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  • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
    [/I]Agreed.

    Seems that this is the task that Barr has set for himself, and it'd be a good thing, should he complete this task.
    Further, this self-assigned task needs to include the root cause, namely, the politicization of those government agencies and use of those agencies as political weapons by the Obama administration. This precedent cannot be allowed to stand.
    And the democrats will be going completely nuclear.

    If Trump accomplishes NOTHING else, it will be worth cleaning out the thieves, liars and rip-off artists in too many areas of our government.

    THEN maybe they can get something accomplished.

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    • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

      And the democrats will be going completely nuclear.

      If Trump accomplishes NOTHING else, it will be worth cleaning out the thieves, liars and rip-off artists in too many areas of our government.

      THEN maybe they can get some real accomplishments done.
      The Democrats and their complicit political propaganda media have been going nuclear for 2+ years now. How's this going to be any different or any worse?

      Agreed. It will be worth cleaning out the thieves, liars and rip-off artists in too many areas of our government.

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      • Mueller Report Came at a Cost Too Great for America
        Jason D. Meister

        We finally have special counsel Robert Muellers long-anticipated report, and all it contains is a bunch of information we already knew.

        Paul Manafort was a tax cheat. Did you not know that?

        Mueller, who was supposed to be dedicated to investigating the alleged TrumpRussia conspiracy, indicted Paul Manafort, whom President Donald Trump fired, for run-of-the-mill tax evasion that took place years before the election

        Trump was upset about the lies being told about him. He fired FBI Director James Comey, who, after breaking virtually every procedural norm in the Hillary Clinton email investigation, was following the advice of clearly biased deep state bureaucrats to pursue Russiagate. He thought that the interrogation and prosecution of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn were unnecessarily harsh and aggressive, and he told Comey as much.

        Did you not know that either? Of course you did. We all did.

        Beyond the fact that most of this already had been reported in the press, much of it, including the presidents justified complaints about this witch hunt, is no more than the natural reaction anyone might have if they were being hounded by the FBI, Congress, and the press over allegations of a crime that never took place.

        So here we areyet againcontemplating the latest bombshell.


        [ Which will only be more Bombast & BS from desperate stupid demorats ]

        Well be told that this changes everything, even though it just confirms what Attorney General William Barr already stated; that Barr was premature in his conclusions, even though he pored over the report for weeks in consultation with Mueller himself; and that we need to see the whole report, including redacted grand jury material, even though Barr is not allowed to disclose such details.

        [ Demonrats were never interested in law. If they were, Trump would never have made it to the Whitehouse ! ]

        Id like to believe that this will be the last such bombshell non-story, but if weve learned anything over the past two years, its that real evidence has never been a necessary component of the Russiagate hoax.

        Democrats such as Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), who repeatedly misled the American people about having seen evidence of collusion over the course of both Muellers investigation and the separate probe conducted by his own House Intelligence Committee, have too much invested in this to back down now. Like a teenager caught smoking by his parents, his lies are compounded by more lies.

        Attorney General Barrs summary of the Mueller report did not stop them from insisting that collusion must have taken place, and I doubt the full report will convince them, either.

        Moments after Barr concluded his press conference explaining the reports findings, CNN commentator Keith Boykin took to Twitter to declare it a total waste of time, saying, William Barr is a lackey for Donald Trump. He should resign in disgrace.

        Many liberals are also upset that Barr made the determination not to charge Trump with obstruction of justice, but the very fact that Mueller declined to make a prosecutorial decision on that issue proves that he did not find the evidence to back up the charge. Moreover, Barr made it clear that the president was entirely cooperative with the investigation behind the scenes, declining to assert executive privilege and encouraging witnesses to be honest and forthcoming.

        Liberal conspiracy theories notwithstanding, the questions of collusion, obstruction, and conspiracy are settled. Trump and his campaign have been exonerated.

