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  • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

    Meh.

    While I wouldn't disagree that the DC swamp and its lobbyist pay masters are a problem, outside of the DC corruption ring there's rather few barriers to people with the desire and the sweat equity to succeed. Sure, they'll face challenges, but in which worthwhile endeavor aren't there challenges? If you give it away for free, it'll not be valued (think of the condition of most public housing). The appreciation of the value comes from the hard work and sweat equity that you put into that endeavor.
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    I believe there are more barriers for lower iq people today than in my youth because of the change in our economic model. It is obvious in my state given a lack of quality jobs. The kind of jobs are relevant logically to success. But this fact should not stop people from striving for success

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    • Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post

      To expand on this thought, I will say that I wholeheartedly agree with one of Elizabeth "Fauxahontas" Warren's cheap (in her use) lines. The system is absolutely rigged. But she is wrong that it is rigged for the "rich"; more accurately, it is rigged for the benefit of the broader political class/establishment. The "system" is designed to work for the benefit of those in and around the Washington Beltway and those connected to it (including some "rich"). Putting aside his genuinely offputting (to me anyway) personality, THAT is what Trump really presents an existential threat to, a government run for the benefit of the political establishment, and not the nation more broadly.
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      Well the princeton study used 2 decades of congressional record to prove only a few were represented by congress and those few had wealth in common

      This means most of us are not represented which is the main reason .Trump beat the establishment imo

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      • Taking the red pill reveals the self evident. Neither party wants to fix immigration even illegal immigration

        For there has been no action to do that even from the gop whenever they have had the numbers to do that. The question is why?

        The logical answer is that those being actually represented in dc do not want it fixed.

        And so the gop has played its non elite voters for decades to fool them and it worked until these folks finally noticer and voted for the only candidate that said he would do something

        That the law and policy is out of date as we are in chaotic times of mass illegal immigration that will only .worsen is certain. We because of our neocon pnac wars have flooded europe with muslim immigration that will literally. change europe demographically and socially. As we are flooded with low skill immigrants that will hurt our own low skilled that will drive up debt along with war spending eventually imploding us fiscally while neither party will fix it.

        The ruling elite here are so irresponsible and a clear and present danger as partisan politics among the voters keeps them from cleaning the vermin out of dc.
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        • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

          Meh.

          While I wouldn't disagree that the DC swamp and its lobbyist pay masters are a problem, outside of the DC corruption ring there's rather few barriers to people with the desire and the sweat equity to succeed. Sure, they'll face challenges, but in which worthwhile endeavor aren't there challenges? If you give it away for free, it'll not be valued (think of the condition of most public housing). The appreciation of the value comes from the hard work and sweat equity that you put into that endeavor.
          The only real obstacles are those that are inherent to reality, and those artificially created by government.

          In terms of reality, I am tired of hearing people talk about effort and inputs in terms of the ultimate value (as reflected by their earnings and wealth creation) as though that is what matters. Effort is an absolutely essential prerequisite for prosperity, but it is not necessarily sufficient. Take the current (utterly idiotic) pissing and moaning about the relative compensation of the men's and women's U.S. Soccer teams. People saying that they women "work" just as hard "practice" just as much as the men, and that therefore the compensation differential is nothing more than discrimination based on sex. Of course that is true to an extent, in that it reflects the fact that overall revenues and profits generated, but it is not like it is a discriminatory BUSINESS decision (in fact, the women get paid more as a portion of total profits than the men do). And then of course there is the reality (which we are not allowed to mention) that by and large, they are NOT doing the same job. They are playing against other women, the men's teams are not playing against women. There is a reason why the most obvious solution is not proposed by the women...to eliminate separate teams and leagues and have them compete against mixed teams, and have men and women compete solely on individual merit and ability against each other for slots on the same teams...because very, very few of the women players would make it onto teams compared to men. But of course if you say that (even though EVERYONE knows it to be true) it is tantamount to committing a hate crime.

