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  • Mueller Report has been submitted.

    Well it's finally over. Undoubtly The president will claim the report clears him of any wrong doing. We shall find out eventually.

  • #2
    Let's hope the report is published in full and we can all judge for ourselves.
    The only reason not to publish is to try and hide something and all that will do is fuel suspicion and the easiest way to clear Trump is to publish and show that this report which was not written by a Trump fan says he did nothing wrong.

    Pretty simple really.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
      Let's hope the report is published in full and we can all judge for ourselves.
      The only reason not to publish is to try and hide something and all that will do is fuel suspicion and the easiest way to clear Trump is to publish and show that this report which was not written by a Trump fan says he did nothing wrong.

      Pretty simple really.
      Actually there are some very good reasons not to release the full "report."

      Just a couple..

      It may expose democrats like barack & hilary, others too.

      It may contain information that the general public doesn't have "security clearances" to read.

      I'm not arguing against the release of it all, but we have to be honest what were working with here. A completely corrupt government and "media."
      They'll feed us 'little people' what they want to feed us.

      The real argument is over "who might be trying to hide WHAT ?" No matter which side of the political aisle you stand on, somebody will want to hide SOMETHING.. proving my point - A completely corrupt government and "media."

      So we'll wait & see if they release it all or not... show us how corrupt, dishonest and outrageous they are. Will be fun.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by redrover View Post
        Well it's finally over. Undoubtly The president will claim the report clears him of any wrong doing. We shall find out eventually.
        Its been reported that there will be no more indictments from Mueller's team. Not a single indictment of Russian collusion (conspiracy).

        How does this not exonerate Trump of any Russian collusion (conspiracy)?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

          Its been reported that there will be no more indictments from Mueller's team. Not a single indictment of Russian collusion (conspiracy).

          How does this not exonerate Trump of any Russian collusion (conspiracy)?
          I wonder where you are getting your information. This is what I heard.https://www.keyt.com/news/politics/d...day/1061934110

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          • #6
            Originally posted by redrover View Post

            I wonder where you are getting your information. This is what I heard.https://www.keyt.com/news/politics/d...day/1061934110
            No further indictments from the special counsel, senior Justice official ...
            https://www.cnn.com/politics/live.../mueller.../h_5faad7f4aecef9ce32644efca0d18dcd

            18 hours ago - Report submitted: Special counsel Robert Mueller has finished his investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. What now: ...

            Mueller not recommending 'any further indictments' after report ...
            https://www.foxnews.com/.../mueller-...tments-after-r...
            22 hours ago - Special Counsel Robert Mueller is not recommending any further indictments as part of his sweeping Russia investigation which effectively ...

            Mueller concludes Russia-Trump probe with no new indictments
            https://www.apnews.com/99cb78f4c67b431b9f3823b06a89179b

            18 hours ago - Mueller concludes Russia-Trump probe with no new indictments ... more Trump associates, including members of the president's family.

            Mueller won't recommend further Russia probe indictments - POLITICO
            https://www.politico.com/.../mueller...rther-indictme...
            22 hours ago - Special counsel Robert Mueller will not be recommending any further indictments in his Russia investigation, a senior Justice Department ...

            Special counsel Mueller has no sealed indictments as Russia probe ...
            https://www.cnbc.com/.../special-cou...nts-as-russia-...
            22 hours ago - Special counsel Robert Mueller has concluded his investigation and will not file any more indictments in connection with his inquiry into ...

            If there's no further indictments, and there have been no indictments for collusion / conspiracy with the Russians, then there isn't any. Do you think for one moment that Mueller wouldn't indict if he found conspiracy?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

              No further indictments from the special counsel, senior Justice official ...
              https://www.cnn.com/politics/live.../mueller.../h_5faad7f4aecef9ce32644efca0d18dcd

              18 hours ago - Report submitted: Special counsel Robert Mueller has finished his investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. What now: ...

              Mueller not recommending 'any further indictments' after report ...
              https://www.foxnews.com/.../mueller-...tments-after-r...
              22 hours ago - Special Counsel Robert Mueller is not recommending any further indictments as part of his sweeping Russia investigation which effectively ...

              Mueller concludes Russia-Trump probe with no new indictments
              https://www.apnews.com/99cb78f4c67b431b9f3823b06a89179b

              18 hours ago - Mueller concludes Russia-Trump probe with no new indictments ... more Trump associates, including members of the president's family.