        The remaining questions of political bias at the FBI and Justice Department, an improperly cozy relationship between the intelligence community and Democratic opposition researchers, and career staffers and legacy political appointees deliberately undermining the executive will be the subject of investigations to come, as Barr already has told Congress.

        While Barr gets to the bottom of those concerns, the question that Americans should be asking themselves is, Was this worth it?

        Was putting the entire country on an emotional rollercoaster for more than two years worth this empty, inconsequential report?


        [ it was, only to those still in diapers & unable to control their emotions OR bowels. The bratty toddlers AKA "democrats" ]

        Were the Pulitzer Prizes prematurely awarded to The New York Times and The Washington Post worth devoting news cycle after news cycle to a non-story?

        Was shaking the faith of millions of Americans in the very legitimacy of our democracy by trying to overturn a legitimate election result worth the boost a few politicians got in the polls?

        Now that Muellers report is out, its quite clear that it wasnt worth the price. Weve spent the past two and a half years obsessing over a half-baked conspiracy theory manufactured by frustrated partisans, and we have nothing to show for it other than the anger and distrust this witch hunt has left in its wake.


        https://www.theepochtimes.com/nothin...e_uXj1B4eKzB4s

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        • One gigantic fraud.

          Biggest fraud we've ever seen.... since Barack Hussein Obama.. the man who is behind every fraud these days. Who is a fraud himself !

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          Wow! FBI made 11 payments to Fake Dossiers discredited author, Trump hater Christopher Steele, Trump tweeted Wednesday morning.

          The Witch Hunt has been a total fraud on your President and the American people!

          It was brought to you by Dirty Cops, Crooked Hillary and the DNC.

          In the tweet, Trump cited Judicial Watch, which announced Tuesday that it had filed a new Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit seeking more records of the communication and payments between the FBI and Steele and his private firm, Orbis Business Intelligence.

          On the same day that President Trump tweeted more details about the relationship between the FBI and the Trump hater Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence agent who compiled the Democrat-funded dossier that got the Russia collusion narrative rolling, Politico reported that the Department of Justice is conducting an investigation that will likely take direct aim at Steele. Steele, Politico reports, is refusing to cooperate; meanwhile, more questions about his credibility have come to light.


          https://www.wnd.com/2019/04/agent-be..._orig=politics

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          The real criminals need to be exposed for who they are.

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          [There is] simply no denying that spying did occur on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, as Attorney General Barr himself noted in testimony before Congress, Parscale asserted.

          Barr went on to testify that there was a failure among a group of leaders there at the upper echelon [of the FBI] [and] I feel I have an obligation to make sure that government power is not abused.

          Now that the collusion and obstruction conspiracy theories have been exposed for the pathetic hoaxes they always were, the Obama-era DOJ and FBI must answer for their misdeeds and the scam that they perpetrated against the American people. Justice will be served.


          ..

          There is no disputing the points that Barr made especially the first one, Calrson insisted. Spying on a presidential campaign is a big deal, especially when it was authorized by a rival administration. Just imagine if a year from now the Trump administration allowed the FBI to surveil officials in the Kamala Harris for President campaign. Imagine if when caught, Trump pointed to opposition research generated by the Republican National Committee as justification for that surveillance. How would the media react to that story?

          Law enforcement should never be used as a partisan political tool no matter who it benefits but the media don't feel that way about Obama spying, Carlson contended.

          They refuse to admit it even was spying. Professional dumb person, Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post, attacked the attorney general for daring to bring up the topic at all. She called Barr [a] Trump's toady.

          CNN, meanwhile, assured its viewers that there is little evidence that spying occurred, but that is a lie.

          There is plenty of evidence that spying occurred, and we've had it for months, Carlson noted. In 2016 and 2017, the FBI wiretapped Paul Manafort Trump's former campaign chairman. Former Trump aide, Carter Page, was spied on extensively by the U.S. government even though it was obvious from the very first day that he was not a Russian spy. Last year, we learned that the FBI used an informant to feed that information from inside the Trump campaign. This is all spying. There is no other word for it.

