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    Hillary Clinton has launched an attack on Trump for his dangerous stances on foreign policy and claims she has the foreign policy experience the nation needs. Odd she considers the goings on in Libya, Egypt, and Syria as great foreign policy success stories...

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0YO09V

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    I think it is significant that none of her supporters can name even one accomplishment for her.

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      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
      I think it is significant that none of her supporters can name even one accomplishment for her.
      Well she served as a US senator for NY state and served as Secretary of State. I know that doesn't measure up to a guy who created a fraudulent university and went to a military prep school.

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        Originally posted by redrover View Post
        Well she served as a US senator for NY state and served as Secretary of State. I know that doesn't measure up to a guy who created a fraudulent university and went to a military prep school.
        And she was a failure in both positions.

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          [QUOTE=OldmanDan;n52

          And she was a failure in both positions.[/QUOTE] Right and your standard is Condi Rice and her mushroom clouds. I've voted for Hillary in every election she has ever run except for the 2008 primary. She's my candidate for the next eight years.

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            Did I miss Condi unilaterally firing off a bunch of nukes? That seems like something I would have remembered.

            I don't remember her getting embassy staff killed either.

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              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
              I think it is significant that none of her supporters can name even one accomplishment for her.
              Well she is a very accomplished supporter for wall street, and they give her millions for her campaigns and pay her thousands of dollars per minute for her speeches to them, which she will not reveal to the voters what she said. She is a very accomplished supporter of the largest free trade agreement ever, the gold standard she said, and she is very accomplished in keeping her emails about this TPP secret until after the election. Generally takes 111 days to get that info via the freedom of information act, and while it was supposed to be released in april of this year, it has now been postponed till after the election in Nov, the 31st. And it will have taken over 400 days to get that info released. Of course her secrets that show she is lying about TPP as she lies about many things, would not affect what her supporters think about her. For afterall, obviously their means test starts and stops in the fact she is a female, who will be the first female president. That is all that matters. Unless of course, her supporters, democrats, are all happy about her being owned by the big boys, who pay her very well for that ownership.

              So she has many accomplishments, but not a single one in the interest of her voters, well, unless you are a bankster or CEO of a MNC. Of course, all it takes is evidence to the contrary to prove this wrong. And like you say, her supporters are long on the superficial, and short on the meaningful. Clearly they do not know anything about how she has performed as a public servant. Or pay attention to her total lack of judgment. That she is female is all they need to know. But this kind of voter is how we lost the republic and got the oligarchy. And this is the kind of liberal that allowed FDR progressivism that looked out for working folks and the middle class to be tossed in the trash. This is all documented by facts, bill being courted by the head of the old DLC, who said if he did as he was advised, and gave the bankers and big corporations what they wanted, in exchange for campaign financing, he would be the next president. Yes, all documented in a book that the Clinton supporters will not even look at. And, I would imagine, they are quite proud of living by the maxim, that ignorance is so blissful.

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                From an AP story....

                WASHINGTON (AP) — The names of CIA personnel could have been compromised not only by hackers who may have penetrated Hillary Clinton's private computer server or the State Department system, but also by the release itself of tens of thousands of her emails, security experts say.

                Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, turned over to the State Department 55,000 emails from her private server that were sent or received when she was secretary of state. Some contained information that has since been deemed classified, and those were redacted for public release with notations for the reason of the censorship.

                At least 47 of the emails contain the notation "B3 CIA PERS/ORG," which indicates the material referred to CIA personnel or matters related to the agency. And because both Clinton's server and the State Department systems were vulnerable to hacking, the perpetrators could have those original emails, and now the publicly released, redacted versions showing exactly which sections refer to CIA personnel.




                "Start with the entirely plausible view that foreign intelligence services discovered and rifled Hillary Clinton's server," said Stewart Baker, a Washington lawyer who spent more than three years as an assistant secretary of the Homeland Security Department and is former legal counsel for the National Security Agency
                And there is this...

                Clinton has acknowledged that the email server, set up in the basement of her New York home, was a mistake. But she says she never sent or received anything that was marked classified at the time of transmission. Clinton, who was secretary of state from 2009 to 2013, insists the personal server she used was never actually breached

                More at, http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1a737...ised-cia-names

                On that last quote, the fact that many emails are not marked as classified at the time they are sent is meaningless and no defense. For it has also been reported that when Clinton took office, she had to be briefed, as well as others in the state dept. about cyber security, and that emails sent to her would be classified later on, and that she should treat all official gov't emails as if they were classified, and therefore had the responsibility to treat them as such. Which of course, as we now know, she did not, and never had an intention of doing so in order that she could hide information from the GOP, and the public, in her paranoia, and the tendency to think she is above rules, law, policy. She deleted 10s of thousands of emails, before she gave access when demanded to do so later on. Some of those were retrieved, but a huge amount were not. We are to take her word for it, that these were personal emails, like saying hello to friends and family. And of course, we all know how honest and trustworthy she is, so we of course should believe what she tells us.

                And of course, if anyone questions her on her total lack of judgment, which has been common in her time of public service, her supporters will dismiss it as some right wing conspiracy theory. And IMO, this is in part the fault of the right wingers actually incessantly going after her on trumped up matters, for purely political and personal reasons, which poisoned the well. And you get a scenario now, akin to the boy who cried wolf too many times and there was no wolf present at all. If the right wing attacks had been on substantial and credible issues over the years, instead of just making it personal or political, what Clinton has done in important areas, like this email scandal would stick much more than it does now, at least with non supporters, or people on the line of voting for her or not voting for her in the general. So, a case where the right wing has shot themselves in the foot, as well as other americans in the foot. But when you hate someone as many of them do, in regards to Clinton, your emotions over ride your rationality and reason. And no doubt, this has affected the right wing like a disease and makes it more difficult to keep her corrupt arse out of the oval office.

                So should we even trust what the FBI says, once they wind up this investigation, or investigations, since there are two of them? One on the emails, and the other on the Clinton foundation and if contributions to it were done in return for favors, that Clinton gave for the cash. Might be very hard to prove that though, as both Clintons are lawyers, and know how to cover their arses.


                Perhaps the FBI is the only one we can trust, given that its director is not a democrat, and might no succumb from political pressure to go lightly in this investigation. But the FBI cannot prosecute, only present the facts, and then its the Obama justice dept that would move on it. But can the AG even be trusted to do the right thing? Some would say no, that justice takes a second place to the dems covering the arse of Clinton, their nominee before one vote was cast. And of course this would be overt corruption of the democratic party. And even this would make not one bit of difference with her supporters. It would only matter to those that will not accept corruption on either side. But this is not specific to only the democrats for many GOPhers would do the same if it were someone they supported. And until this changes, we will only enable and abet corruption and law breaking by our ruling elites who no longer are subject to the same laws the common rabble is. Smells like oligarchy to me. There is so many signs, and so much hard evidence per the Princeton Study which MSM of course failed to cover and ignored, that we lost the republic, and got an oligarchy. It isn't so much that the MSM is liberal or conservative, but its the propaganda arms of the existing oligarchy, or corporate controlled State. The great power of information has been concentrated into the hands of 5 or 6 really big corporations thanks to neoliberal deregulation of the media which allowed so few to control information. But again, this is how an oligarchy does it.
                Last edited by Blue Doggy; 06-09-2016, 07:23 AM.

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