              Mueller won't recommend further Russia probe indictments - POLITICO
              https://www.politico.com/.../mueller...rther-indictme...
              22 hours ago - Special counsel Robert Mueller will not be recommending any further indictments in his Russia investigation, a senior Justice Department ...

              Special counsel Mueller has no sealed indictments as Russia probe ...
              https://www.cnbc.com/.../special-cou...nts-as-russia-...
              22 hours ago - Special counsel Robert Mueller has concluded his investigation and will not file any more indictments in connection with his inquiry into ...

              If there's no further indictments, and there have been no indictments for collusion / conspiracy with the Russians, then there isn't any. Do you think for one moment that Mueller wouldn't indict if he found conspiracy?
              Unlike you I don't have access to the report. If it clears Trump as you seem to believe, there should be no battle over releasing specific details of the report. I would be amazed if obstruction of justice isn't an issue because it was conducted so blatantly. Hold your breath I think we are going to see many more indictments in the near future.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by redrover View Post

                Unlike you I don't have access to the report. If it clears Trump as you seem to believe, there should be no battle over releasing specific details of the report.
                I never claimed that I had access to the report, but it's well reported, as I cited, that there are no further indictments expected from the Mueller investigation.

                I would be amazed if obstruction of justice isn't an issue because it was conducted so blatantly.
                Just because you believe so, or was told to believe so, doesn't mean that obstruction actually happened.
                The chief executive has every right to fire someone working for the executive branch, so there's no obstruction of anything involved.

                Hold your breath I think we are going to see many more indictments in the near future.
                Meh. We may. We may not. Who's to say?

                I for one would welcome Hillary finally being charged with her illegal classified materials on her private server, as well as her other questionable Russian contacts and involvements.
                I for one would welcome indictments against those that passed off the Steele dossier as foundation for issuing a FISA warrant, when they knew it wasn't anything more than gossip.
                I for one would welcome indictments against those that used federal government power to spy, and possibly frame, those of the Trump campaign.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  Unlike you I don't have access to the report. If it clears Trump as you seem to believe, there should be no battle over releasing specific details of the report. I would be amazed if obstruction of justice isn't an issue because it was conducted so blatantly. Hold your breath I think we are going to see many more indictments in the near future.
                  There was no "obstruction of justice."

                  That foolish accusation was disproven long ago.

                  I know we still hear the simpletons in the "media" suggesting it, but there's nothing there, sorry.

                  What if we see no "indictments" against the president in the near future ?

                  Idiots can be unhappy and hateful about who was elected president, but hate only ends up embarrassing people in the future.

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                  • #10
                    This is a quote from the twitter (sorry if I mess-up the link as I don't use twitter) Rep Nadler who's apparently the chair of the house judiciary which is something that exists.

                    "The Special Counsel states that while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

                    twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1109902268743196674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%

                    Well, that certainly muddies the waters as it doesn't help anybody.

                    So, Trump's kind of guilty but not guilty? Yeah, really helpful.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                      This is a quote from the twitter (sorry if I mess-up the link as I don't use twitter) Rep Nadler who's apparently the chair of the house judiciary which is something that exists.

                      "The Special Counsel states that while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

                      twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1109902268743196674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%

                      Well, that certainly muddies the waters as it doesn't help anybody.

                      So, Trump's kind of guilty but not guilty? Yeah, really helpful.
                      Pretty clear, really.

                      'Mueller's report didn't provide the answer we wanted, so we are going to continue the witch hunt.'

                      Now, what's so hard about that?

                      Hilarious to watch all the crestfallen Democrats on their complicit 'news' (political propaganda) media stating that 'this isn't an exoneration of the president', thinking they're going to get more traction.

                      It's like they can't get past: 'We used our strongest smear campaign Kung-fu against this one, but his pool numbers and job approval numbers keep going up'.

                      LOLz. What dolts.
                      Last edited by eohrnberger; 03-24-2019, 02:09 PM.

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                      • #12
                        So now the entire special council is part of the conspiracy?

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                        • #13
                          There has been no "collusion" found between Russia & president Donald Trump.

                          They're going to continue "other probes" though. They're still irrational and hateful. Never going to change..

                          Details of what we know so far ....

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                          The four-page letter delivered House and Senate Judiciary committee leadership Sunday from Attorney General William Barr, summarizing special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation concluded there is no collusion between Russian government and the Trump campaign.

                          On the topic of potential obstruction of justice on the part of President Donald Trump, the special counsel referred the question of criminality to the Attorney General.

