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  • Jim Mattis resigns

    I guess he just couldn't deal with the madness of King Donald any longer https://finance.yahoo.com/news/matti...224351445.html

  • #2


    Here's the entire letter he wrote to the president...

    https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/use...1s3MmEom1_8/v0

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    • #3
      Ever in search of ANYTHING to complain publicly about the president, we have democrats going nutty about this.

      We're "spiraling into chaos" ..."President Trump is plunging the country into chaos." etc etc etc

      Same garbage as always

      From the comments area below the article;

      "Democrats: Anything good for America and its people, scary. The US constitution, scary. National borders, scary. The right to bear arms, scary. Any religion but Islam, scary. Heterosexuality, scary. White people, scary. Conservative thoughts, scary. Freedom, scary."

      Which perfectly sums up democrat positions;

      A seething hatred for the country -America- that has given them a place to spew venom & hatred.
      To spew a hate for Americans who don't wish to "fundamentally transform" America into another socialist 'experiment.'

      Why ?

      Because history is very clear about what socialism creates.

      Chaos and destruction !!

      We've seen enough of experimenting with socialism and communism, we've seen what it does.

      Bang your socialist tin cans somewhere else Nancy and Chuckie.

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      Dems React to Mattis Resignation: 'This Is Scary'

      "I am shaken by the resignation of General Mattis. For what it means to our country, for the message it sends to our troops, and for the indication of what his view is of the commander-in-chief," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told reporters.

      Chuck Schumer spoke alongside Pelosi and had this to say:

      "[Thursday's] events have made one thing clear: President Trump is plunging the country into chaos. The stock market's down another 500 points; Gen. Mattis is stepping down, and we know he has real disagreements with the president on Syria and on the wall; and now, President Trump is throwing a temper tantrum and creating the Trump shutdown of the government."

      Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.: "I have a lot of respect for General Mattis and after what happened [Wednesday] the resignation is sadly understandable."

      Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J.: "Secretary Mattis' resignation is a significant loss and shows that that President Trump's foreign policy agenda is spiraling into chaos."

      Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.: "This is scary. Secretary Mattis has been an island of stability amidst the chaos of the Trump administration. As we've seen with the president's haphazard approach to Syria, our national defense is too important to be subjected to the president's erratic whims."



      https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ja.../20/id/895365/

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
        Ever in search of ANYTHING to complain publicly about the president, we have democrats going nutty about this.

        We're "spiraling into chaos" ..."President Trump is plunging the country into chaos." etc etc etc

        Same garbage as always

        From the comments area below the article;

        "Democrats: Anything good for America and its people, scary. The US constitution, scary. National borders, scary. The right to bear arms, scary. Any religion but Islam, scary. Heterosexuality, scary. White people, scary. Conservative thoughts, scary. Freedom, scary."

        Which perfectly sums up democrat positions;

        A seething hatred for the country -America- that has given them a place to spew venom & hatred.
        To spew a hate for Americans who don't wish to "fundamentally transform" America into another socialist 'experiment.'

        Why ?

        Because history is very clear about what socialism creates.

        Chaos and destruction !!

        We've seen enough of experimenting with socialism and communism, we've seen what it does.

        Bang your socialist tin cans somewhere else Nancy and Chuckie.

        ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

        Dems React to Mattis Resignation: 'This Is Scary'

        "I am shaken by the resignation of General Mattis. For what it means to our country, for the message it sends to our troops, and for the indication of what his view is of the commander-in-chief," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told reporters.

        Chuck Schumer spoke alongside Pelosi and had this to say:

        "[Thursday's] events have made one thing clear: President Trump is plunging the country into chaos. The stock market's down another 500 points; Gen. Mattis is stepping down, and we know he has real disagreements with the president on Syria and on the wall; and now, President Trump is throwing a temper tantrum and creating the Trump shutdown of the government."

        Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.: "I have a lot of respect for General Mattis and after what happened [Wednesday] the resignation is sadly understandable."

        Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J.: "Secretary Mattis' resignation is a significant loss and shows that that President Trump's foreign policy agenda is spiraling into chaos."

        Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.: "This is scary. Secretary Mattis has been an island of stability amidst the chaos of the Trump administration. As we've seen with the president's haphazard approach to Syria, our national defense is too important to be subjected to the president's erratic whims."



        https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ja.../20/id/895365/
        What chaos? This is a finely tuned machine and the resident is just draining the swamp.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by redrover View Post

          What chaos? This is a finely tuned machine and the resident is just draining the swamp.
          Oh.

          Ok, I thought that . . well, chuckles and nancy-fancy-pants are talking about chaos and instability and haphazard ...

