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  • #31
    Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Agreed. Between flooding in of illegal immigrants / false asylum seekers, its clear that ClowardPiven strategy is their aim.

    Agreed. However they are far more dangerous than imbeciles, they are not stupid. Underestimating your enemy is often fatal.
    Then they're power mad and evil.

    Like all good communist leaders are.

    ... I do think they are stupid though... the history is there, showing what these ideas do to people

    Who is dumber, are those people who keep electing dangerous nuts selling socialist/communist ( The collective ) ideas.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

      Then they're power mad and evil.

      Like all good communist leaders are.

      ... I do think they are stupid though... the history is there, showing what these ideas do to people

      Who is dumber, are those people who keep electing dangerous nuts selling socialist/communist ( The collective ) ideas.
      Dumber? Look no further than AOC. NGD is a path to ruination of the nation's economy, and then look at how many Dem presidential hopefuls came out and supported the idiocy.

      I blame the liberal / progressive indoctrination that's laughing called the public education system and higher education.
      AOC should get her money back from Boston University, where she got her degree, I believe. Clearly it didn't work, and there was no knowledge which was imparted.

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      • #33
        Then the Chicago Sun-Times tells us that gun violence is the real emergency. https://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion...p-border-wall/

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        • #34
          Originally posted by redrover View Post
          Then the Chicago Sun-Times tells us that gun violence is the real emergency. https://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion...p-border-wall/
          No surprise this line from your article;

          "The dishonesty of our national conversation the manufactured fear of immigrants when the real and present danger is our own violent society and the stupidity of our gun laws could not be in starker relief.."

          There's no "manufactured fear of immigrants...."

          That's a dishonest game on words.

          No one "fears immigrants"

          We want our laws followed and our borders respected.

          Just like we want our homes and other private areas lawfully respected.... and we have doors and locks because not everyone is respectful or law abiding.

          Which is why we need a barrier wall.

          Reading the rest of it offers a very good lesson in dishonesty LOL

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          • #35
            Originally posted by redrover View Post
            Then the Chicago Sun-Times tells us that gun violence is the real emergency. https://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion...p-border-wall/
            EXACTLY as Nancy Pelosi asked them to do.

            Are you even paying attention? Odds are high Huffpost, The NY Times, the Sacramento Bee, and the LA Times have a similar (if not identical) article as well. Come on, man, youre not even trying.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by DavidSF View Post

              EXACTLY as Nancy Pelosi asked them to do.

              Are you even paying attention? Odds are high Huffpost, The NY Times, the Sacramento Bee, and the LA Times have a similar (if not identical) article as well. Come on, man, youre not even trying.
              Indeed.

              The Democratic talking points have been issued, and all the 'news' media outlets (print and broadcast) now have the approved narratives they'll be pushing, their potato heads parroting dutifully. In addition, expect the late night 'comedy' shows to be preaching the same thing for the next week / weeks.

              If it weren't so scary, it'd actually be kinda funny, this political propaganda the media (all shapes and forms) are pushing.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                Indeed.

                The Democratic talking points have been issued, and all the 'news' media outlets (print and broadcast) now have the approved narratives they'll be pushing, their potato heads parroting dutifully. In addition, expect the late night 'comedy' shows to be preaching the same thing for the next week / weeks.

                If it weren't so scary, it'd actually be kinda funny, this political propaganda the media (all shapes and forms) are pushing.
                Where do we draw the line on this national emergency stuff? Before you know it they will be calling climate change a national emergency. Not a Republican president. Too much Koch bothers money involved for that.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post

                  Where do we draw the line on this national emergency stuff? Before you know it they will be calling climate change a national emergency. Not a Republican president. Too much Koch bothers money involved for that.
                  I'm no fan of the decision to go with the National Emergency. I'd have much rather preferred that congress would have done their job, and made a better deal that would have secured the border and not left loop holes open for mass illegal immigration, as this last deal has.

