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  • Another made up story/fraud

    Some of us suspected as much in the beginning.

    The story was suspicious from the beginning.

    ... A "gay man" attacked by some guys who shouted "homophobic slurs." .. and did some other stuff... maybe.


    Of course we don't dare talk about this special man, this "gay" man or we might be accused of being *GASP*

    Homophobic !!

    More BS from a special protected group... that we dare not criticize or say anything bad about...

    A liar is a liar is a liar though



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    Chicago police confirmed Thursday that detectives are talking to two persons of interest in connection with the alleged attack on "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett.

    Multiple sources have told ABC7 Eyewitness News that police are investigating whether Smollett and the two men staged the attack allegedly because Smollett was being written off of "Empire."

    A source familiar with the investigation told the ABC7 I-Team that Smollett failed to appear for an interview with detectives earlier Thursday.

    Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson contacted ABC7 to say they are continuing to treat Smollett as a victim and the investigation remains ongoing.

    A source briefed on the Smollett investigation confirmed to ABC News that Chicago police are questioning the two persons of interest -- one of whom has appeared on "Empire."

    The law enforcement official also told ABC News that the homes of the persons of interest were raided Wednesday night. Police removed shoes, electronic devices and other items they believe could help them determine if the two people played any role in the assault from those homes.

    Chicago police said they "cannot confirm any of those reports." No charges have been filed.

    Earlier, police said the two persons of interest are not suspects and have not been charged. Investigators are only talking with them at this time. The two were picked up Wednesday night at O'Hare International Airport, police said.

    Smollett said he was attacked around 2 a.m. on Jan. 29 in the 300-block of East North Water Street in Chicago's Streeterville neighborhood. He told police two masked men shouted homophobic slurs at him, attacked him, put a rope around his neck and poured a liquid on him that smelled like bleach.

    Smollett, 36, is black and openly gay.


    https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smol...mpire/5138497/


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    Police Believe Jussie Smollett Attack Was Staged (Report)

    Chicago police have concluded that the alleged attack on Empire actor Jussie Smollettwas staged, according to two local media reports.

    The Chicago Police Department pushed back on the reporting, saying the notion that the attack was a hoax was unconfirmed by case detectives.

    Police spent much of Thursday interviewing two persons of interest in the case, who are believed to have been seen on surveillance images on the night of the attack.

    Rob Elgas, a reporter at ABC 7 in Chicago, reported Thursday afternoon that multiple sources said Smollett and the two men staged the attack because his character was being written off the show. Brad Edwards, a reporter at CBS Chicago, cited a source who said investigators believe the non-cooperating 2 witnesses are co-conspirators in a potentially staged attack.




    https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/jus...ed-1203140464/


  • #2
    Show of hands... who saw this coming pretty much from day one?
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    OK,looks like everyone...wait,wheres redrover?

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    • #3
      What was this dudes motive though ?

      Why make up a story about being assaulted ?

      What ?

      For the sole purpose of showing that there are still some "homophobes" out there roaming around ??

      No surprise there.

      That there are now MORE "homophobes" out there roaming around... DANGEROUS "homophobes" - thanks to liberal democrats and their dumb ideas about importing more people from the middle east.

      People who follow Islam... yeah, those folks... those folks that murder gay people.

      Why this guy thinks he needs to make up a fake story about being attacked by "homophobes".???.. be patient ! Democrats are bringing more in as fast as they can !

      It can be real !!!

      No need to make up a fake !!

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      • #4
        Word from local media is, he was about to be written out of the Empire script. So he is attacked because he is a homosexual and no producer with a heart will write him out... hes getting too much media attention. At least thats how those kinds of plans usually go.

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        • #5
          Nigerian immigrants ??

          These guys went back to Nigeria "..immediately after the "attack."" ???

          It's looking like just another "anti-trump" hoax.

          How bizarre these people are.

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          Two Nigerian immigrants to be charged for Jussie Smollett 'hate crime'

          It has been two and a half weeks since Jussie Smollett reported that he was the victim of a hate crime, and in that time, his story has fallen apart completely.

          A CBS Chicago reporter broke the news Thursday evening that the home of the two "persons of interests" in the widely circulated community alert was raided by Chicago police. In that raid, they seized a list of items including multiple containers of bleach, a "red hat," an Empire script, a Mossberg rifle, and two computers. The home is occupied by the two men, and at least one is an extra on Jussie Smollett's show, Empire. The pair left for their home country of Nigeria immediately after the "attack."