          I guess nevermind then, we do know that chuckles and nancy-fancy-pants are a wild-n-crazy geriatric duo LOL

          Lot of fun to listen to ... for a few seconds.

          Then - *sighs* - then they're very tiresome. They should be at their elderly care facility enjoying their oatmeal and Ensure drinks.

          Enjoying a fun sit-n-be fit routine.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

            Oh.

            Ok, I thought that . . well, chuckles and nancy-fancy-pants are talking about chaos and instability and haphazard ...

            I guess nevermind then, we do know that chuckles and nancy-fancy-pants are a wild-n-crazy geriatric duo LOL

            Lot of fun to listen to ... for a few seconds.

            Then - *sighs* - then they're very tiresome. They should be at their elderly care facility enjoying their oatmeal and Ensure drinks.

            Enjoying a fun sit-n-be fit routine.
            You do know that Chuck is four years younger than the president don't you? I know Donald acts much younger. About 60 years s younger. That's5u7 why so many people are flipping out over the departure of the last adult in the room.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redrover View Post

              You do know that Chuck is four years younger than the president don't you? I know Donald acts much younger. About 60 years s younger. That's5u7 why so many people are flipping out over the departure of the last adult in the room.
              If only we could put them all in a room.

              A rubber walled room.

              As for nancies and chuckies age, they speak & act like they belong in elderly care facilities.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                If only we could put them all in a room.

                A rubber walled room.

                As for nancies and chuckies age, they speak & act like they belong in elderly care facilities.
                Do you remember how Don used to talk about all his generals? Well they are all gone. Maybe he will promote Jared to four star general.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post

                  Do you remember how Don used to talk about all his generals? Well they are all gone.
                  Probably for the best.

                  Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  Maybe he will promote Jared to four star general.
                  I think Jared is going to be busy working in the prison system.

                  Remember ?

                  He's full of all kinds of great ideas he is LOL

                  https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...ng-reform-plan

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    Probably for the best.



                    I think Jared is going to be busy working in the prison system.

                    Remember ?

                    He's full of all kinds of great ideas he is LOL

                    https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...ng-reform-plan
                    I think the entire family is going to prison including the little gut who had his boy scout dues paid for by the Trump charity foundation.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      I think the entire family is going to prison including the little gut who had his boy scout dues paid for by the Trump charity foundation.
                      So we'll have the best run, most luxurious prisons the world has ever seen !

                      Crime will be trendy and sought ! Everybody will want to sit in Trump jail LOL

                      Gourmet meals every day. . a choice of what you want... with your own personal chef.

                      Free everything, computer, car, education, conjugal visits whenever you like, nice fitness facilities, even a nice mall within the prison where you can spend some time with friends and family etc

                      Crime DOES pay now LOL

                      Or maybe I just having a democrat moment ? I've graduated from Maalox moments to democrat moments, I know, scary !

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                      • #12
                        So help me understand: When Mattis says he is committed to a smooth transition and wont be leaving his position for three months, the liberal, loony-tune left hears chaos and disarray?

                        Hmmmmm, maybe they dont understand the language...

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                        • #13
                          Another perspective. While I might or might not fully agree, I trust this source, Chris Seiple, whose pedigree you can see here: https://globalengage.org/person/chris-seiple/ige-board

                          Some of you have asked for my thoughts on the resignation of Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis. Thank you. Here they are:

                          1. I believe every believing person has a responsibility to steward their spiritual, global and national citizenships. That is not an easy thing. As a Christian, according to the example of Paul, I have citizenship in the Kingdom of God, and I understand my global and national citizenshipsRoman and Hebrew, respectively, for Paulas gifts of God, pursuant the Kingdom of God.

                          2. In a fallen world, evilwhich runs through the heart of every human beingnot only lingers but lurks and lunges at every opportunity. Silence is action. Inaction is action. Evil wins when good people do nothing. Nature abhors a vacuum and evil will fill it.

                          3. Believers in America have a responsibility to steward the awesome hard (military &amp; economic) and soft (spiritual and cultural) power that America represents. We do not believe we are better than anyone else, but we do believe the capacity to self-critique and self-correct such that people of all faiths and none, and of all races can live together in mutual respect is an exceptional experiment, and example, one that we too often dont get right. But that capacity to live with our deepest differences is actually the foundation of a national security that allows the experimental example to take place.

                          4. It is the responsibility of citizens to expect its leaders to explain regularly the use of American hard and soft power. It is fair and good to ask why US troops are everywhere, in a seemingly unending war. It is fair and good to ask why other countries do not pay more for the protective presence of US forcesto countries, and of the sea lanes that keep global trade and job creation happeningthat America provides, in partnership with local allies whose expertise &amp; experience is needed to sustain the effort.