                  We'll have to see where National Emergency order ends up. From what I've heard reported, he really doesn't have to do that, but then, while everyone is all focused on fighting the Emergency order in the courts, he's off working on securing the border via the other funds already available to him. Faint, bait, and switch, it would seem.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                    I'm no fan of the decision to go with the National Emergency. I'd have much rather preferred that congress would have done their job, and made a better deal that would have secured the border and not left loop holes open for mass illegal immigration, as this last deal has.
                    They should have done that fifty years ago !!!!!

                    There would be no argument occurring over a wall, IF they hadn't offered so many baits & benefits for people from the south to come here !!!

                    This problem was caused by the government.

                    Ship all these illegals right TO THEIR DOOR STEPS !

                    They made this problem, LET THEM HAVE IT !!


                    Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                    We'll have to see where National Emergency order ends up. From what I've heard reported, he really doesn't have to do that, but then, while everyone is all focused on fighting the Emergency order in the courts, he's off working on securing the border via the other funds already available to him. Faint, bait, and switch, it would seem.
                    Whatever occurs, we have a very clear illustration here of how entirely incompetent & unreliable our "government" is.

                    Like I said above, may THEY deal with it !!

                    Why in Gods name do "we the people" have to deal with this mess of our governments making ???

                    They bring in deadly drugs - ship it all to DC

                    They bring in diseases that were once absent in America - ship it all to DC

                    They bring in MS-13 - ship it all to DC

                    They bring us more killers, rapists and child molesters (
                    we have enough of our own ) - ship them all to DC

                    They've given us a large new prison population - break them out and ship them all to DC

                    DC owns this sh*t - that's where it belongs !!!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                      They should have done that fifty years ago !!!!!

                      There would be no argument occurring over a wall, IF they hadn't offered so many baits & benefits for people from the south to come here !!!

                      This problem was caused by the government.

                      Ship all these illegals right TO THEIR DOOR STEPS !

                      They made this problem, LET THEM HAVE IT !!




                      Whatever occurs, we have a very clear illustration here of how entirely incompetent & unreliable our "government" is.

                      Like I said above, may THEY deal with it !!

                      Why in Gods name do "we the people" have to deal with this mess of our governments making ???

                      They bring in deadly drugs - ship it all to DC

                      They bring in diseases that were once absent in America - ship it all to DC

                      They bring in MS-13 - ship it all to DC

                      They bring us more killers, rapists and child molesters (
                      we have enough of our own ) - ship them all to DC

                      They've given us a large new prison population - break them out and ship them all to DC

                      DC owns this sh*t - that's where it belongs !!!
                      I have no argument with any of this, mainly because that which was initially 'to serve the country' and then go back to running your own farm again, has turned into a professional career with the goal and result of being self-serving for those elected.

                      The political elite have failed the nation, and to challenge an incumbent and succeed, far more difficult than it should be. Seems we don't even have the option of voting them out.

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                      • #41
                        There WILL be a massive invasion & America will be over.

                        OR

                        America will jettison these socialists calling themselves democrats, until they abandon their hate America first, "fundamental transformation" goals.

                        Until they stop using the media as a tool of manipulation AGAINST the people & the truth.

                        Until they stop playing the hate game to divide everyone in America against one another.

                        Until they abandon their deadly ideas of socialism (see second article below for more on socialism).

                        They have to stop entertaining these fantasies of socialism.

                        They have to start being honest.

                        They have to give up their grand schemes about saving the planet from "global warming" - a lie still pervasively shoved into Americans faces every day by "the media."

                        They need to grow up, get real, and give up the arrogant snob act. It doesn't work any more, there's been too much dishonesty.

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                        Its a pivotal moment in the history of America, given the political divisions in which the nation finds itself.

                        With the largest party in the country being outed as opposing nothing short of national sovereignty, we can expect one of two things to happen in the next year:


                        1. The Democrats will lose majority support for such a radical position, one that is ultimately unsustainable for a free republic.

                        2. Americans will vote themselves into a national suicide pact.

                        Until recently, ORourke was an obscure former member of Congress from Texas 16th District and a former city councilman from El Paso from 2005 through 2011.