          Of course there is another aspect of the "they work just as hard as the men" that gets ignored...there are millions and millions of people who "work just as hard" as both the men and the women in soccer, but in jobs that ultimately pay them FAR less. Hence the folly of measuring someone's worth based on effort and input, as opposed to the value the marketplace places on your OUTPUT. Who deserves to be paid more, a lawyer who works long hours, but loses every case in court, or one who works far fewer hours (in reality, not billables *grin*) who wins? OUTPUTS, not effort and inputs.

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          • Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post

            The only real obstacles are those that are inherent to reality, and those artificially created by government.

            In terms of reality, I am tired of hearing people talk about effort and inputs in terms of the ultimate value (as reflected by their earnings and wealth creation) as though that is what matters. Effort is an absolutely essential prerequisite for prosperity, but it is not necessarily sufficient. Take the current (utterly idiotic) pissing and moaning about the relative compensation of the men's and women's U.S. Soccer teams. People saying that they women "work" just as hard "practice" just as much as the men, and that therefore the compensation differential is nothing more than discrimination based on sex. Of course that is true to an extent, in that it reflects the fact that overall revenues and profits generated, but it is not like it is a discriminatory BUSINESS decision (in fact, the women get paid more as a portion of total profits than the men do). And then of course there is the reality (which we are not allowed to mention) that by and large, they are NOT doing the same job. They are playing against other women, the men's teams are not playing against women. There is a reason why the most obvious solution is not proposed by the women...to eliminate separate teams and leagues and have them compete against mixed teams, and have men and women compete solely on individual merit and ability against each other for slots on the same teams...because very, very few of the women players would make it onto teams compared to men. But of course if you say that (even though EVERYONE knows it to be true) it is tantamount to committing a hate crime.

            Of course there is another aspect of the "they work just as hard as the men" that gets ignored...there are millions and millions of people who "work just as hard" as both the men and the women in soccer, but in jobs that ultimately pay them FAR less. Hence the folly of measuring someone's worth based on effort and input, as opposed to the value the marketplace places on your OUTPUT. Who deserves to be paid more, a lawyer who works long hours, but loses every case in court, or one who works far fewer hours (in reality, not billables *grin*) who wins? OUTPUTS, not effort and inputs.
            Did I miss it, or did you not mention the fact that fewer people pay to see womens soccer and some other womens sports ?

            Therefor, there isn't as much money made overalll so .. they aren't going to make quite as much and... Oh my God, we're all bigots who hate women !!!!!!

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            • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

              Did I miss it, or did you not mention the fact that fewer people pay to see womens soccer and some other womens sports ?

              Therefor, there isn't as much money made overalll so .. they aren't going to make quite as much and... Oh my God, we're all bigots who rdhate women !!!!!!
              So those gals on the View were lying this week when they said womens soccer was watched by more folks than male soccer and deserve to be paid the same as men?

              Well dems as a group have to be pathological liars or average working Americans would never elect any. Heterosexual white men voted for trump. For the dem party is the party of the professional upper 10 percent and illegal aliens who are entitled to live here as the dems tell them. The dems want the cheap labor for their professional class constituencies and black Americans don't want to be low paid servants anymore

              Since most in congress are rich they need cheap servants given such people dont like paying much to peons and they insure plenty of illegals are in supply

              Why would any working American ever vote for a dem unless they were below 83 in iq score?

              You can count on 2 fingers the number of dems who are honest and represent average Americans

              Yep the pickings are mighty slim.

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              • Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                So those gals on the View were lying this week when they said womens soccer was watched by more folks than male soccer and deserve to be paid the same as men?
                Of course they were lying. "Womens soccer" ? - who gives a shirt ?

                Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                Well dems as a group have to be pathological liars or average working Americans would never elect any. Heterosexual white men voted for trump. For the dem party is the party of the professional upper 10 percent and illegal aliens who are entitled to live here as the dems tell them. The dems want the cheap labor for their professional class constituencies and black Americans don't want to be low paid servants anymore

                Since most in congress are rich they need cheap servants given such people dont like paying much to peons and they insure plenty of illegals are in supply
                Another elitists scam surprise surprise *yawns*

                Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                Why would any working American ever vote for a dem unless they were below 83 in iq score?
                I have not a clue

                Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                You can count on 2 fingers the number of dems who are honest and represent average Americans

                Yep the pickings are mighty slim.
                Dishonest dems

                Dumb repubs

                What are we to do ?? LOL

                It's sad

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                • We have these nuts screaming about the "bad conditions" and "horrible way" these "immigrants" are being detained for "processing"

                  Some children died or were "mistreated" !!

                  Let us consider what a civilized country would do if such an invasion force steadily pressured itself into their country ??

                  I wonder what Australia might do if boatloads of poor people continually came to their shores ?

                  Would Australia build big "detention centers" to "process" these "migrants" . . do we think ?

                  That's what we've done.. but we haven't made enough "detention centers," we don't have enough people to process the millions marching into our country

                  What are we to do ??

                  America created this problem by allowing everyone to "immigrate" to America .. now we have millions of "immigrants" to "process" and we don't have the facilities, we don't have enough people, so bad stuff happens and..

                  It's our own fault for being too stupid to realize that we have a border and laws to enforce

                  There are limits that people with common sense put upon things like support for the entire worlds poor people

                  We've all but sent out invitations to every poor person on the planet, that says; "Come to America, we'll take care of you !!"

                  Here we have ONE senator that pulled his thumb out of his ass.

                  The rest might do the same if we shipped this problem to their neighborhoods where it belongs !!


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                  Sen. Ron Johnson: America 'Can't Take All Comers' At The Border

                  Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., on Sunday decried the surge of illegal immigrants at the southern border, declaring the United States "can't take all comers."

                  In an interview on NBC News, "Meet The Press," Johnson said the crush of entries is the reason for the deteriorating conditions at detention centers.

                  "The problem is the uncontrolled, overwhelming flow of people coming to this country illegally," he said, adding there's been an average of over 2,800 illegal immigrants per day this fiscal year - and since 2014, around 1.1 million.

                  "[It's] overwhelming our system," he said. "We have to raise that initial bar in terms of claiming asylum."

                  "We can't take all comers," Johnson added. "The goal of our policy [should be] to reduce the numbers coming in illegally."

                  "I would prefer we'd all understand the opponent is Democrats and their growing socialism," he said. "We need to hang together here" From my standpoint, I'd like everyone to get along because we need to preserve this country."


                  https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ron.../14/id/924345/

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                  • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    Did I miss it, or did you not mention the fact that fewer people pay to see womens soccer and some other womens sports ?

                    Therefor, there isn't as much money made overalll so .. they aren't going to make quite as much and... Oh my God, we're all bigots who hate women !!!!!!
                    Yes, you missed it, at least a reference to the fact: "of course that is true to an extent, in that it reflects the fact that overall revenues and profits generated, but it is not like it is a discriminatory BUSINESS decision (in fact, the women get paid more as a portion of total profits than the men do)."

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                    • Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post
                      Yes, you missed it, at least a reference to the fact: "of course that is true to an extent, in that it reflects the fact that overall revenues and profits generated, but it is not like it is a discriminatory BUSINESS decision (in fact, the women get paid more as a portion of total profits than the men do)."
                      Isn't that a bigoted, woman hating thing to say though ?

                      I mean facts usually are these days.... which is a strange phenomenon if you ask ME LOL

                      Liberals seem to want every one to hate each other. They even want women to hate men and seem to search desperately to find reasons..

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                      • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                        Of course they were lying. "Womens soccer" ? - who gives a shirt ?