          When Trump complained about being spied on, Democrats and their employees in the media called him a nutcase and a liar: He lied, He is crazy, It's a conspiracy theory, Carlson recalled. A lot of Republicans said that, too, by the way, and we should remember their names.

          He then provided a conclusion of his own.


          Russian collusion did not happen, Carlson impressed. Domestic spying during a presidential campaign did happen, and we have a right to know who participated in it, who authorized it and what their motives were. We have a right to know that immediately right now without redactions. And as it turns out, there was, in fact, a conspiracy afoot to hide the truth. But Trump was not leading that conspiracy former Director National Intelligence Jim Clapper was, as suggested in a previous appearance on The View."

          https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt...w-probe-coming

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          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
            ..... so, the long awaited mueller report is out !

            And now we know....

            That if the facts aren't what we want them to be, we accuse someone charged with examining them, of being a Lackey and a Sycophant

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            Barr a 'Lackey and a Sycophant' for Trump

            Rep. Maxine Waters Wednesday slammed Attorney General William Barr as a "lackey and a sycophant" for President Donald Trump and claimed he will submit a heavily redacted copy of special counsel Robert Mueller's report to Congress on Thursday.

            "He was chosen to protect the president of the United States and that's exactly what he's doing," the California Democrat told MSNBC's Chris Hayes. "I'm not surprised. I'm not even disgusted because I knew that once he came out and he said there had been no obstruction of justice and no collusion, that he absolutely stepped out early to defend the president, to protect the president. I don't expect any reversal of that."

            .....Democrats, though, are crying foul as Barr and former acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein plan to hold a press conference at about 9:30 a.m., almost two hours before the report itself will be released to members of Congress and then to the public.

            I never expected Barr to do anything that would be respectful to the members of Congress or to include us in any real way, Waters, who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, told Hayes. "He auditioned for this job."


            ....

            https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ma.../18/id/912239/
            I'm still waiting to decide if Barr is faithful to the constitution and rule of law, or if we're being set up for another let down. History has made me skeptical of everyone. I have to say though, I liked the way Barr handled the reporters at his press conference. He does seem like the level headed adult we've been hoping for.

            Was very impressed with his answers t the Q&A. Don't remember the exact words but he basically said that Meuller's report was for him, the AG, not the public. It was his decision. And he generously released the information to the public in the name of transparency. Meaning, just because the public want's the info, it doesn't mean they have a right to it.

            I also like that he basically stated the fact that it's not the job of investigators to gather and supply information to congress or the public about who is being investigated, but the only job they have is to decide if they have found criminality or not. Loved that he said he hoped that Meuller's intent was not provide info for congress that was not criminal. Basically informing the public that that would be acting outside the law.

            Excellent that he didn't bite and let the reporter set the conversation when she asked about his use of the word unprecedented as if he was being partisan to Trump and he responded with the definition of the word and got her to agree that there was no precedent, hence he just used the word properly.

            And again when he was charged with answering about when he stated that Trump was upset that the investigation was undermining his administration, asked as if Barr was giving his bias opinion on behalf of the president, then he answered with the demeanor of having to answer a ridiculous question, stating that what he said came straight out of Meuller's report.

            Of course the very best was the end when the reporter asked if it was inappropriate for him to have the conference and be able to spin the information before the public got to see it for themselves. And Barr simply said NO, and walked off. We all know the reported was asking because the media was pissed off that they were given the opportunity to spin the report to the public. IMO, Barr gave the press conference to prevent the spinning.

            So, so far I'm please with Barr. I am cautiously optimistic.

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            • Originally posted by msc View Post
              I'm still waiting to decide if Barr is faithful to the constitution and rule of law, or if we're being set up for another let down. History has made me skeptical of everyone. I have to say though, I liked the way Barr handled the reporters at his press conference. He does seem like the level headed adult we've been hoping for.