                          "While this report does not conclude the president committed a crime, it does not exonerate him," Barr wrote, quoting the official report.

                          Also in the letter, the AG Barr and Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein have concluded, after full review of the Mueller report, there is not sufficient evidence to conclude President Trump has committed obstruction of justice.

                          The White House wasnt involved in any review or discussion of the Mueller report and didnt get a look at Barrs summary ahead of time, according to a Justice Department official.

                          Nothing in the Justice Departments regulations on special counsels would prevent Barr from releasing Muellers report once certain material is redacted, including classified matters and information about continuing law enforcement operations. But Barr has cited the departments policies against publicly criticizing someone who isnt indicted -- and against indicting a sitting president.

                          Democratic lawmakers already have demanded the full report as well as the underlying evidence so they can pursue their own investigations.


                          [ Those "other probes" I mentioned. They'll never stop because they hate Donald Trump, that is ALL that this is really about. ]


                          https://www.newsmax.com/headline/us-.../24/id/908446/

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                          4:45 p.m.

                          Attorney General William Barr says Mueller did not find that the Trump campaign or its associates "conspired or coordinated" with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 election. It also says that Mueller did not exonerate the president of obstruction of justice or find that he committed a crime.

                          4:40 p.m.

                          As described in a report from Barr to Congress, Mueller's investigation left open the question of whether President Donald Trump obstructed justice. Barr said he determined the evidence is not sufficient to establish that Trump committed an offense.

                          Nadler tweeted that after Mueller worked for 22 months, "Attorney General Barr took 2 days to tell the American people that while the President is not exonerated, there will be no action by DOJ."


                          4:28 p.m.

                          Sarah Sanders says Mueller "did not find any collusion and did not find any obstruction."

                          4:26 p.m.

                          Director of Oval Office operations Madeleine Westerhout adds on Twitter: "How many tens of millions of dollars did the American taxpayers have to pay to find out what everyone already knew."

                          Eric Trump, the president's son, is calling for a "simple apology" from the media for "the hell everyone has been put through" during the two-year probe.

                          In fact, Mueller did not make a determination on whether Trump committed obstruction of justice in the Russia probe.


                          ...


                          https://www.khq.com/news/trump-claim...c1bcf5adc.html


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                          • #14
                            Five things that didn't happen.

                            ... and one extra little thing that didn't happen... this crap isn't over !!

                            Irrational & nutty people never stop, read the final paragraph....

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                            1. Mueller did not indict Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, or other people whose purported legal jeopardy was the subject of intense media speculation in the last year.

                            2. Mueller did not charge anyone in the Trump campaign or circle with conspiring with Russia to fix the 2016 election, as was the subject of intense media speculation in the last year.

                            3. Mueller did not subpoena the president, as was the subject of intense media speculation in the last year.

                            4. The president did not fire Mueller, as was the subject of intense media speculation in the last year.

                            5. The president did not interfere with the Mueller investigation, as was the subject of intense media speculation in the last year. In his letter to Congress, Barr noted the requirement that he notify lawmakers if top Justice Department officials ever interfered with the Mueller investigation. "There were no such instances," Barr wrote.

                            So Mueller is finished.

                            Not long after the news broke, Fox News White House correspondent John Roberts said, "The feeling [at the White House] right now is that this is finally over."

                            Yes and no.

                            Mueller's decision to file a report and not to recommend any more indictments does not mean that the broader Trump-Russia investigation is over. Anticipating just this possibility, House Democrats ramped up new Trump-Russia investigations in recent weeks to make sure that it will never be over. There is little doubt that such investigations will still be going, at least until the 2020 elections.


                            https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...-investigation

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                              So now the entire special council is part of the conspiracy?
                              Mueller part of a conspiracy?

                              No, I don't think that, but do think that there were some seriously shady, unethical and even possibly illegal actions prior to Mueller's investigation.

                              There are some suspicious aspects to Mueller's investigation, such as why recruit staff from the DOJ when the DOJ called for a Special Council in the first place due to claimed conflict of interests? And why all the rabid Democrats on his staff with their connections that might pose conflicts of interest?

                              My comment was more directed about the Democrat scumbucket legislators who smear with their greatest Kung-Fu, from their high positions in government.

                              Poor old Adam PO Schiff, swore up and down that he had evidence of Trump / Russian collusion, yet, somehow, Mueller and his team didn't find it. I guess it must just be in his imagination. Cailfornia's Swalwell is in competition with Cailfornia's PO Schiff as to who can be the slimiest smear job representative from California.

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