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  • #16
    Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

    Indeed we do. Trump is not the war monger that the left is presently making him out to be. They must figure that it is to their political advantage, otherwise they wouldn't do it, and that's about all the level of truth and their thought of what they are claiming.
    The left is accusing trump of war mongering? Hell they seem to think he should attack Russia for election meddling.

    Trump ran on ending wars of stupidity and seinvesting in the US. Imo if he wages war with iran driven by intel he will lose another term. And he seems to be serving the neocon agenda more and more as he surrounded himself with neocon vipers. Time will tell. Yet he has not started a new war...yet.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
      against Iran ?

      Do we think we'll end up in a war ?

      I suspect Iran wants this...

      Thoughts ?

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      A discussion about whether to send additional American military forces to the Middle East following the attack on two oil tankers will take place this coming week among President Donald Trump’s national security team, two U.S. officials told CNN on Sunday.

      The talks will concentrate on what specific forces are needed to counter Iranian aggression, although the officials said that combat troops are not being considered. Instead, the talks are to center on deploying more Patriot missile batteries, fighter jets and ships.

      Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan hinted at the considerations over the weekend when he said that since 15 percent of of the world's oil flows through the Strait of Hormuz, “we obviously need to make contingency plans should the situation deteriorate but we also need to broaden our support for this international situation."

      Already over the weekend, top national security officials met at the White House to talk about a proposal the Pentagon is considering to send more forces to the Persian Gulf region, according to The New York Times.


      ...

      https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ir.../16/id/920634/
      Well, depends on what you mean by "war". I suspect we may soon be engaged in military hostilities with Iran, but I think it will be limited to air and sea. What we will not see is an invasion of Iran.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Marcus1124 View Post
        Well, depends on what you mean by "war". I suspect we may soon be engaged in military hostilities with Iran, but I think it will be limited to air and sea. What we will not see is an invasion of Iran.
        Good

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        • #19

          More games

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          Iran's Revolutionary Guard shot down a U.S. drone on Thursday amid heightened tensions between Tehran and Washington over its collapsing nuclear deal with world powers, American and Iranian officials said, while disputing the circumstances of the incident.

          The Guard said it shot down the drone over Iranian airspace, while two U.S. officials told The Associated Press that the downing happened over international airspace in the Strait of Hormuz. The different accounts could not be immediately reconciled.

          Previously, the U.S. military alleged that Iran had fired a missile at another drone last week that was responding to the attack on two oil tankers near the Gulf of Oman. The U.S. blames Iran for the attack on the ships; Tehran denies it was involved.


          .............

          https://www.newsmax.com/world/global.../20/id/921186/

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post


            Why? It is detailed in that neocon think tank paper. P.N.A.C. available online. They listed nations to be taken down like iraq Libya Syria and iran and that we weaken nations like russia. We have followed that scheme since 911 with Syria being the only potenial failure.

            Apparently this is a potent force in DC infecting both parties and Intel at the top. The power this mob weilds is a threat to our apartrepublic and they transcend our rconstitution. JFK wanted to tear the cia apart as he saw the danger of secrecy plus power. Schumer warned trump on cnn to not mess with the CIA for they could get a president 6 ways from Sunday. Out press never made an issue from this earth shaking bomb shell!

            So our press is dead with .Msm eager for more war. And never question anything. Trump only got good words when he shot missiles at assad.

            A smart president would never trust the cia and always question them. Their history demands it! This is the. agency that spied on their oversight committee with no punishment at all.
            It might be nice if the president consulted with congress before he launches a new war. You can bet Pompeo and Bolton are hot to trot. When pressed by reporters Trump says we will find out. Watch out Iran here comes a fire and fury tweet. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...RWt?li=BBnb7Kx

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            • #21
              Originally posted by redrover View Post
              It might be nice if the president consulted with congress before he launches a new war. You can bet Pompeo and Bolton are hot to trot. When pressed by reporters Trump says we will find out. Watch out Iran here comes a fire and fury tweet. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...RWt?li=BBnb7Kx
              The fury of the tweety Trump LOL

              There's an idea for liberals to make fun of the president.

              I big yellow/orange bird - kind of like Sesame Streets Big Bird, except with a cool hairdo - tweeting LOL

              That would be worth seeing !!

              Can liberals actually do something funny ? That's the question...

              That would be funny though LOL

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                The fury of the tweety Trump LOL

                There's an idea for liberals to make fun of the president.

                I big yellow/orange bird - kind of like Sesame Streets Big Bird, except with a cool hairdo - tweeting LOL

                That would be worth seeing !!

                Can liberals actually do something funny ? That's the question...

