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  • Another opportunity for anti-second amendment people to yell

    OR for the race baiters to holler something dumb

    Some ding-dong went shooting people

    Here's what we know at this time so far

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    Texas Shooting Leaves 5 Dead and At Least 21 Injured Near Odessa

    The attack began as a traffic stop, the authorities said, and the gunman is dead.

    HOUSTON Five people were killed and more than 20 others were injured in a brazen daylight drive-by mass shooting in the West Texas cities of Midland and Odessa on Saturday, as a gunman drove on the highways and streets opening fire on residents, motorists and shoppers, the authorities said.

    The attack terrified two sister cities 20 miles apart with a combined population of 263,000 at the start of Labor Day weekend, just weeks after a gunman killed 22 people at a Walmart in El Paso.

    Police officers and state troopers tried to keep drivers off the highways. A local university urged students and faculty to stay in their dorm rooms and offices. A television station in Odessa, KOSA-TV, evacuated their studio while they were covering the breaking news live on the air.

    Three law enforcement officers were shot, according to the police. Officials said the gunman, a man in his mid-30s, was dead, although they declined to identify him or describe how he died.

    The chief of the Odessa Police Department, Michael Gerke, said the motive was not known, but that the attack had begun as a traffic stop. He added that there had been reports of a second gunman but that they were not confirmed, and attributed the sightings to the chaotic situation.

    We do believe we have the threat contained, but I cant be 1,000 percent sure of that, Chief Gerke told reporters on Saturday.

    Federal officials were monitoring the attack, and agents from the F.B.I. and other agencies were deploying teams to the region.

    The mayor of Midland, Jerry Morales, said the shootings began shortly after 4 p.m. on Interstate 20 and Highway 191, which connects Midland to Odessa. As the attack was unfolding, the police in Odessa said on Facebook that a gunman was driving around shooting at random people.

    Junior Bejarano, 20, a worker at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Odessa, had just finished cleaning a table when he heard a gunshot outside at about 4:30 p.m. It was chaos in a matter of seconds, he said. People were screaming, flipping chairs, dropping plates.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/u...shootings.html

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    More details

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    Police said there are "multiple gunshot victims" in West Texas after reports of two suspects opening fire on Saturday in the area of Midland and Odessa.

    Midland police said at least one suspect was shot and killed near the Cinergy movie theater in Odessa.

    One or possibly two suspects hijacked a U.S. Postal Service vehicle and were firing at random, hitting multiple people, Odessa police said. "At this time there are multiple gunshot victims," Odessa police said in a posting on Facebook.

    The Texas Department of Public Safety has urged residents to avoid major highways in the area, including Interstate 20.

    No other details were immediately available. Odessa is about 20 miles southwest of Midland. Both are more than 300 miles west of Dallas.

    Two people were killed, at least three police officers were among the wounded, and one suspect was believed to have been taken into custody in Odessa, CBS affiliate CBS 7 reported.

    One suspect was driving a U.S. Post Office van, and the other was believed to be in a gold and white Toyota truck, Midland police said.

    The Midland, Texas, Police Department said Saturday that one of the suspects is believed to be driving a gold-colored vehicle and has a rifle. Authorities in Odessa, Texas, say the other shooter is believed to be driving a U.S. Postal Service vehicle.

    Police in Odessa, say one or possibly two suspects hijacked the postal vehicle and was firing at random, hitting multiple people.

    The University of Texas Permian Basin campus has gone into lock-down. There have been no reports of fatalities.

    The Odessa Police Department posted on its Facebook page:
    Active Shooter! Please Share!

    A subject (possibly 2) is currently driving around Odessa shooting at random people. At this time there are multiple gunshot victims. The suspect just hijacked a U.S. mail carrier truck and was last seen in the area of 38th and Walnut. Everyone is encouraged to get off the road and use extreme caution! All law enforcement is currently searching for the suspect and more information will be released as soon as it becomes available.




    Midland Police posted to its Facebook page:


    Update * We believe there are two shooters in two separate vehicles. One suspect is believed to be at the Cinergy in Midland and the other is believed to be driving on Loop 250 in Midland. The two vehicles in question are: gold/white small Toyota truck and a USPS Postal Van. Please stay away from these areas and stay indoors.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us.../31/id/930736/


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    • #3
      This is a developing story.

      We're still learning more details

      They're saying things like The shooting was "planned by a group"

      No details of what "group" or what kind of people, race, religion, whatever...

      These kinds of details will likely be more carefully handled these days I might guess ?

      'We wouldn't want to inflame the already inflamed people." - ___________________


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      Authorities previously said two shooters in two separate vehicles - a small Toyota truck and a hijacked Postal van - were carrying out the attack.

      However, Midland Police have now confirmed that one shooter was shot and killed at a Cinergy cinema in Odessa.