              Was very impressed with his answers t the Q&A. Don't remember the exact words but he basically said that Meuller's report was for him, the AG, not the public. It was his decision. And he generously released the information to the public in the name of transparency. Meaning, just because the public want's the info, it doesn't mean they have a right to it.

              I also like that he basically stated the fact that it's not the job of investigators to gather and supply information to congress or the public about who is being investigated, but the only job they have is to decide if they have found criminality or not. Loved that he said he hoped that Meuller's intent was not provide info for congress that was not criminal. Basically informing the public that that would be acting outside the law.

              Excellent that he didn't bite and let the reporter set the conversation when she asked about his use of the word unprecedented as if he was being partisan to Trump and he responded with the definition of the word and got her to agree that there was no precedent, hence he just used the word properly.

              And again when he was charged with answering about when he stated that Trump was upset that the investigation was undermining his administration, asked as if Barr was giving his bias opinion on behalf of the president, then he answered with the demeanor of having to answer a ridiculous question, stating that what he said came straight out of Meuller's report.

              Of course the very best was the end when the reporter asked if it was inappropriate for him to have the conference and be able to spin the information before the public got to see it for themselves. And Barr simply said NO, and walked off. We all know the reported was asking because the media was pissed off that they were given the opportunity to spin the report to the public. IMO, Barr gave the press conference to prevent the spinning.

              So, so far I'm please with Barr. I am cautiously optimistic.
              Many of us are.

              This entire thing though, it was a big fraud.

              Based only on hate and sadness that the "chosen one" lost.

              It's disgusting what these people have done to us all.

              Fake exposed

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              Glenn Greenwald, no fan of the president, produced what I consider the most detailed, fair response to the Mueller report:

              In sum, Democrats and their supporters had the exact prosecutor they all agreed was the embodiment of competence and integrity in Robert Mueller.

              He assembled a team of prosecutors and investigators that countless media accounts heralded as the most aggressive and adept in the nation.
              They had subpoena power, the vast surveillance apparatus of the U.S. government at their disposal, a demonstrated willingness to imprison anyone who lied to them, and unlimited time and resources to dig up everything they could.

              The result of all of that was that not a single American -- whether with the Trump campaign or otherwise -- was charged or indicted on the core question of whether there was any conspiracy or coordination with Russia over the election.

              No Americans were charged or even accused of being controlled by or working at the behest of the Russian government.

              None of the key White House aides at the center of the controversy who testified for hours and hours including Donald Trump, Jr. or Jared Kushner -- were charged with any crimes of any kind, not even perjury, obstruction of justice or lying to Congress.

              These facts are fatal to the conspiracy theorists who have drowned U.S. discourse for almost three years with a dangerous and distracting fixation on a fictitious espionage thriller involved unhinged claims of sexual and financial blackmail, nefarious infiltration of the U.S. Government by familiar foreign villains, and election cheating that empowered an illegitimate President.

              They got the exact prosecutor and investigation that they wanted, yet he could not establish that any of this happened and, in many cases, established that it did not.

              As he noted, here are some of the press accounts obliterated by the report:

              Paul Manafort never visited Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian embassy; Guardian reporting otherwise is utterly fake.

              Buzzfeeds claim that the President told Michael Cohen to lie about negotiations to build a Trump Tower is Moscow -- FAKE.

              CNNs claim that Cohen asserted that then-candidate Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting (bruited by Carl Bernstein, Jim Sciutto and Marshall Cohen) -- FAKE.

              Rachel Maddows charge that the Russians may be controlling our government -- FAKE.

              Claims by Marcy Wheeler (repeated by others, including the Washington Post) that the post-election contacts between Trump and Russia were evidence of a conspiracy -- FAKE.

              Also FAKE: the Steele Dossier, pee-pee tape stories, secret meetings in Prague, and corrupt financial dealings with Russia going back years before the election.

              Claims about the Trump Tower meeting in 2016 fell flat -- there was nothing criminal about it.