                That would be funny though LOL
                After thoughtful consultation with himself Trump will do what his gut tells him to do. Perhaps he can convince our only friend in the world North Korea to drop a nuke on them.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  After thoughtful consultation with himself Trump will do what his gut tells him to do.
                  Yes, the orange tweety Trump will have to have a long conversation with himself LOL

                  Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  Perhaps he can convince our only friend in the world North Korea to drop a nuke on them.
                  I don't think him and Chuck Chow have shared enough raw pork Sushi for that

                  Yet

                  We'll have to see : )

                  Maybe you'll be in luck when they're both infected with 25 ft. tapeworms

                  They'll have such a deep understanding of each others pain ! LOL

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    Yes, the orange tweety Trump will have to have a long conversation with himself LOL



                    I don't think him and Chuck Chow have shared enough raw pork Sushi for that

                    Yet

                    We'll have to see : )

                    Maybe you'll be in luck when they're both infected with 25 ft. tapeworms

                    They'll have such a deep understanding of each others pain ! LOL
                    It might be time to bring back some of those neocon chicken hawks, where are you Paul Wolfowitz? Your country needs you once again.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      It might be time to bring back some of those neocon chicken hawks, where are you Paul Wolfowitz? Your country needs you once again.
                      I suspect that it's not going to escalate into a shooting war, nor one with 'boots on the ground'.

                      Trump doesn't want such a thing, and I believe will resist the so called 'Chicken Hawks', and Iran knows full well that if it came to a shooting war, it'd be over before they knew it, and it would be a serious loss for the Theocratic Mullah's in the eye's of their people, of whom they continue to suppress, quell, subjugate and abuse.

                      Remember 2 years ago in Syria with the cruise missile strike? Yeah, it'll be something like that at most, from my prognostication.

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                      • #26

                        Decided against it at the last minute

                        Good thing I say

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                        President Donald Trump on Friday said he blocked a planned military strike against Iran because it would not have been a proportionate response to Tehran's downing of an unmanned U.S. surveillance drone, adding that more sanctions were imposed late Thursday.

                        "We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights [sic] when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world," Trump said in a series of early morning tweets. "Sanctions are biting & more added last night."

                        A commander in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps told a semi-official news agency Friday that the drone had been accompanied by a manned U.S. spy plane that Iranian forces decided not to target.

                        The planned U.S. attack would have involved airstrikes and was close to being carried out when it was stopped, an official told Bloomberg News, but would not discuss whether the plan might still be revived.

                        National Security Advisor John Bolton was pushing for the strike. Trump changed his mind based on some additional information on Iranian decision making, one of the officials said. Iran was not given any warning of possible retaliation


                        https://www.newsmax.com/politics/tru.../21/id/921432/

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                          Decided against it at the last minute

                          Good thing I say

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                          President Donald Trump on Friday said he blocked a planned military strike against Iran because it would not have been a proportionate response to Tehran's downing of an unmanned U.S. surveillance drone, adding that more sanctions were imposed late Thursday.

                          "We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights [sic] when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world," Trump said in a series of early morning tweets. "Sanctions are biting & more added last night."

                          A commander in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps told a semi-official news agency Friday that the drone had been accompanied by a manned U.S. spy plane that Iranian forces decided not to target.

                          The planned U.S. attack would have involved airstrikes and was close to being carried out when it was stopped, an official told Bloomberg News, but would not discuss whether the plan might still be revived.

                          National Security Advisor John Bolton was pushing for the strike. Trump changed his mind based on some additional information on Iranian decision making, one of the officials said. Iran was not given any warning of possible retaliation


                          https://www.newsmax.com/politics/tru.../21/id/921432/
                          I thought the point of pouring many billions into the military was to make the United States so mighty no one would dare mess with us, yet Russia harasses our ships on the high seas, and Iran shoots down our drones. All the military might in the world can't compensate for incompetent leadership at the top.Pulling out of the Iran deal was really a smart move right?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by redrover View Post
                            I thought the point of pouring many billions into the military was to make the United States so mighty no one would dare mess with us, yet Russia harasses our ships on the high seas, and Iran shoots down our drones. All the military might in the world can't compensate for incompetent leadership at the top.Pulling out of the Iran deal was really a smart move right?
                            Explain to me how getting us out of Mr obamas great Iran "deal" wasn't a good idea.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                              Explain to me how getting us out of Mr obamas great Iran "deal" wasn't a good idea.
                              Has there ever been an administration with a more incoherent foreign policy? Get ready boys the attack is ready to go. Wait wait, our commander in tweet just had a bowel movement and is no longer in the mood for war today. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.b478c7964693

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by redrover View Post

                                Has there ever been an administration with a more incoherent foreign policy? Get ready boys the attack is ready to go. Wait wait, our commander in tweet just had a bowel movement and is no longer in the mood for war today. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.b478c7964693
                                Instead of giving an explanation for why getting us out of Mr obamas great Iran "deal" wasn't a good idea, you only offer incoherent crapola..

                                while complaining that our new administrations foreign policy is incoherent.

                                It's worth mentioning that the president did not carry through with a military action against Iran, though it was close.

                                You're going to criticize that, knowing that you'd criticize it also if he HAD carried through with it

                                So it wouldn't have mattered what the president did, you're going to complain about it

                                Because the president is Donald Trump

                                That alone is not enough reason to complain about something that you actually know very little about

                                We know you don't like Donald Trump and none are interested in the presidents daily restroom routines LOL

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