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  • Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post
    I still maintain, the down-side potential of Mueller's testimony is far greater for the Democrats than for the Republicans/Trump.

    If the Democrats are thinking that there is some smoking shoe to drop (yes, I am mixing metaphors) that Mueller omitted from his report they are fools. The report was the best Mueller could come up with (and it was pretty thin) and he made a concerted effort to get Trump. At best (for the democrats) this will be a yawn (Mueller himself does not make for a particularly compelling presenter), at worst his answers to questions from the Republicans will be damning, or if he refuses to answer what are on their face perfectly fair and compelling questions, he will look like he (and they...the "Swamp" more broadly) have something to hide (and it is becoming increasingly clear they do).
    I'm just skeptical

    We've seen how useless republicans are

    We've seen how vile democrats are

    But I do hope that you're 100 % correct

    If you are, this should end this trump russia crap once and for all

    May it be !!

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    • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

      I'm just skeptical

      We've seen how useless republicans are

      We've seen how vile democrats are

      But I do hope that you're 100 % correct

      If you are, this should end this trump russia crap once and for all

      May it be !!
      I would refer you to the John Dean debacle...the Democrats really thought he was going to be a compelling, public-sentiment shifting witness. Instead, I think the Republicans on the committee fared better with him then they did.

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      • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

        Mueller is going to testify before open congress, and, yes, I'm hoping that the Republicans on those committees will raise at least some of these questions.

        But you are probably right, that it'll signify nothing, have little to no effect, as the lamestream DNC Pravda political propaganda media won't cover either the questions nor Mueller's responses, and instead focus on what furthers their political agenda and political narrative. So low has the media and eso called 'journalistic standards' sunk; theirewpolitical narrative simply must prevail, regardless of how dishonest. Disgusting.
        I will watch it just to see if the gop will ask the hard questions. But basically it is theater. For the 2 tribes

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        • Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post

          I still maintain, the down-side potential of Mueller's testimony is far greater for the Democrats than for the Republicans/Trump.

          If the Democrats are thinking that there is some smoking shoe to drop (yes, I am mixing metaphors) that Mueller omitted from his report they are fools. The report was the best Mueller could come up with (and it was pretty thin) and he made a concerted effort to get Trump. At best (for the democrats) this will be a yawn (Mueller himself does not make for a particularly compelling presenter), at worst his answers to questions from the Republicans will be damning, or if he refuses to answer what are on their face perfectly fair and compelling questions, he will look like he (and they...the "Swamp" more broadly) have something to hide (and it is becoming increasingly clear they do).
          Indeed. Their crimes and malfeasance are coming to light more every day, but the media doesn't cover it, and instead covers it up with big loud trumpeting of something else, such is the responsibility of the DNC Pravda political propaganda media these days.

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          • Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

            I will watch it just to see if the gop will ask the hard questions. But basically it is theater. For the 2 tribes
            <*sigh*>
            Yes, seems national politics is little more than that, while the nation's real problems continue to fester unaddressed, such as we've seen at the Southern border. I'll bet there are a dozen problems just like it festering and building boils.

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            • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

              <*sigh*>
              Yes, seems national politics is little more than that, while the nation's real problems continue to fester unaddressed, such as we've seen at the Southern border. I'll bet there are a dozen problems just like it festering and building boils.
              I have watched reinactments of old hearings that came with teeth and repercussion. That no longer is the case. It is theater today and a joke. Clapper lied to congress and kept his high octane job. So its a joke

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              • Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post

                I would refer you to the John Dean debacle...the Democrats really thought he was going to be a compelling, public-sentiment shifting witness. Instead, I think the Republicans on the committee fared better with him then they did.
                They did

                May they have more successes !

                It's time for them to stop being afraid of succeeding ! .. just keep it up !

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                • Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                  I have watched reinactments of old hearings that came with teeth and repercussion. That no longer is the case. It is theater today and a joke. Clapper lied to congress and kept his high octane job. So its a joke
                  Indeed. The swamp rules DC, and this needs to change.

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                  • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                    Indeed. The swamp rules DC, and this needs to change.
                    We have rulers who allowed our cia to spy on its oversigt committee .and did nothing

                    So good reason for my skepticism.

                    Yet trump is supposed to never question his intel? The intel schumer said could get him 6 ways from Sunday. Msm never mentioned how this is a huge dangerous reality and we got cricket s
                    Last edited by Blue Doggy; 06-28-2019, 06:54 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                      We have rulers who allowed our cia to spy on its oversigt committee .and did nothing

                      So good reason for my skepticism.

                      Yet trump is supposed to never question his intel? The intel schumer said could get him 6 ways from Sunday. Msm never mentioned how this is a huge dangerous reality and we got cricket s
                      Indeed. Intel can manufacture and strategically place what appears to be condemning evidence against any random target person or entity. It is their stock and trade, their specialty.

                      The IC need to be brought to heel, and not politicized and used as a political weapon against political enemies as Obama has done.

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                      • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                        Indeed. Intel can manufacture and strategically place what appears to be condemning evidence against any random target person or entity. It is their stock and trade, their specialty.

                        The IC need to be brought to heel, and not politicized and used as a political weapon against political enemies as Obama has done.
                        Imo the cia should be torn .apart and overhauled per jfk.