              In Greenwalds words:

              One can debate whether its unethical for a presidential campaign to have dirt about its opponent released by a foreign government, though anyone who wants to argue that has to reconcile that with the fact that the DNC had a contractor working with the Ukrainian government to help Hillary Clinton win by feeding them dirt on Trump and Manafort, as well as a paid operative named Christopher Steele (remember him?) working with Russian officials to get dirt on Trump.

              In sum, neither during the investigation nor at its conclusion did most of the American press cover itself with glory. Neither did the Democratic Party and the intelligence community. They deserve our scorn for deluding Americans for years, and I predict they will get it. People who are scammed may be loath to acknowledge they were, but they will. Reality bites.

              Scott Adams, as is his wont, tweeted the perfect response to those still reaching for straws:

              If you find yourself blaming President Trump for almost-sort-of-maybe intending to obstruct a witch hunt you have a mental health crisis not a political opinion.

              Theres ample reason to believe this entire investigation was designed in significant part to cover up the massive failures of Obama and our intelligence community

              Michael Flynn and the Intelligence Community

              (a) From 2014 on our intelligence agencies had evidence Russia was interfering in our domestic elections and did nothing about it. CNNs Scott Jennings came clean on this point. I can find no one else who did.

              The partisan warfare over the Mueller report will rage, but one thing cannot be denied: Former President Barack Obama looks just plain bad.

              On his watch, the Russians meddled in our democracy while his administration did nothing about it.


              The Mueller report flatly states that Russia began interfering in American democracy in 2014.

              Over the next couple of years, the effort blossomed into a robust attempt to interfere in our 2016 presidential election. The Obama administration knew this was going on and yet did nothing.

              In 2016, Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice told her staff to "stand down" and "knock it off" as they drew up plans to "strike back" against the Russians, according to an account from Michael Isikoff and David Corn in their book "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump".

              Is this some kind of penance on this holy weekend for CNN's past sins of omission? Perhaps. But Jennings then asked the hard question: Why did Obama go soft on Russia?

              My opinion is that it was because he was singularly focused on the nuclear deal with Iran. Obama wanted Putin in the deal, and to stand up to him on election interference would have, in Obama's estimation, upset that negotiation. This turned out to be a disastrous policy decision...

              But don't just take my word for it that Obama failed. Congressman Adam Schiff, who disgraced himself in this process by claiming collusion when Mueller found that none exists, once said that "the Obama administration should have done a lot more."

              A legitimate question Republicans are asking is whether the potential "collusion" narrative was invented to cover up the Obama administration's failures.

              Its not unreasonable to believe this entire $30 million hoax of an investigation was not only to undermine the legitimacy of Trumps victory over Hillary, but as well to cover up Obamas failures to respond to Russian interference to protect his crackpot nuclear deal with Iran.

              (b) General Michael Flynn

              The Mueller report indicates that General Flynn was under broad surveillance long before. Now comes news that there was an open, Russia-related investigation of Flynn before the Kislyak conversations ever took place during the 2016 transition period:

              Previously, the FBI had opened an investigation of Flynn based on his relationship with the Russian government.

              Michael Ledeen reported before the release of the Mueller report that, in fact, the entire investigation was predicated on ruining General Flynn because of his valid critiques of the sclerotic incompetence of the intelligence community.

              Stories by reliable analysts suggest that it was only because Flynn riled the intelligence community by criticizing in 2012 the CIA backing for the Sunni rebels fighting Assad, the basis for Trumps claim that Obama had created ISIS:

              As Clapper knows, Trump was exactly correct, although Trump didn't quite spell out how the Obama administration had aided the formation of ISIS. For that he needs Flynn. Flynn was the only head of a major U.S. intelligence agency who knew just how badly the CIA had bungled, who had done what to whom, and where the bodies were buried. He was the broom with which Trump proposed to clean house. I am convinced that the Deep State put the finger on Flynn and tried to frame Trump, in the belief that the best defense is a good offense.

