifications.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DavidSF View Post

                Don't be an ass.

                On a related topic, I saw a video clip of the Nebraska Senator, at the Kavanaugh hearings, admonishing the Legislature for basically abandoning their job of creating laws


                The thing that impressed me (other than I'm now a staunch advocate of Ben Sasse), was how Kavanaugh responded. Not only did he pay close attention to what was being said, but he was taking notes.

                As a former manager of people, I know someone who takes notes on what is being said is trainable, and willing to learn from what is being said.

                That is a great comment on this man's qualifications.
                Some good stuff in that clip. I will never understand why this congress ceded all their authority to Trump. We will se what Kavanaugh is made of when impeachment hearings begin..Will he step up where Jeff Sessions failed and protect the boss at all cost?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post

                  Some good stuff in that clip. I will never understand why this congress ceded all their authority to Trump. We will se what Kavanaugh is made of when impeachment hearings begin..Will he step up where Jeff Sessions failed and protect the boss at all cost?
                  I've got a similar question: Will you ever post something intelligent and meaningful?

                  THIS Congress only continues to cede their authority to both the executive and judicial branches. Many congresses before them decided it was more important to get elected (and NOT be known for issues they've tackled) than it was to actually do their job. Look at DACA: Obama's congresses abandoned their responsibility to enact the laws so Obama took his "pen and telephone" and wrote one himself. THEN, when Trump appropriately dissolved the illegal DACA "law," and specifically told Congress, "do your job" they not only got outraged that he would DARE do something like that ... but it was obviously so important to them they have done NOTHING to resolve the issue for "dreamers."

                  Once again, your hatred blinds you to truth. Get over it.

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                  • #10
                    Alright, but anyways . . . sorry, I fixed the spelling before I realized there was a fun discussion about the spelling LOL

                    But anyways, there's a thread on this topic here already in the judiciary area.

                    See here; https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...nybody-noticed

                    Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    Some good stuff in that clip. I will never understand why this congress ceded all their authority to Trump. We will se what Kavanaugh is made of when impeachment hearings begin..Will he step up where Jeff Sessions failed and protect the boss at all cost?
                    There aren't going to be any "impeachment hearings."

                    In case you haven't yet heard, Maxine waters is crazy as a loon.

                    Also, congress hasn't "ceded all their authority" to Trump.

                    See here https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...395#post558395

                    for a simple explanation that you will be able to understand.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                      Alright, but anyways . . . sorry, I fixed the spelling before I realized there was a fun discussion about the spelling LOL

                      But anyways, there's a thread on this topic here already in the judiciary area.

                      See here; https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...nybody-noticed



                      There aren't going to be any "impeachment hearings."

                      In case you haven't yet heard, Maxine waters is crazy as a loon.

                      Also, congress hasn't "ceded all their authority" to Trump.

                      See here https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...395#post558395

                      for a simple explanation that you will be able to understand.
                      Maxine Waters is crazy as a loon? I wonder if she has a staff like president's that spends at least part of the day foiling her worst instincts and taking documents they don't want he to sign and she's so low IQ that she doesn't even notice? I hope you will take the time to listen to Obama's speech yesterday at the University of Illinois.While Donald the dim wit was put to sleep by it. I think it will hold your interest.It is much more than a hate filled attack on Trump.I think there is a message that that will appeal to a thinking man like yourself.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by redrover View Post
                        Maxine Waters is crazy as a loon? I wonder if she has a staff like president's that spends at least part of the day foiling her worst instincts and taking documents they don't want he to sign and she's so low IQ that she doesn't even notice? I hope you will take the time to listen to Obama's speech yesterday at the University of Illinois.While Donald the dim wit was put to sleep by it. I think it will hold your interest.It is much more than a hate filled attack on Trump.I think there is a message that that will appeal to a thinking man like yourself.
                        I heard it already. Just more of Mr Obamas smooth talking garbage.

                        Yes, maxine is crazy as hell. She rants "Impeach forty five !" over and over like a crazy person IN PUBLIC !! I feel sorry for the woman, her family clearly doesn't care that much for her.

                        https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...rump-chant.cnn

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPtlSzktnGk

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEejrkvUgFw

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                          I heard it already. Just more of Mr Obamas smooth talking garbage.