                          5. Jim Mattis embodies all that is right about America. He took over the 7th Marine Regiment just as I was leaving in 1994, and in 1999, my father spent time with him in Bosnia when Mattis was a one-star general. His reputation then is the same as it is now. His yes is yes and his no is no. He is a man of integrity who reads and thinks seriously, in order to do the least harm in the exercise of military force. He knows that thinking without doing is worthless, and that doing without thinking is dangerous.

                          6. Whether one believes in anything or not, or whether one has an opinion about the nature of the world, it is simply true that when the biggest force in the worldwhich remains the US, whether you like it or notis uncertain and unpredictable, allies tremble and competitors and enemies see opportunities.

                          7. It so happens that our current world is one in which religious nationalism is on the rise, a nationalism that uses religion/ideology to validate the power of one ethno-religious group over others, as authoritarianism increases. Evil is amidst this authoritarianism. When the greatest power acts as it has been, authoritarianism is not only emboldened in its domestic repression, it sees opportunity abroad.

                          8. In the case of the announcement of the withdrawal of US troops from Syria, it is more than irresponsible to do so without first consulting your advisors, let alone your allies. That does not mean our troops should not be withdrawn, it only means that the manner in which they are withdrawn confirms the pattern that the US is unpredictable, uncertain, and not trustworthy. Ironically, the withdrawal will create the same vacuum for the return of ISIS as did the 2011 Obama withdrawal from Iraq decision created the vacuum for the rise of ISIS.

                          9. Russia praised the announcement. It makes Putin look stronger as Russia maintains their presence. Iran is also very happy. They will have a much easier time sending money, weapons and forces to Assad (the president of Syria), and to Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. (Russia and Iran are allies, and its been reported that Hezbollah convoys have traveled under the Russian flag in order to evade American airstrikes). ISIS is also happy and there are already reports that they are gathering to attack the Kurds. Of course, no one wants to guess what the fate will be of the 50,000 refugees under US protection in Syria.

                          10. Also quite happy is Turkeys president Erdogan (Trump made the decision to withdraw after speaking with him). Erdogan hates the Kurds and does not want them to have an independent country (which would have huge implications for the large Kurdish minority in his own country). Trump is also reported to be seeking the extradition of a Turkish cleric, Fethullah Gulen, who lives in Pennsylvania, as Erdogan believes that his followers were part of the coup against Erdogan in 2016. Why is Trump so anxious to please Erdogan (and Putin)? There are two reasons, related to a simple fact: Trumps worldview is transactional. He is unable and unwilling to understand the ROI (Return On Investment) of alliances, and American troops abroad. Second, he wants to help Saudi Arabia keep Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MbS) in power. MbS ordered the murder of US resident/journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey. If Trump can keep Erdogan from releasing irrefutable evidence about the murder, then maybe Trump can keep MbS in power, and keep the business deals he signed with the Saudis.

                          11. Jim Mattis has an 84% popularity rating among our troops. He is almost universally respected on both sides of the aisle, and among our allies. His sheer credibility, along with his letter, calls into question whether Trump is fit to be commander-in-chief, given the rise of Russia and China, and the potential return of ISIS. And, I do not think it too much to say, that his resignation creates the political context for impeachment that was otherwise not possible (at least currently). In other words, Mattis or the forthcoming Mueller report (which I believe will provide the legal details of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and money laundering) is not enough for impeachment. Mattis + Mueller, however, creates, for the first time, a context in which impeachment could take place.

                          12. Full circle: its a mucked-up world. We are called to engage it as it is. Believers are called not to change the world but to engage it because they are changed. Engagement requires serious thinking about theology, citizenship and the resulting roles and responsibilities of citizenshipspiritual, global and national. How will we steward our power? Will we seek advice? Will we seek sufficient consensus? The jury, so to speak, is still out. But Mattis has voted. And I am with him.

                          i believe we might have seen the groundwork being laid for what Seiple says (bolded) in the vote in Congress yesterday for the budget.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
                            So help me understand: When Mattis says he is committed to a smooth transition and wont be leaving his position for three months, the liberal, loony-tune left hears chaos and disarray?

                            Hmmmmm, maybe they dont understand the language...
                            Anything to say to attempt t make the president look bad. Now it's all "chaos" etc.

                            They're desperate. It's silly.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                              Anything to say to attempt t make the president look bad. Now it's all "chaos" etc.

                              They're desperate. It's silly.
                              Iwould be silly if it wasn't true.I'm afraid that poor Donny has totally gone off the deep end. AS mad as a hatter.

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