              Michael Kennedy joins Ledeen and Spengler in asserting that the intelligence community was highly concerned that Flynn was going to expose them.


              Flynn was bankrupted by Mueller at the urging of the intelligence community, led by Brennan and Clapper.

              If the proper authorities turn over the CIAs rock and examine its underside, the result will be the exposure of an intelligence failure of galactic proportions.

              The CIA channeled Saudi money into al-Qaeda fronts in Syria and helped move a large part of the late Col. Qaddafis massive arsenal to Syria. The jihadists backed by the CIA eventually formed a good deal of ISIS. Heads would roll at CIA. And when I say proper authorities, I mean Gen. Flynn in his capacity as National Security Adviser, a job in which he lasted a month before the Deep State set him up and persuaded President Trump to fire him.

              The Benghazi incident never explained why the ambassador was in that consulate that night after complaining about security. What was going on? As part of a revived Hillary Clinton investigation, we might find out.

              Its Easter Sunday and Passover. For those who value truth, hang on. I think it has been slow in coming, but coming it is.



              https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...er_report.html





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              • As stated below;

                "That's what Mueller's probe really was: a taxpayer-funded anti-Trump opposition research team hiding behind a veneer of official legitimacy."

                It was garbage from the very beginning. Based on known garbage - The Steele document - trash created & paid for, by people who didn't want Trump to be the president.

                Just another example of the corrupting nature & lure of POWER and what kind of creepy, weird things people will do in pursuit of it.

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                With full Mueller report out, time to go after the real conspirators

                Well, there it is, for all of us to see: the full Mueller report.

                The 448-page tome the left has been anxiously waiting to see for the 700 days since Special Counsel Robert Mueller was first appointed proves beyond any doubt that there was no collusion, no obstruction of justice and that Attorney General William Barrs initial summary of the report was dead-on accurate.

                Sure, the 13 crooked, angry Democrats on the Mueller team no doubt left parts of the report ambiguous to raise concerns about President Trumps actions and motives.

                Sure, the leftist scribes in the media will breathlessly tease out a sentence here or a phrase there to claim that the report is actually being used by Attorney General Barr to cover up crimes committed by President Trump.

                But the only thing the media and the Democrats will accomplish is to further prove themselves as frauds to the American people, as the Office of the Special Counsel worked directly with their colleagues at the Department of Justice to determine which redactions of the report were absolutely necessary to guard grand jury-derived information and to protect innocent Americans.

                While the Democrats continue to cling to the fantasy that evidence of collusion really is lurking somewhere in the dark recesses of the Mueller report, the report itself makes it clearer than ever what any unbiased observer of the Russia story has been able to see for more than a year: Robert Mueller knew very early on in his investigation that there was no collusion.

                The rest of the investigation, as far as the president and his inner circle are concerned, was spent trying to find a way to frame President Trumps legitimate outrage over this attempt to nullify his election victory as obstruction of justice.

                There was no obstruction of justice. Mueller himself had to know that, which is probably why he refused to charge anyone with it, entirely separate from considerations of whether the Justice Department has the authority to indict a sitting president, which it does not.

                All there was, as we can now clearly see, was a rational reaction by a president who realized just how much of a mess his FBI Director and Deputy Director had made of the Clinton email investigation and saw the same people wasting taxpayer money on a politically-motivated investigation into something he knew all along was a baseless conspiracy theory.

                The executive actions Trump took in firing Comey and to seek accountability in his Justice Department were widely reported in 2017. The only information the Mueller report adds to the record is legally irrelevant chatter intended to be politically damaging to the president.

                Thats what Muellers probe really was: a taxpayer-funded anti-Trump opposition research team hiding behind a veneer of official legitimacy.

                For me, the most troubling part of this entire saga is that the Democrats who undermined the legitimacy of our democracy and the publics faith in our institutions in order to push their conspiracy theory almost got what they were really after.