                        Another elitists scam surprise surprise *yawns*



                        I have not a clue



                        Dishonest dems

                        Dumb repubs

                        What are we to do ?? LOL

                        It's sad
                        We could fix it at the ballot box if and when you have honest voters with integrity who have the ability to discern basic reality and place pragmatism above purity of ideology. Has to be bottom up action

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                        • Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                          We could fix it at the ballot box if and when you have honest voters with integrity who have the ability to discern basic reality and place pragmatism above purity of ideology. Has to be bottom up action
                          Yes, ...

                          if and when you have INFORMED voters with integrity who have the ability to discern basic reality and place pragmatism above purity of ideology

                          It seems like ignorance & foolishness are the new trends these days.

                          As for womens sports and how much money they make playing them...

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                          I've never paid to attend a women's soccer game. In fact, as best I can recall, I've never paid to attend any women's sporting event. The only girl I've ever paid to watch compete in sports is the beautiful and talented Caroline Thomas, the (now) 13-year-old karate champion.

                          Yeah, that's my girl, and she has about 15 of those first-place trophies — in both karate fighting (which involves contact but is not very violent) and forms, or "kata."

                          Like most other fathers, I would pay (up to a point) to watch my daughter show off her talents in almost any venue — whether in sports, performing on stage, or in a cooking contest (Caroline also likes to cook). However, it doesn't mean that the public at large is interested in forking over hard-earned dollars to watch my daughter perform — especially in the realm of athletics.

                          The "inequality" that exists in women's sports is nothing new, and in spite of what many on the left would have us believe, it involves nothing nefarious. The fact that consumers overwhelmingly prefer men's sports to women's sports is merely a matter of biology and psychology and not due to some mythical misogynistic plot. The facts and the data clearly bear this out.

                          Just as was the case in 2015 — the latest data available when I last wrote about this issue — in 2018, when examining sports audiences, men's sports dominated television ratings. Of the 50 most watched sporting events in 2018, 43 of them were men's football — 40 NFL games and three college football games. The other seven were events from the Winter Olympics.

                          When it comes to television audience and paid attendees, the professional sports in which women compete annually are not in the same universe as men's sports — or even horse racing. In 2018, the top-rated women's tennis event was the U.S. Open women's final. It earned a 1.9 rating with 3.1 million viewers. The top-rated women's golf event for 2018 was the U.S. Women's Open Final Round. It earned a 0.6 rating with 878,000 viewers. The top-rated WNBA event for 2018 was the WNBA All Star Game. It earned a 0.5 rating with 709,000 viewers.

                          Thus, as such consumer data imply, according to Forbes, from boxer Floyd Mayweather ($285 million) to basketball player Nicolas Batum ($22.9 million), of the world's 100 highest paid athletes in 2018, not a single female athlete made the list. There is nothing evil at work here; it is simply a matter of economics. Whether in person or through television or livestreaming on their phones or computers, fans simply prefer to watch men compete over women.

                          This does not mean that fans are "discriminating" against women. Fans are discriminating, just not in the way the "equal pay" loons of the Left would have us believe. I've jokingly told the left before how to make women's sports more interesting: allow men to compete as women. Forgetting that the Left takes jokesand makes them into policy, I never thought leftists would take me up on it.


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                          https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...economics.html

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                          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                            Isn't that a bigoted, woman hating thing to say though ?

                            I mean facts usually are these days.... which is a strange phenomenon if you ask ME LOL

                            Liberals seem to want every one to hate each other. They even want women to hate men and seem to search desperately to find reasons..
                            Yes, it's sad we live in the crazy-ass liberal world were objective, verifiable facts can, in and of themselves be "bigoted"

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                            • Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post
                              Yes, it's sad we live in the crazy-ass liberal world were objective, verifiable facts can, in and of themselves be "bigoted"
                              It's the tiresome game liberals play with words these days

                              We can all see it clearly

                              That they think were so dumb, that we'll believe the crap they say, is what's most insulting

                              It's hard to tell at times though, maybe they actually believe the retarded shirt they say everyday ??