      They said: "There is no active shooter at this time. All agencies are investigating reports of possible suspects."

      Midland mayor Jerry Morales said the attack started shortly after 4pm local time on Interstate 20 and Highway 191, which connects Midland to Odessa.

      According to Fox4, five people have been confirmed dead and more than 20 are injured including "multiple" police officers.

      A Texas state trooper is among those who have been shot although his condition is unknown, CBS News reports.

      The shooting was "planned by a group", police sources told News West 9.

      On Facebook, Odessa Police wrote: "A subject (possibly 2) is currently driving around Odessa shooting at random people.

      "At this time there are multiple gunshot victims. The suspect just hijacked a US Mail carrier truck.

      US President Donald Trump tweeted: "Just briefed by Attorney General Barr about the shootings in Texas. FBI and Law Enforcement is fully engaged. More to follow.

      The shooting comes less than a month after a gunman shot dead 22 people in El Paso, Texas.


      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/983837...ire-in-odessa/

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        More information & videos below at link

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        The suspect is reported to be a white male in his mid-thirties. Once this person was taken out of the picture there have been no further victims, the chief said. The chief explained they initially thought there were multiple shooters because of the multiple vehicles involved and the multiple shooting scenes.

        One Midland police officer, one Odessa police officer, and one DPS trooper were shot.

        The chief did not say what type of firearm was used in the shooting.

        Hospital officials corrected their earlier statement and said they treated 13 people, not 14. Two people were treated and released, seven are in critical condition but have already made it through surgery, two are in serious condition, one person died, and one pediatric patient was transferred to a Lubbock hospital.
        ....



        https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...oter-incident/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
          More details

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          Police said there are "multiple gunshot victims" in West Texas after reports of two suspects opening fire on Saturday in the area of Midland and Odessa.

          Midland police said at least one suspect was shot and killed near the Cinergy movie theater in Odessa.

          One or possibly two suspects hijacked a U.S. Postal Service vehicle and were firing at random, hitting multiple people, Odessa police said. "At this time there are multiple gunshot victims," Odessa police said in a posting on Facebook.

          The Texas Department of Public Safety has urged residents to avoid major highways in the area, including Interstate 20.

          No other details were immediately available. Odessa is about 20 miles southwest of Midland. Both are more than 300 miles west of Dallas.

          Two people were killed, at least three police officers were among the wounded, and one suspect was believed to have been taken into custody in Odessa, CBS affiliate CBS 7 reported.

          One suspect was driving a U.S. Post Office van, and the other was believed to be in a gold and white Toyota truck, Midland police said.

          The Midland, Texas, Police Department said Saturday that one of the suspects is believed to be driving a gold-colored vehicle and has a rifle. Authorities in Odessa, Texas, say the other shooter is believed to be driving a U.S. Postal Service vehicle.

          Police in Odessa, say one or possibly two suspects hijacked the postal vehicle and was firing at random, hitting multiple people.

          The University of Texas Permian Basin campus has gone into lock-down. There have been no reports of fatalities.

          The Odessa Police Department posted on its Facebook page:
          Active Shooter! Please Share!

          A subject (possibly 2) is currently driving around Odessa shooting at random people. At this time there are multiple gunshot victims. The suspect just hijacked a U.S. mail carrier truck and was last seen in the area of 38th and Walnut. Everyone is encouraged to get off the road and use extreme caution! All law enforcement is currently searching for the suspect and more information will be released as soon as it becomes available.




          Midland Police posted to its Facebook page:


          Update * We believe there are two shooters in two separate vehicles. One suspect is believed to be at the Cinergy in Midland and the other is believed to be driving on Loop 250 in Midland. The two vehicles in question are: gold/white small Toyota truck and a USPS Postal Van. Please stay away from these areas and stay indoors.

          https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us.../31/id/930736/

          Some of us think that now is the time for thoughts and prayers while others believe now is the time to vote all the politicians who are bought and paid for by the NRA. Are you listening president Trump? Maybe Trump should start talking up shooting sick immigrant children in hospitals and save us the cost of deporting them.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by redrover View Post
            Some of us think that now is the time for thoughts and prayers while others believe now is the time to vote all the politicians who are bought and paid for by the NRA. Are you listening president Trump? Maybe Trump should start talking up shooting sick immigrant children in hospitals and save us the cost of deporting them.
            Great stuff ! Great stuff LOL

            Trump did this, Trump did that Trump is evil blah blah blah

            Here's some fun stuff for you to enjoy . ...

            Why don't we murder more white people ???

            This is main stream rhetoric, even entertainment in 2019 ?

            Yes, it is.

            "Why isn't violence against white people being normalized ?" - is asked

            Some people are clearly out there trying to make America go to WAR - WITH ITSELF !!

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            A bizarre and nakedly hateful film has aired at a public San Francisco museum over the past month.

