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  • Differences Between Republicans and Democrats

    It has been my contention for quite some time that Republicans who shame their office resign in shame and Democrats continue on and are even revered for their indiscretions. Here is good example:

    Charlie Rangel:

    Congressman Charles Rangel has served continuously in the House of Representatives since 1971. He has been a member of the House Committee on Ways and Means for over 30 years. In January 2007 he ascended to the chair of the House Committee on Ways and Means.In August of 2008, the New York Post, acting on a tip from one of the Congressmans political enemies, reported on its investigation of the Congressmans ownership of Caribbean rental property. The report noted the Congressmans ownership of a beach villa in the Dominican Republic and his failure to report rental income on the property.
    http://www.bunilaw.com/blog/tax-comm...-tax-problems/

    Michael Grimm:

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    https://twitter.com/BKcolin/status/5...388864/photo/1






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    Yes, I too have noticed that the conservatives, who like to wear their religion on their sleeves are much less forgiving than the Christian democrats. It's hard for the republicans to give anyone a second chance, and those men who step down know all too well the mentality of their constituents.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
      Yes, I too have noticed that the conservatives, who like to wear their religion on their sleeves are much less forgiving than the Christian democrats. It's hard for the republicans to give anyone a second chance, and those men who step down know all too well the mentality of their constituents.
      Because I want a guy who cheats on his taxes to be part of the federal government when doing so would get me arrested. Because I'm forgiving and Christian, which somehow makes me an idiot? No sale dude. Being forgiving/Christian does not equate to putting a fox BACK in the henhouse because he swears on his honor he won't eat those chickens anymore.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
        Yes, I too have noticed that the conservatives, who like to wear their religion on their sleeves are much less forgiving than the Christian democrats. It's hard for the republicans to give anyone a second chance, and those men who step down know all too well the mentality of their constituents.

        There is a difference between forgiving a repentant sinner and celebrating their misdeeds. Look at Clinton, Kennedy, Rangel, I could go on. None of these ever asked for forgiveness, they just wore their indiscretions on their sleeves and their voters admired them for it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
          Yes, I too have noticed that the conservatives, who like to wear their religion on their sleeves are much less forgiving than the Christian democrats. It's hard for the republicans to give anyone a second chance, and those men who step down know all too well the mentality of their constituents.
          Forgiving someone has nothing to do with letting them keep their office when they violated it. You're conflating two separate things.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post


            There is a difference between forgiving a repentant sinner and celebrating their misdeeds. Look at Clinton, Kennedy, Rangel, I could go on. None of these ever asked for forgiveness, they just wore their indiscretions on their sleeves and their voters admired them for it.
            Well, I wish that one party could be an example of a moral highground, but I just don't see it.

            Popular politics today is so concentrated on personality assassinations. I listen to conservative talk radio at night, as it is all that we can get here in the south. Never heard a liberal talk radio program, and there are probably so few of them. Last night I moved from one talk radio program to another, which is religious based, and the character assassinations continued on Obama, in what a selfish person he was, totally unfit, and so on and so forth. And this from a religious driven radio station!! But this sort of content obviously brings in the advertising bucks, and apparently there are not enough liberals who listen to talk radio to get their beliefs reinforced. So does this mean that conservative voters love the dirty, the trash the tabloid nature of political/religious talk radio? I dunno.

            It is important, when it comes to politics, the decisions made that affect the people in this nation. But is it important to constantly attack the personality of people in gov't? And these attacks serve no one certainly not human decency. And so my impressions of conservatives is never helped by what comes forth from their mouths. It seems to be such a low road to take. I just wish we had liberal talk radio so I could get the same impression of the liberals, but perhaps this trash talk doesn't sell as well to liberals? And there is simply no market for that sort of programming? If this is true, that might make a statement about conservative people. One might even get the idea that pure nastiness is more prevalent on the right side than the left. Are there any conservative talk shows that do not indulge in this nastiness, this coarseness of culture? I remember only one, who we no longer get, a republican with the last name of Bennett, who served under a republican president years ago, who took the high road. But he was an anomaly even back then, around 8 years ago or so. Perhaps he, refusing to indulge in the nastiness, didn't get the viewership, and lost his own radio program. Think it was Bill Bennett. What does that say, if it happened about these conservative you respect so much, oldman? Are these the people who we need to look up to? Who we need to use against liberals, as someone being more moral, more decent people?

            What is sorta funny but not really, is that on these CTR programs, if a liberal calls in to dispute the character assassinations, the outcome is predictable. The liberal gets a few words out, only to be cut off, which is then followed by a highly emotional, screaming rant by the host, involving even more attacks on character. I am sure the listeners really eat this up, and think "by god we told him didn't we?" But not letting the other side speak is common on CTR. As is the emotional rants, the vulgarity that defines these programs, and the lack of decency. And these are the people who are supposed to be some sort of moral highground? I just cannot accept it.
            Last edited by Blue Doggy; 12-30-2014, 09:56 AM.

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            • #7
              This thread has nothing to do with character assassination or talk radio. Just facts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                This thread has nothing to do with character assassination or talk radio. Just facts.

                What facts are those as all I see is opinion.

                You're asserting that Liberals don't punish wrongdoers and conservatives do which is pure opinion and just because you can cite a few examples doesn't make it any less of an opinion.

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                • #9
                  I always thought the main difference is that Democrats try to help people and advance the country while Republicans like to deny free health insurance to millions of poor people just for fun!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post


                    What facts are those as all I see is opinion.

                    You're asserting that Liberals don't punish wrongdoers and conservatives do which is pure opinion and just because you can cite a few examples doesn't make it any less of an opinion.
                    What isn't an opinion on this forum? That argument doesn't hold water.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                      It has been my contention for quite some time that Republicans who shame their office resign in shame and Democrats continue on and are even revered for their indiscretions. Here is good example:

                      Charlie Rangel:



                      http://www.bunilaw.com/blog/tax-comm...-tax-problems/

                      Michael Grimm:

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                      https://twitter.com/BKcolin/status/5...388864/photo/1




                      The way I see it is Grimm resigned because he put the country and his office before his personal advancement opposed to most dems. that are more concerned with how the office and country can assist them personally with their own desires.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Danny View Post
                        I always thought the main difference is that Democrats try to help people and advance the country while Republicans like to deny free health insurance to millions of poor people just for fun!

                        Taking from one and giving to another is neither advancing the country or helping people. All it does is create a dependent class and run up a debt that cannot be paid. Nothing is free. What the government gives to one it has to take from another.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post


                          What facts are those as all I see is opinion.

                          You're asserting that Liberals don't punish wrongdoers and conservatives do which is pure opinion and just because you can cite a few examples doesn't make it any less of an opinion.

                          Even a few examples makes something a fact. If you disagree, give me a few examples that disprove my point.

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                          • #14
                            I see this tactic time and time again where you try and claim that liberals are selfish bastards with a few examples and than ask that anyone who disagrees prove otherwise when what you're asking is for me to prove a negative.

                            I could just easily ask you to prove that republicans aren't selfish bastards by showing a few examples "I like firing people" being a prime example so how about you prove that all republicans aren't bastards and I may do the same.

                            A few examples of people doing something doesn't mar entire sides of the political divide but by all means carry on being amazingly partisan and one note as I've been here a few years now and all I hear from you is Liberals = Bad and Conservatives = Good.
                            Please prove me wrong though.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                              This thread has nothing to do with character assassination or talk radio. Just facts.
                              But that is the fact, for it shows the conservatives as what they are from top to bottom. I know you were trying to show the repubs were the moral highground here which is an absurd belief.

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