          ..these men were taken into custody at O'Hare Airport Wednesday night when they re-entered the country and were immediately brought in for questioning by police, who had been monitoring their travels. An attorney for the two Nigerian men said charges against her clients are expected to be filed on Friday. According to the TMZ report, Jussie Smollett was picked up Thursday morning and has also been interrogated. While it is continuing to update its story, it should be noted that TMZ was the first to break Jussie's story and make the first claim that the alleged assault was committed by Trump-supporters.

          TMZ's reporters are now reframing the story to represent the hoax that it is.

          ...police were able to crack the case after their request for Smollett's call log was denied by the actor. They subpoenaed the phone records instead and continued to publicly treat Smollett as a victim of a hate crime. When he finally turned over a PDF file of his call log nearly two weeks later, investigators were able to examine which calls the actor omitted compared to their own official copy. His own tampering with the call log helped police narrow down which calls were important and who might have assisted in the hoax.

          It's not clear whether Smollett was even attacked. If he was assaulted at the hands of co-conspirators from his own show or if he was attacked randomly (not an unlikely scenario in Chicago) and used it as an opportunity to promote his anti-Trump rhetoric, he has lied and opened himself up to criminal charges.

          The mainstream media are just much as to blame and acted every part of the accomplices.

          They used an uncorroborated story and pushed it as if it were real and used it to crucify American culture. They used phrases like "epidemic of hate crimes" and emotionally charged language to make claims about all Trump-supporters that were always unsubstantiated.


          [ Much like the idiotic trash emanating from our friend redrovers keyboard so regularly ]

          This is only the most highly publicized hate crime hoax since Trump was elected president.

          Breitbart keeps a running list of over a hundred others, and most of the perpetrators claimed to have done it to "
          raise awareness of issues in this country."

          [ so these hoaxsters are manufacturing "hate crimes" to "raise awareness." They're certainly raising awareness. Raising awareness that the left is desperate, sick, dishonest and hateful - willing to do ANYTHING ! ]

          Jussie Smollett has made what fame he had by being a social justice warrior, staunchly opposed to President Trump and creating an identity all about standing up to racism.

          I imagine he dealt with a real assault to his worldview when all these MAGA hat-wearing bigots never actually materialized. He could have re-evaluated his own misaligned beliefs, but instead, he manufactured a fake hate crime in order to validate the idea that American culture is still battling a racist front.

          Jussie Smollett; countless celebrities; and the mainstream news, which propagated this hoax as if it were true, have done more to divide Americans along racial lines than the people they are supposedly against. The demand for racism has far outpaced the supply, so radicals like Smollett now use homemade alternatives.


          https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ate_crime.html

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          • #6
            I know you guys are just sticklers for the truth so I'll just put this link here.

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47249574

            And, I'm out again. Bye.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
              I know you guys are just sticklers for the truth so I'll just put this link here.

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47249574

              And, I'm out again. Bye.
              Yes, the truth....

              .... and what IS the truth ??

              When we have a "media" that will feed us BS and people that assist it ......and feed and feed and lie and lie....

              That "truth" ... what that is ???

              So you found a source of information that gives a different version of "the truth"

              ,...and like this whole story about president Trump "colluding with Russia," it's now a story in "the news" and a lot of people believe it ...

              and the truth will eventually come out !!!

              So long after that few will care or remember...

              ..... But in the meantime, the bullshirt sells !! LOL

              Which ????

              https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...391#post560391

              Or

              https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47249574

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                I know you guys are just sticklers for the truth so I'll just put this link here.

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47249574

                And, I'm out again. Bye.
                This post by Peter confirms my belief that it may be time to shut down this moribund discussion forum. Is it a surprise that not many thoughtful people want to discuss the theory that the Democratic party is controlled by Satin. It would seem to me that you and David could carry this nonsense on via email. It's a shame because Peter is just the kind of guy who could breathe a little life back into this site.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  This post by Peter confirms my belief that it may be time to shut down this moribund discussion forum. Is it a surprise that not many thoughtful people want to discuss the theory that the Democratic party is controlled by Satin. It would seem to me that you and David could carry this nonsense on via email. It's a shame because Peter is just the kind of guy who could breathe a little life back into this site.
                  Peter got mad and left because there weren't enough - in his mind - members who supported his own views.