            The eleven-minute film, which has been removed from YouTube by its creator, contained profiles of several individuals speaking about their dislike for White Americans and their perceived grievances against them.

            A description of the film described it as an examination of whiteness, its unassailable immortality, and how it permeates our daily lives. The projects description seems to ask why violence against white people isnt being normalized.



            https://www.wnd.com/2019/08/film-don...-white-people/




            In the meantime, another part of America busies itself with ...

            Demonizing the president


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            Since Trump, by his very nature, is incapable of good, everything he does is inherently bad, such as raising tariffs to protect American workers.

            The fact that many left-wing politicians have advocated the same policy means nothing because Satan can only do bad.

            Since Trump is incapable of good, he cannot be responsible for the economic gains.

            They must be attributed to Obama, the archetype of good.

            A Vox headline reads, "The Truth about the Trump economy: A massive change in perceptions masks continuity with the Obama years."

            Sure, the black American unemployment rate is declining, but all good in the world comes from messiah Obama.


            ...

            https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ald_trump.html







            Getting back to the subject .....https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forum/current-events/breaking-news/565982-another-opportunity-for-anti-second-amendment-people-to-yell?p=565990#post565990

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            • #7
              Aren't 'brazen daylight drive-by mass shooting' the typical Modus Operandi of criminal gangs?

              I'l wait 24 to 72 hours for more facts to develop before forming an opinion based on those facts. Seems that some don't bother with finding out, or waiting for, the facts first. :shrug:

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              • #8
                Odd in how most of these shootings start out with more than one shooter and then it ends up being one and usually dead .


                Why are we having non stop mass shootings when historically we just seldom have this evil?

                It might be worth digging into it deeply. Are particular unstable people being used as a reason to neutralize a stated right?

                Sounds like tin foil hattery. But so does the fact our cia raised off the books funds by trafficking coke . They raise dark money in several ways. Illegal and mafia like. What wont we do is the question .

                But it doesn't get worse than Schumer informing trump that if the cia wants to it can get a president 6 ways from Sunday . This was a warning. This should have scared the shit out of all amerAmericans and the press should have reacted strongly and yet nothing happened.

                In this kind of reality anything is possible.
                Last edited by Blue Doggy; 2 weeks ago.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                  Odd in how most of these shootings start out with more than one shooter and then it ends up being one and usually dead .


                  Why are we having non stop mass shootings when historically we just seldom have this evil?

                  It might be worth digging into it deeply. Are particular unstable people being used as a reason to neutralize a stated right?

                  Sounds like tin foil hattery. But so does the fact our cia raised off the books funds by trafficking coke . They raise dark money in several ways. Illegal and mafia like. What wont we do is the question .

                  But it doesn't get worse than Schumer informing trump that if the cia wants to it can get a president 6 ways from Sunday . This was a warning. This should have scared the shit out of all amerAmericans and the press should have reacted strongly and yet nothing happened.

                  In this kind of reality anything is possible.
                  How about the argument that it takes a good man with a gun to stop a bad man with a gun argument? It should be noted in this spree the first person shot was a good guy with a gun. I love the argument that it's a mental health issue, not a gun issue. The fact is other countries have just as many mental health problems, but don't have a mass shooting every few days. Here in the land of the free we don't have the freedom to go to a Wal-mart or our churches without being shot at. We don't have a gun problem, we have a Republican problem, a party owned by the gun lobby. Here is an interesting article that looks at gun violence world wide. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/08/05/743579605/how-the-u-s-compares-to-other-countries-in-deaths-from-gun-violence

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    How about the argument that it takes a good man with a gun to stop a bad man with a gun argument? It should be noted in this spree the first person shot was a good guy with a gun. I love the argument that it's a mental health issue, not a gun issue. The fact is other countries have just as many mental health problems, but don't have a mass shooting every few days. Here in the land of the free we don't have the freedom to go to a Wal-mart or our churches without being shot at. We don't have a gun problem, we have a Republican problem, a party owned by the gun lobby. Here is an interesting article that looks at gun violence world wide. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/08/05/743579605/how-the-u-s-compares-to-other-countries-in-deaths-from-gun-violence
                    Funny that you want to make this about "Republicans" LOL

                    Silly Rover, these people probably aren't aware of where they even are right now.

                    Sadly that's 100% more aware than dummyrats are.

                    No matter.

                    This isn't a political party problem.

                    It's a cultural problem.

                    Americans have had what's called a second amendment right to keep and bear firearms, for as long as America has existed.

                    You will get nowhere making silly statements about this matter being an NRA issue or a "republican" issue. This is an American issue. It's a Constitutional issue.

                    You're going nowhere if you want to take Americans firearms away from them.

                    Forget it. It's never going to happen. There are better solutions.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post
                      How about the argument that it takes a good man with a gun to stop a bad man with a gun argument?
                      That's actually a factual statement.