                        Whats notable about that six-year time frame? ORourke served on the council while the El Paso wall was being built next to one of the most violent cities in the world, Juarez, Mexico, a relatively small town in which some 2,000 or more people are murdered annually.

                        Its also interesting that ORourke argues the border has never been safer with the wall in place yet he wants to tear it down.

                        One thing you wont find in any of the stories about Beto ORourkes political history is where he stood on building the wall in the first place. No one in the press even asks.

                        Why didnt he ever mention not wanting the wall to be built in El Paso during his years as a city councilman and a member of Congress? Why did he wait until 2019 to mention that he wants it to be torn down?

                        Because he is a reactionary.


                        The question apparently never occurred to him until it was posed by President Trump.

                        If Nancy Pelosi thinks that walls are immoral, why isnt she requesting that we take down all of the existing walls between the U.S. and Mexico, even the new ones just built in San Diego at their very strong urging? Trump tweeted. Let millions of unchecked strangers just flow into the U.S.

                        It was only following that suggestion by Trump and specific questions from reporters of ORourke that he came out not only against building any new border security walls but tearing the existing wall down in El Paso.

                        Yes, absolutely. Id take the wall down, ORourke said.

                        He now even claims walls dont prevent deaths at the border but cause them.

                        Nancy Pelosi, who supported billions in spending in previous border walls, now calls them immoral.

                        Now that Democrats have been smoked out on their true border positions, with some calling for the abolition of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, will Americans lurch further left with them, or will their increasingly radical positions hurt them at the polls?

                        And, if the Democrats get their way, what will happen when the walls come tumbling down?


                        https://www.wnd.com/2019/02/when-the...tumbling-down/


                        Socialists & socialism must be rejected always. Socialism destroys.

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                        What Howard Fast discovered in 1957 has never been taught to the latest generation of young people.

                        Yet, it "is a cold, hard and disturbing fact that, during the 20th century, socialist regimes -- also called 'communist' and 'Marxist' and 'People's Republic' regimes -- have been responsible for the intentional or negligent murder of more than 100 million people." It is vital to remember that "socialism, communism, and Marxism, [are] all variants of the same disease." They are all false ideologies which bring suffering.

                        Howard Fast was devoted to communism but eventually realized that it needed to be exposed so that its tenets would wither and die. He wrote that "an idea must be bent over the anvil of truth to see if it can survive some strong blows." As an important literary figure in the Communist Party, Howard Fast's defection was a shock.

                        He had spent thirteen years as a devotee to Communism until Nikita Khrushchev's "secret report" finally revealed the "terror, the fear, the hollow pretenses, the bestiality, [and] the inhumanity that characterized the leadership."

                        Khrushchev "exposed the mechanism of terror and the system of arbitrary rule that had dominated the country for thirty years. He deployed dozens of documents and a wealth of detail to reveal the brutal character of the terror. The document catalogued the assassinations, the lawless mass deportations of non-Russian peoples, and the methodical falsification of history written by Stalin himself." Khrushchev revealed that "Stalin was a bloodthirsty criminal responsible for systematic physical and psychological terror."

                        Nomenclature is vital and Emina Melonic has written in "Collectivism and Contradiction," that "the phenomenon of collectivism is nothing new.

                        Collectivism does the most damage to the order of things when it becomes a political reality, such as with national Socialism and Communism.


                        Both ideologies not only contributed to the erosion of the society that values ethics but its proponents committed mass murder and genocide -- all in the name of a collectivist unit that was supposedly meant to bring people together."

                        In fact, "[c]ollectivism has an entirely different form in our present time; it is insidious because it revels in the ambiguity of concepts. Without a doubt, people have a desire to be part of a larger reality and sometimes this desire is born out of good intentions.

                        But the failure of such nave people lies in an inability to see the difference between a collective and a community.