                  I've been here a very long time. I was here when the place was dominated by hard left-wingers and trolls of a hundred different varieties. I toughed it out.

                  But I do know how maddening it can be to be in the minority on a forum.

                  Be patient... one never knows, it may go back to being dominated by the other side... the idea horrifies me, but... wouldn't you love it ???

                  Of course you would LOL

                  But it seems that society, politics etc. does do a swing back and forth at times so.....

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                  • #10
                    Captain Trips, I left because this is not a place for actual debate it's a circle jerk for the 5 active conservative posters you have left.
                    It doesn't matter how well or not a point is made the fact is you have no interest in seeing liberals and liberalism as anything other than evil and only supported by people with a mental illness.

                    Have you never considered why there are so few liberals on here in the last 5 years? You moaning that there was a time when there were liberals on this forum doesn't matter as the state of the place now is completely uninviting to even moderate republicans (who you instantly call RINO's for having the temerity to have different ideas about republican policies to you) let alone middle of the road voters or liberals.

                    Have fun being on a forum with less than 10 active posters.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      This post by Peter confirms my belief that it may be time to shut down this moribund discussion forum. Is it a surprise that not many thoughtful people want to discuss the theory that the Democratic party is controlled by Satin. It would seem to me that you and David could carry this nonsense on via email. It's a shame because Peter is just the kind of guy who could breathe a little life back into this site.
                      Thank's for the support but I'd rather just have this quick input and go again as I honestly see hope that the usual suspects here will budge even one inch on the lopsided view they have about politics. I've been lurking lately and seen the shit they throw at you and it just goes to prove my point about this place being completely closed to adult and open debate.

                      By all means they can have opposing views to you but the abuse they're hurling is unacceptable and when it's coming from moderators it's doubly disappointing. Maybe it is time this place closed down.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        Captain Trips, I left because this is not a place for actual debate it's a circle jerk for the 5 active conservative posters you have left.
                        A "Circle Jerk" Eh ?

                        Insulting words motivated by anger don't help your case.

                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        It doesn't matter how well or not a point is made the fact is you have no interest in seeing liberals and liberalism as anything other than evil and only supported by people with a mental illness.
                        So many "liberals" are suffering from some kind of mental issue, it's very tiresome.

                        Only mental problems let people deny facts and still support ideas that have historically shown that they don't work.

                        Not all on the left suffer from mental issues, but many do.

                        Sorry if that angers you, but there's endless evidence of this.

                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        Have you never considered why there are so few liberals on here in the last 5 years? You moaning that there was a time when there were liberals on this forum doesn't matter as the state of the place now is completely uninviting to even moderate republicans (who you instantly call RINO's for having the temerity to have different ideas about republican policies to you) let alone middle of the road voters or liberals.
                        More anger... let it go man.

                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        Thank's for the support but I'd rather just have this quick input and go again as I honestly see hope that the usual suspects here will budge even one inch on the lopsided view they have about politics. I've been lurking lately and seen the shit they throw at you and it just goes to prove my point about this place being completely closed to adult and open debate.
                        The place is actually open to "adult and open debate."

                        IF there are any honest adults able to make a case for what they say and believe.

                        Spewing hate & lies about people isn't part of this.

                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        By all means they can have opposing views to you but the abuse they're hurling is unacceptable and when it's coming from moderators it's doubly disappointing. Maybe it is time this place closed down.
                        Typical.

                        Liberals can lie, hate, use abusive language ... then turn around and accuse others of them.

                        Standard Method of Operation.

                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        Have fun being on a forum with less than 10 active posters.
                        Ok, you showed us your anger. Have a nice day.

                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        Ok this is a prime example of what I'm saying.
                        I'm not angry at all I'm simply stating why I left and how I see the forum now.

                        Your complete inability to see a problem shows just how little chance there is for change and why I won't be returning.
                        Ok again !

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                        • #13
                          Ok this is a prime example of what I'm saying.
                          I'm not angry at all I'm simply stating why I left and how I see the forum now.

                          Your complete inability to see a problem shows just how little chance there is for change and why I won't be returning.