                      It should be noted in this spree the first person shot was a good guy with a gun. I love the argument that it's a mental health issue, not a gun issue. The fact is other countries have just as many mental health problems, but don't have a mass shooting every few days.
                      Seems the fact is that the US doesn't lead the world in mass shootings after all.

                      Here in the land of the free we don't have the freedom to go to a Wal-mart or our churches without being shot at. We don't have a gun problem, we have a Republican problem, a party owned by the gun lobby. Here is an interesting article that looks at gun violence world wide. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/08/05/743579605/how-the-u-s-compares-to-other-countries-in-deaths-from-gun-violence
                      The argument that the NRA has 'bought' GOP legislators is bogus.

                      Contributions to candidates: $716,604
                      Contributions to Leadership PACs: $43,750
                      Contributions to parties: $120,167
                      Contributions to 527 committees: $0
                      Contributions to outside spending groups: $0
                      https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/sum...?id=d000000082
                      Especially when compared to public sector unions, of which you could argue has bought Democrat legislators.
                      2020 26 $5,938,662 $95,512 $3,135,050 $2,708,100 $2,693,462 $490,100 85% 15%
                      2018 21 $55,974,887 $537,383 $18,432,090 $37,005,414 $16,489,770 $2,413,317 87% 13%
                      2016 23 $65,579,643 $2,566,555 $15,110,253 $47,902,835 $15,910,125 $1,819,198 90% 10%
                      2014 11 $54,052,920 $197,826 $15,838,850 $38,016,244 $14,758,128 $1,254,267 92% 8%
                      https://www.opensecrets.org/industri...ls.php?ind=P04
                      Oh so ill-informed. I'm starting to actually feel sorry for you.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                        That's actually a factual statement.





                        Seems the fact is that the US doesn't lead the world in mass shootings after all.



                        The argument that the NRA has 'bought' GOP legislators is bogus.



                        Especially when compared to public sector unions, of which you could argue has bought Democrat legislators.


                        Oh so ill-informed. I'm starting to actually feel sorry for you.
                        There were 53 people killed in mass shootings in the US during the month of August. Moscow Mitch will look at addressing the problem by outlawing pinball machines. The house has passed a bunch of gun control bills. Moscow should bring them to the senate vote. Then all those NRA Republicans can on record as being for gun rights at the expense of human lives. Put it up for a vote. It's a sure winner for Republicans. All those Democrats who vote for gun control will be targeted by the monolithic NRA and will lose their seat. LOL

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by redrover View Post
                          How about the argument that it takes a good man with a gun to stop a bad man with a gun argument? It should be noted in this spree the first person shot was a good guy with a gun. I love the argument that it's a mental health issue, not a gun issue. The fact is other countries have just as many mental health problems, but don't have a mass shooting every few days. Here in the land of the free we don't have the freedom to go to a Wal-mart or our churches without being shot at. We don't have a gun problem, we have a Republican problem, a party owned by the gun lobby. Here is an interesting article that looks at gun violence world wide. [Uwithhttps://www.npr.org/ invasion sections/goatsandsoda/2019/08/05/743579605/hveryow-the-u-s-compares-to-other-countries-in-deaths-from-gun-violence[/U]
                          Everytime a person with a gun stops a home invasion I thank mr colt.For making this old sick man equal.I love that fact.

                          Only a dem would give us a nation where only crooks have guns. The party of low iq.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by redrover View Post

                            There were 53 people killed in mass shootings in the US during the month of August. Moscow Mitch will look at addressing the problem by outlawing pinball machines. The house has passed a bunch of gun control bills. Moscow should bring them to the senate vote. Then all those NRA Republicans can on record as being for gun rights at the expense of human lives. Put it up for a vote. It's a sure winner for Republicans. All those Democrats who vote for gun control will be targeted by the monolithic NRA and will lose their seat. LOL
                            I'm hearing the parroting of leftist talking points from MSNBC again.

                            Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results from so called 'gun control' legislation is the very definition of insanity.

                            How about making any crime committed with a gun a felony with minimums? Get the people who are using guns for crimes, including homicides, off the street?

                            I object to further restrictions on law biding firearms enthusiasts exercising their 2nd amendment rights, especially so when it doesn't address the problem. These people aren't the problem. Criminals who use guns, black market guns, are the problem.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                              I'm hearing the parroting of leftist talking points from MSNBC again.

                              Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results from so called 'gun control' legislation is the very definition of insanity.

                              How about making any crime committed with a gun a felony with minimums? Get the people who are using guns for crimes, including homicides, off the street?

                              I object to further restrictions on law biding firearms enthusiasts exercising their 2nd amendment rights, especially so when it doesn't address the problem. These people aren't the problem. Criminals who use guns, black market guns, are the problem.
                              The other half of the problem being the people who lie and misrepresent the matter.

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