                        Such power plus secrecy has destroyed our constitution and republic. No agency should be able to get a president 6 ways from Sunday and spy on its oversight committee with congress and doj not doing a thing or caring.

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                        • Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                          We have rulers who allowed our cia to spy on its oversigt committee .and did nothing

                          So good reason for my skepticism.

                          Yet trump is supposed to never question his intel? The intel schumer said could get him 6 ways from Sunday. Msm never mentioned how this is a huge dangerous reality and we got cricket s
                          And then flat out lied about it and faced no charges.

                          However, many of those involved are now (rightly) in AG Barr's sites over the blatant abuse of power (if not outright felonious actions) over the spying on the Trump campaign and the contrived Russian collusion narrative. Hell, even the actual level of effort (and complete lack of any credible indication of an actual IMPACT) was dishonestly blown out of any proportion that actual intelligence evidence supports post-election to soothe their collective cognitive dissonance over the outcome of the election.

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                          • Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post

                            And then flat out lied about it and faced no charges.

                            However, many of those involved are now (rightly) in AG Barr's sites over the blatant abuse of power (if not outright felonious actions) over the spying on the Trump campaign and the contrived Russian collusion narrative. Hell, even the actual level of effort (and complete lack of any credible indication of an actual IMPACT) was dishonestly blown out of any proportion that actual intelligence evidence supports post-election to soothe their collective cognitive dissonance over the outcome of the election.
                            Agreed that it's good that Barr, Horowitz and Durham's investigations are proceeding at a brisk pace. At best they have until the end of 2024, and at worst they have until the end of 2020. They'd best be quick about it, and start indictment and charges before the end of this year.

                            I fully expect all those charged to delay, delay, delay the court case in the hopes for a Democrat president to be elected to have all this swept under the rug (only so that the Democrats can do it again in the future).

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                            • The Russia crapola from the left has dried up !!

                              It's so sad for them.

                              After years of persecution by Deep State dirty cop Robert Mueller who had to fold his tent and slink off without proving that the POTUS colluded with the Kremlin, it seems that Trump just can't lose.

                              The latest blow to the Resistance comes with the news that federal prosecutors are unlikely to bring charges in their probe into whether the Trump Organization broke campaign finance laws.

                              The investigation was being handled by the vaunted SDNY which along with Mueller, had been pursuing Trump with a vengeance.


                              ...

                              https://ilovemyfreedom.org/trump-win...edium=manychat

                              Now they're grabbing for something new.

                              "The TWEETS !! YES !! We'll say he's a racist again.... " - liberal idiot

                              That's only going to last ... not so long... and they'll make themselves look dumb again

                              But they're going to try it on LOL

                              Omar sounds like our lost friend Rover !


                              A draft of the resolution, seen by Reuters late on Monday, said the House "strongly condemns President Donald Trump's racist comments that have legitimized and increased fear and hatred of new Americans and people of color ..."

                              "This is the agenda of white nationalists, whether it is happening in chat rooms, or it's happening on national TV, and now it's reached the White House garden,"
                              Omar said.

                              ..

                              https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/do.../15/id/924469/


                              Oddly, it's democrats that should want to get rid of the squad of stupid, or was it vapid ? Vapor .. airheads, I don't know, something like that.

                              But the stupid, America-Hating club of women in our government isn't going to help democrats

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                              An internal poll conducted for Democrats to gauge voter sentiment in pivotal swing states is raising major concerns for party leaders, as socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Muslim Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) with their frequent anti-American and anti-Semitic rants are increasingly seen as the face of the Democratic Party especially for critical swing voters.

                              The new poll [is] extremely bad news for the Democratic Party
                              , reveal[ing] how voters feel about AOC and Omar, TheBlaze reported. AOC and Omar are extremely unpopular and could cost Democrats both their House majority and the presidency in 2020.

                              The poll circulated by top Democrats was conducted back in May and was recently revealed to just one news group under condition of the internal sources anonymity. It was taken before House Speaker Nancy Pelosis latest confrontation with the four firebrand ultra-left House freshmen, commonly referred to as The Squad, which includes AOC, Omar, Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.). More negativity was also generated Friday, when AOC testified unnecessarily under oath, with Tlaib at her side about conditions at border detention centers that have been refuted and argued by Republicans as being dramatized and conjured up as another one of AOCs publicity stunts.

                              As AOC and the trio of fellow anti-American Congresswomen continue to grab headlines, Democratic leaders are finding that they cannot continue to silently stand by as if they agree with all the anti-American and often anti-Semitic and pro-Muslim banter coming from the vitriolic House members.

                              ...

                              One top Democrat who is doing groundwork in the 2020 congressional races indicated that the party must do something about AOC before she does irreparable damage heading into the election.

                              ....


                              https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt...king-dems-ship

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                              • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                                Agreed that it's good that Barr, Horowitz and Durham's investigations are proceeding at a brisk pace. At best they have until the end of 2024, and at worst they have until the end of 2020. They'd best be quick about it, and start indictment and charges before the end of this year.

                                I fully expect all those charged to delay, delay, delay the court case in the hopes for a Democrat president to be elected to have all this swept under the rug (only so that the Democrats can do it again in the future).
                                The last time we had a house cleaning of criminal and corruption was under Reagan and it was huge. Bush pardoned some of them. We stopped going after people in govt and big bankers and it enabled criminal and corruption

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