                          Yes, maxine is crazy as hell. She rants "Impeach forty five !" over and over like a crazy person IN PUBLIC !! I feel sorry for the woman, her family clearly doesn't care that much for her.

                          https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...rump-chant.cnn

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPtlSzktnGk

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEejrkvUgFw
                          Kavanaugh will be confirmed despite this little problem but for the party of lies it's not an issue anymore now or when they confirmed Rehnquist way back when.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...06-story.html#

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by redrover View Post
                            Kavanaugh will be confirmed despite this little problem but for the party of lies it's not an issue anymore now or when they confirmed Rehnquist way back when.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...06-story.html#
                            Another story about nothing to raise doubts.

                            That's all

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                            Neither of these two cases meet the high bar for a perjury prosecution.

                            The first instance, wherein Kavanaugh said he was not involved in handling Pryors nomination, isnt even clearly false. The question that precedes it is a lengthy question from Senator Kennedy. One could argue that Kavanaugh thought Kennedy was asking whether Kavanaugh played a major role in the vetting process for Pryor, or discussed specific Constitutional doctrines with Pryor prior to Pryors nomination (Kennedy mentions Pryors reported views of the Supreme Courts Miranda decision). Thus, Kavanaughs answer (No. I was not involved in handling his nomination) is truthful insofar as Kavanaugh understood handling to mean in charge of either vetting the person or shepherding that persons nomination through the Senate. The fact that Kavanaugh apparently was invited to a meeting (and it is unclear from the email how many other people were invited) doesnt necessarily demonstrate that Kavanaughs statement was untrue, much less that he intentionally lied or misled Senator Kennedy.

                            I dont see any lie in [the second case]. Instead, hes effectively saying, Based on my own response, I dont think I realized this was a stolen draft.


                            That being said, senators are free to point out inconsistencies in testimony and question a judicial nominee about those perceived inconsistencies. And if the nominee does a poor job explaining such inconsistencies, senators can and should take that into account. But perjury is a serious crime, provable only by evidence that someone intentionally lied under oath. Based on what I have read so far, I cannot imagine any prosecutor pursuing either of these.

                            Jessica Levinson, law professor, Loyola Law School

                            Probably not. Perjury is a pretty high standard and its not, We think you lied, this isnt particularly credible. Its, You willfully lied under oath. It doesnt feel totally credible, but we dont have proof of a willful falsehood.

                            On the first tweet, being involved in the nomination, I think if you look down lower at the transcript below the part highlighted, he gives himself enough room that it doesnt clearly rise to the level of perjury. Hes saying, I know him, Ive met him, but I wasnt the point person for that one, I wasnt in charge. I think if you look at the overall context, he has a line that he wasnt involved in the handling. That was probably too direct an assertion, but I dont think that one rises to the level of perjury.

                            On the second one about the documents, that one is a little bit more nefarious or troubling, and I think what Senator Leahy said at the end of that thread is where I come down. Is that really credible? It doesnt sound right to me. But again, does it rise to the high level of perjury? Can you leap over that threshold or cross that hurdle? I dont think so. I think the second instance is a closer call, but if you look at the context, if you look at his statements, I think he left himself enough room.

                            In sum, do I think future Justice Kavanaugh perjured himself? I dont. Do I think hes been less than forthcoming? Absolutely. Do I think hes been more troublingly less than forthcoming than previous nominees? I do. Do I think we have less access to documents than we have with previous nominees? Yes. But I dont think that he perjured himself.


                            https://www.vox.com/2018/9/7/1782932...earing-perjury

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              Some good stuff in that clip. I will never understand why this congress ceded all their authority to Trump. We will se what Kavanaugh is made of when impeachment hearings begin..Will he step up where Jeff Sessions failed and protect the boss at all cost?
                              I've got a similar question: Will you ever post something intelligent and meaningful?

                              THIS Congress only continues to cede their authority to both the executive and judicial branches. Many congresses before them decided it was more important to get elected (and NOT be known for issues they've tackled) than it was to actually do their job. Look at DACA: Obama's congresses abandoned their responsibility to enact the laws so Obama took his "pen and telephone" and wrote one himself. THEN, when Trump appropriately dissolved the illegal DACA "law," and specifically told Congress, "do your job" they not only got outraged that he would DARE do something like that ... but it was obviously so important to them they have done NOTHING to resolve the issue for "dreamers."

                              Once again, your hatred blinds you to truth. Get over it.

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