                This was never about achieving justice for Russian election interference or obstruction of justice. It wasnt about uncovering a grand Trump-Russia conspiracy that I doubt most Democratic politicians ever actually believed in. It was solely about weakening the president politically by whatever means necessary.

                At least one Democrat is now starting to admit just how far past the bounds of professionalism, fairness, and honesty the Mueller probe went in its efforts to smear President Trump.

                Just before the reports release, former Democratic Sen. Bob Kerrey spoke of the delusion that has taken hold of his own party. He called the process of crime convictions that arose from the Mueller probe tainted, asserting that the people convicted of those crimes deserve to be pardoned, and chastised Adam Schiff for politicizing the House Intelligence Committee to keep the hoax going.

                This limited backlash from one of their own wont be enough to stop the Democrats, though.

                The gears of the lefts spin machine are now turning, trying to exploit this windfall of ill-gotten opposition research to their utmost advantage.

                Already, the worst of the RussiaGate cheerleaders are out in force, suggesting theres a cover-up happening and demanding that Barr un-redact the grand jury testimony and classified material that most likely contain the juiciest opposition research.

                If weve learned anything over the past two and half years of RussiaGate, its that Democrats will not accept any result short of removing the president from office. No amount of legal exoneration will stop the political witch hunt.

                Thats why weve got to start holding the parties behind this outrageous miscarriage of justice accountable.

                Barrs new investigations into just how we got here must now explore the numerous ways that career lawyers at the FBI and DOJ, along with a web of external actors, led us down a path designed to destroy a presidential candidate and eventual sitting president for the sake of their own political agenda and pursuit of power.

                The Mueller report is finally out for all to see, but the real truth must now be exposed so the American people can know that justice continues to be blind and that the rule of law in our nation remains safe from the nefarious designs of those who would subvert it.

                Let the grand juries begin.


                https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/joe-...F-fFqGV1m2SOq8

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                • If there is any justice in this country. The first thing that should happen would be the debarment of William Barr for his shameful misrepresentation of the Mueller Report. Drawing conclusions not supported in the report. Even people who thought at his confirmation that he would be an honest broker are coming to realize that he is nothing more tan another Trump stooge..

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                  • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    If there is any justice in this country. The first thing that should happen would be the debarment of William Barr for his shameful misrepresentation of the Mueller Report. Drawing conclusions not supported in the report. Even people who thought at his confirmation that he would be an honest broker are coming to realize that he is nothing more tan another Trump stooge..
                    I have a feeling that no matter who it was, if it didn't lead to Trump being thrown into a Siberian Prison, you would say;

                    "If there is any justice in this country. The first thing that should happen would be the debarment of William Barr for his shameful misrepresentation of the Mueller Report. Drawing conclusions not supported in the report. Even people who thought at his confirmation that he would be an honest broker are coming to realize that he is nothing more tan another Trump stooge.. "

                    The possibility that Mr. Trump didn't do the things he's been accused of, isn't an option for you.

                    Don't worry, you're part of a small group of people who think the same way.

                    Really sorry the facts didn't get you what you wanted : (

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                    • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                      If there is any justice in this country. The first thing that should happen would be the debarment of William Barr for his shameful misrepresentation of the Mueller Report. Drawing conclusions not supported in the report. Even people who thought at his confirmation that he would be an honest broker are coming to realize that he is nothing more tan another Trump stooge..
                      How are Barr's conclusion not supported by mueller's report? What indictments has Mueller made that pertain to Trump's collusion with Russians during the election?

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                      • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                        If there is any justice in this country. The first thing that should happen would be the debarment of William Barr for his shameful misrepresentation of the Mueller Report. Drawing conclusions not supported in the report. Even people who thought at his confirmation that he would be an honest broker are coming to realize that he is nothing more tan another Trump stooge..
                        Not true!

                        Barr is one of the only one's who actually followed the rule of law without catering to the mob.