                              Check this guy out, he was the guy who lasted less than two weeks as Trumps communications director, easy to see why now

                              He seems to be a tad light in the brains department too

                              The president is a "racist" for telling the four America hating women to go back to their home countries if they hate America so much ?

                              ... evidence is very clear that these witches hate America - there are videos all over the internet of the hateful, nasty lies and statements these witches have told .... The president has said NOTHING comparable to the hateful garbage emanating from of these hags !!

                              Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. who said Monday: "Weak minds and leaders challenge loyalty to our country in order to avoid challenging and debating the policy. He does not know how to defend his policies, so what he does is attack us personally. That is what this is all about."

                              Can you believe this witch ? She says the stupidest things Americans have heard from politicians ... every day, she tells lie, after ignorant lie

                              She says;

                              "...
                              He does not know how to defend his policies, so what he does is attack us personally... "

                              Which is what her and her ring-a-ding friends have been doing since they started !!

                              They've been attacking and saying vile crap about president Trump as long as they've been in their positions !

                              These creepy broads need to be shown the door !!

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                              "But here's the thing, if you continue to say and act in that manner, then we all have to look at him and say, 'OK, well, maybe you weren't a racist, but now you're turning into one,'" he said, adding Trump is "blowing very hard on a dog-whistle."

                              Scaramucci tweeted earlier the same day: "Would [Trump] ever tell a white immigrant - whether 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th+ generation - to 'go back to your country?' No. That's why the comments were racist and unacceptable."


                              ...Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. who said Monday: "Weak minds and leaders challenge loyalty to our country in order to avoid challenging and debating the policy. He does not know how to defend his policies, so what he does is attack us personally. That is what this is all about."



                              https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ant.../16/id/924718/

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                              • Here's what our elected muslim has to say:

                                "I believe this is a pivotal moment in our country. The eyes of history is watching us. Right now the president is carrying out mass deportation raids across this country, in each one of our districts. Right now the president is committing human-rights abuses at the border, keeping children in cages and having human beings drinking out of toilets.

                                This president, who has been credibly accused of committing multiple crimes, including colluding with foreign government to interfere with our election - this is a president who has overseen the most corrupt administration in our history and pursued an agenda to allow millions of Americans to die from a lack of healthcare, while he transfers millions of dollars in tax cuts to corporations.

                                "This is a president who has said 'grab women by the p***y.' This is a president who has called black athletes sons of [b*tches]. This is a president who has called black people who come from black and brown countries [a**] holes. This is a president who has equated neo-Nazis with those who protest against them in Charlottesville. This is a president who has openly violated the very value our country aspires to uphold: equality under the law, religious liberty, equal protection, and protection from persecution. And to distract from that, he's launching a blatantly racist attack on four duly elected members of the United States House of Representatives, all of whom are women of color."



                                She's a liar and a fraud, those who elected her deserve her


                                Here's what Chuck Woolery says about her - and he is correct;

                                Chuck Woolery, the former host of popular TV shows including 'Wheel of Fortune' and 'Love Connection.'

                                "I don't believe Ilhan Omar is a Democrat, although they are stuck with her, nor is she independent,- Woolery said in a tweet Monday night. "She is [an] Islamist at heart and soul, just using politics to further her Islamist agenda. She is [an] outspoken anti Semite, and a Racist."


                                [ But she gets away with calling the president a racist ]

                                Omar is from Mogadishu, Somalia, but the other three were born in America.

                                During the news conference, Omar said we're at a 'pivotal moment' in the U.S., and it's time to impeach Trump.

                                "It is time for us to stop allowing this president to make a mockery out of our Constitution. It's time for us to impeach this president, Omar said.


                                https://www.wnd.com/2019/07/hollywoo...on-ilhan-omar/



                                It's time for Americans to get a clue and stop electing enemies into political offices

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