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                          • #14
                            Let's get back to the topic - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...aud#post560384

                            Some of us suspected as much in the beginning.

                            The story was suspicious from the beginning.

                            ... A "gay man" attacked by some guys who shouted "homophobic slurs." .. and did some other stuff... maybe.


                            Of course we don't dare talk about this special man, this "gay" man or we might be accused of being *GASP*

                            Homophobic !!

                            More BS from a special protected group... that we dare not criticize or say anything bad about...

                            A liar is a liar is a liar though



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                            Chicago police confirmed Thursday that detectives are talking to two persons of interest in connection with the alleged attack on "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett.

                            Multiple sources have told ABC7 Eyewitness News that police are investigating whether Smollett and the two men staged the attack allegedly because Smollett was being written off of "Empire."

                            A source familiar with the investigation told the ABC7 I-Team that Smollett failed to appear for an interview with detectives earlier Thursday.

                            Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson contacted ABC7 to say they are continuing to treat Smollett as a victim and the investigation remains ongoing.

                            A source briefed on the Smollett investigation confirmed to ABC News that Chicago police are questioning the two persons of interest -- one of whom has appeared on "Empire."

                            The law enforcement official also told ABC News that the homes of the persons of interest were raided Wednesday night. Police removed shoes, electronic devices and other items they believe could help them determine if the two people played any role in the assault from those homes.

                            Chicago police said they "cannot confirm any of those reports." No charges have been filed.

                            Earlier, police said the two persons of interest are not suspects and have not been charged. Investigators are only talking with them at this time. The two were picked up Wednesday night at O'Hare International Airport, police said.

                            Smollett said he was attacked around 2 a.m. on Jan. 29 in the 300-block of East North Water Street in Chicago's Streeterville neighborhood. He told police two masked men shouted homophobic slurs at him, attacked him, put a rope around his neck and poured a liquid on him that smelled like bleach.

                            Smollett, 36, is black and openly gay.


                            https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smol...mpire/5138497/


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                            Police Believe Jussie Smollett Attack Was Staged (Report)

                            Chicago police have concluded that the alleged attack on Empire actor Jussie Smollettwas staged, according to two local media reports.

                            The Chicago Police Department pushed back on the reporting, saying the notion that the attack was a hoax was unconfirmed by case detectives.

                            Police spent much of Thursday interviewing two persons of interest in the case, who are believed to have been seen on surveillance images on the night of the attack.

                            Rob Elgas, a reporter at ABC 7 in Chicago, reported Thursday afternoon that multiple sources said Smollett and the two men staged the attack because his character was being written off the show. Brad Edwards, a reporter at CBS Chicago, cited a source who said investigators believe the non-cooperating 2 witnesses are co-conspirators in a potentially staged attack.




                            https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/jus...ed-1203140464/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post

                              Thank's for the support but I'd rather just have this quick input and go again as I honestly see hope that the usual suspects here will budge even one inch on the lopsided view they have about politics. I've been lurking lately and seen the shit they throw at you and it just goes to prove my point about this place being completely closed to adult and open debate.

                              By all means they can have opposing views to you but the abuse they're hurling is unacceptable and when it's coming from moderators it's doubly disappointing. Maybe it is time this place closed down.
                              Heres the deal,Pete.

                              you rightly observe (I will only speak for myself) my acerbic responses to liberal ideologies and comments. I have a great many faults, and amongst them, I count a low threshold for bullshit as primary.

                              Most (though not all) of the dyed-in-the-wool liberals with whom I argue have no rational basis for their argument. I love a good argument, but that presupposes a true intersection of opposing ideas... which are quite rare and have been in this community for quite a while. When pressed to explain or support their argument, we most commonly see liberals change the subject (frequently to something completely unrelated) or offer the weak-kneed well ___________ did it too or similar grade schedule pablum.

                              to be honest, Imdid not notice youd bailed until you came back here for some kind of parting shot, so if you choose to stay away, <shrug>, thats obviously your choice. However, if you decide to return and present your perspective on a range of issues, be warned, I will also lose patience with you if you become a lame debater like redrover has shown us.

                              if you hold a differing opinion, please feel free to,express it and, then (even if only subsequently, when asked) be prepared to back it up.

                              if that is not a code by which you can live, feel free to stay in your isolation.

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