                        The intellectual and societal neglect of this rather large and important distinction has created a totalitarian monster originating mostly from a mutated version of Marxism and the newly formed globalist ideology. Today, 'conquering the world' means eradicating the society which values both the good and the beautiful under the guise of compassion, care, and a so-called 'one-world togetherness.'"

                        Thus, the left "has created a society that promotes diversity as long as that diversity fits into a particular ideological category which makes a distinction between 'us' and 'them.'"

                        Hence, "an individual has no capability to make his own decisions and choices because that requires targeted and precise deliberation. The only choice... such an individual can make is to cease having control over his own decisions."

                        As Investor's Business Daily highlights, "students today are relentlessly drilled with a progressive catechism of guilt over America's long-admitted shortcomings and history. The result is a generation raised on moral equivalency, diversity and a jaundiced view of their nation's own past." It is no wonder that "such anti-Americanism and socialist ideas go hand in hand."

                        Apart from the degradation of the spirit and the eventual loss in life, socialism costs a great deal of money.

                        For example, "Sen. Warren's blue print for democratic socialism would cost the U.S. $42 trillion, requiring tax rates on everyone of 60% or higher." Moreover, under Ocasio-Cortezs New Green Deal "the United States of America would certainly collapse. On the left, 'from each' comes first, and the deal takes away the peoples mobility. 'To each' comes last, and the people get only the health care the government wants them to have.


                        Promoters such as Kamala Harris dont even bother to lie about it." Moreover, "other deprivations would be sure to follow, as they did in the USSR, China, Cuba, and most recently Venezuela. The Green New Deal, in effect, is the Democrats version of the Khmer Rouges 'Year Zero,' a suicide note for the freest, most prosperous nation in human history."

                        The present-day resurgence of anti-Semitism among the Democratic Party and the British Labour party is sad but predictable. In fact, "Marxism and Nazism are political twins, offshoots of totalitarian socialism." In January 1953, Peter Meyer wrote in Commentary magazine that "Stalin is mobilizing anti-Jewish hatred and wooing anti-Semitic allies with the same purpose in mind that Hitler had. The free peoples should have learned their lesson by now." Yet 66 years later, have we?


                        It is no surprise that "[t]he only real opponent of fascism has been conservatism, which champions small government, free markets, Judeo-Christian civilization and individual rights" all of which are an anathema to those espousing socialism in America today. But it boggles the mind that socialism still garners support among American Jews today. When will they learn?

                        Anyone who has, for example, studied Castro's Socialism is acutely aware that this "Communist monster brought death to everything his socialist reign of terror touched." In fact, "Castro made a mockery of human rights. His minions murdered children and the left cheered.

                        It locked up black people and gays." Bernie Sanders extols Cuban medicine but this "is one of the lefts obsessions because it proves that tyranny and slavery in the service of progressive goals works. Cuban doctors are slaves and not only does the left know it, it supports and defends it." The ignorant Ocasio-Cortez nonchalantly maintains that her version of socialism will never resemble Venezuelan socialism that currently sees Venezuelans eating from garbage cans and doing everything they can to leave their homeland.

                        No matter what label you use, socialism is death. It cannot be allowed to metastasize in America.


                        https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...socialism.html

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                        • #42
                          While I might agree with all or part of this post, I don't think that they'll be giving up their political ideology anytime soon.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                            While I might agree with all or part of this post, I don't think that they'll be giving up their political ideology anytime soon.
                            How could we know though ?

                            Their "ideology" has undergone so many wacky shifts and overarounds, it might change again in five minutes !

                            These people worship "change" after-all.

                            Today socialists, tomorrow communists next week patriot nationalists - who can guess, they're so nutz !

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                              Why some British people do not like Donald Trump. https://teacherpoetmusicianglenbrown...-not-like.html

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by redrover View Post
                                Why some British people do not like Donald Trump. https://teacherpoetmusicianglenbrown...-not-like.html
                                A piece could easily be written critical of the British leaders.

                                Even with a nasty graphic image made of them LOL

                                "These stuffy, snobbish and arrogant Brits ...blah blah blah..."

                                So what ?

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