                        Barr interpreted no criminality. If there was criminality regarding obstruction of justice, then why didn't Meuller state it in the report? Why didn't Meuller state in his report that he believed there was enough evidence to charge an average citizen with obstruction of justice, but will leave the decision to the AG because Trump is a sitting president? But Meuller said there was not enough evidence to determine obstruction of justice. A person is innocent until proven guilty. Meuller made it clear in his report that he could not prove Trump guilty. Hence innocent. You don't need to be an attorney to understand that.

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                        • Originally posted by msc View Post

                          Not true!

                          Barr is one of the only one's who actually followed the rule of law without catering to the mob.

                          Barr interpreted no criminality. If there was criminality regarding obstruction of justice, then why didn't Meuller state it in the report? Why didn't Meuller state in his report that he believed there was enough evidence to charge an average citizen with obstruction of justice, but will leave the decision to the AG because Trump is a sitting president? But Meuller said there was not enough evidence to determine obstruction of justice. A person is innocent until proven guilty. Meuller made it clear in his report that he could not prove Trump guilty. Hence innocent. You don't need to be an attorney to understand that.
                          Yes and Rudy Giuliani has weighed in claiming that there is nothing wrong with accepting campaign aid from Russia. This is the new normal in the age of Trump, but I have a hunch the Republicans will snap back to the old norms as soon as the Democrats start doing it too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.2f852d9f609e

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                          • Originally posted by msc View Post

                            I'm still waiting to decide if Barr is faithful to the constitution and rule of law, or if we're being set up for another let down. History has made me skeptical of everyone. I have to say though, I liked the way Barr handled the reporters at his press conference. He does seem like the level headed adult we've been hoping for.

                            Was very impressed with his answers t the Q&A. Don't remember the exact words but he basically said that Meuller's report was for him, the AG, not the public. It was his decision. And he generously released the information to the public in the name of transparency. Meaning, just because the public want's the info, it doesn't mean they have a right to it.

                            I also like that he basically stated the fact that it's not the job of investigators to gather and supply information to congress or the public about who is being investigated, but the only job they have is to decide if they have found criminality or not. Loved that he said he hoped that Meuller's intent was not provide info for congress that was not criminal. Basically informing the public that that would be acting outside the law.

                            Excellent that he didn't bite and let the reporter set the conversation when she asked about his use of the word unprecedented as if he was being partisan to Trump and he responded with the definition of the word and got her to agree that there was no precedent, hence he just used the word properly.

                            And again when he was charged with answering about when he stated that Trump was upset that the investigation was undermining his administration, asked as if Barr was giving his bias opinion on behalf of the president, then he answered with the demeanor of having to answer a ridiculous question, stating that what he said came straight out of Meuller's report.

                            Of course the very best was the end when the reporter asked if it was inappropriate for him to have the conference and be able to spin the information before the public got to see it for themselves. And Barr simply said NO, and walked off. We all know the reported was asking because the media was pissed off that they were given the opportunity to spin the report to the public. IMO, Barr gave the press conference to prevent the spinning.

                            So, so far I'm please with Barr. I am cautiously optimistic.
                            Agreed.

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                            • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              Yes and Rudy Giuliani has weighed in claiming that there is nothing wrong with accepting campaign aid from Russia. This is the new normal in the age of Trump, but I have a hunch the Republicans will snap back to the old norms as soon as the Democrats start doing it too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.2f852d9f609e
                              Democrats have been doing it friend. Are you really under the impression that no democrats have been accepting gifts from Russia and other nations?

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                              • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                                Yes and Rudy Giuliani has weighed in claiming that there is nothing wrong with accepting campaign aid from Russia. This is the new normal in the age of Trump, but I have a hunch the Republicans will snap back to the old norms as soon as the Democrats start doing it too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.2f852d9f609e

                                That's not a new line drawn by Trump, it's a line drawn by Hillary; after all, she's the only one who accepted aid from the Russians.

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