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  • #46
    Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post

    You know how "The Art of the Deal" works, right?

    According to Trump, you get the other party to not just agree, but to perform their half of the bargain FIRST. Only then do you come through on your end, and only if it still works for you. The dems are simply taking a page form Trump's best seller playbook. And, since we all agree that "The other side" can't be trusted to uphold their end of the bargain, your proposed 'companion bills' will not work, either. It all has to be in one bill, otherwise Trump signs the security bills and vetoes the DACA bill. I certainly hope the dems understand this.
    You are basing your comments on what Democrats would do and have done, not what Trump has done. Just because Democrats will renege on a deal doesn't mean Trump will. Not everyone places as little value to their word as Democrats do.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

      You are basing your comments on what Democrats would do and have done, not what Trump has done. Just because Democrats will renege on a deal doesn't mean Trump will. Not everyone places as little value to their word as Democrats do.
      Then tell me why Trump hasn't released his tax returns? He wanted your vote, so he said he would. You voted for him, he got elected, now where is the return? Oh yeah ... Trump is shoving it right up your azz and you can't even see it. Ask any number of subcontractors who never got paid by Trump. Hell, ask the lawyers who defended Trump against them. Ask the students at "Trump University." It's The Art of the Deal.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post

        Then tell me why Trump hasn't released his tax returns? He wanted your vote, so he said he would. You voted for him, he got elected, now where is the return? Oh yeah ... Trump is shoving it right up your azz and you can't even see it. Ask any number of subcontractors who never got paid by Trump. Hell, ask the lawyers who defended Trump against them. Ask the students at "Trump University." It's The Art of the Deal.
        I never wanted, asked for, or cared about his tax returns. What a person pays in taxes has nothing to do with his ability to lead a country. That is nothing but a talking point that Democrats love to use to vilify someone they don't like. How is it any of your business what he paid in taxes? Where were you when people were demanding that Obama release his education records? Previous candidates had done that.

        As far as sub contractors not being paid, neither you nor I know any of the specifics behind those allegations. Maybe they never performed, maybe they didn't finish the job, maybe they underbid the job and wanted more money to finish it. These are just attacks by partisans who have an agenda and don't mind lying to accomplish it. As far as Trump university, an out of court settlement was reached that was cheaper than it would have been to pursue the case. That happens all the time with rich companies who are fleeced by disgruntled employees or, in this case, students. How many American Universities could be sued for breach of contract by not adequately training their students in professions that will make them an income? How many college graduates today are flipping burgers because that is all they are qualified to do?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

          I never wanted, asked for, or cared about his tax returns. What a person pays in taxes has nothing to do with his ability to lead a country. That is nothing but a talking point that Democrats love to use to vilify someone they don't like. How is it any of your business what he paid in taxes? Where were you when people were demanding that Obama release his education records? Previous candidates had done that.

          As far as sub contractors not being paid, neither you nor I know any of the specifics behind those allegations. Maybe they never performed, maybe they didn't finish the job, maybe they underbid the job and wanted more money to finish it. These are just attacks by partisans who have an agenda and don't mind lying to accomplish it. As far as Trump university, an out of court settlement was reached that was cheaper than it would have been to pursue the case. That happens all the time with rich companies who are fleeced by disgruntled employees or, in this case, students. How many American Universities could be sued for breach of contract by not adequately training their students in professions that will make them an income? How many college graduates today are flipping burgers because that is all they are qualified to do?
          You personally never cared about his tax returns, therefore the fact that HE LIED about releasing them doesn't matter to you. As long as his lies don't matter to you, it is A-OK with you. Trump can lie all day long, as long as those lies are not important to you personally. The fact is, he has not released them BECAUSE it is better for him that you do not see those returns.

          B-bu-but Obama!

          Did Obama promise to release his transcripts and then renege? No, he did not. Harvard claims Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude. That's Latin for "He's fxcking smarter than you!"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post

            You personally never cared about his tax returns, therefore the fact that HE LIED about releasing them doesn't matter to you. As long as his lies don't matter to you, it is A-OK with you. Trump can lie all day long, as long as those lies are not important to you personally. The fact is, he has not released them BECAUSE it is better for him that you do not see those returns.

            B-bu-but Obama!

            Did Obama promise to release his transcripts and then renege? No, he did not. Harvard claims Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude. That's Latin for "He's fxcking smarter than you!"
            I don't care why he hasn't yet released them or if he ever does. Do you know that the audit is complete? Sometimes these audits take years. You just want them released because you hope there is some "gotcha" In them. All of you folks are just hoping against hope for some reason to discredit him but it won't work anyway because the hate and false vilification that has been waged against him has made him stronger. What do you expect to gain by seeing his taxes? Obviously they are legally filed and accounted for or the IRS would be all over him. You just hope to dig some dirt. That's all the left has anymore is dirt and scandal. The Democrats have no plan for the future of their own party, much less a plan for the country.

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            • #51
              "Sometimes these audits take years."

              Old man, you're so full of it. IRS audits do not take years. IRS audits are just about the most straight forward processes there are. The business provides the documentation requested for up to 3 years past, explanations are provided if needed, assessments are either levied or not. Done and done.

              Unless, ... The IRS asserts criminal evasion, then they can go back 7 years. You don't suppose ... nah.

              Go ahead. Keep making excuses for the liar.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post
                "Sometimes these audits take years."

                Old man, you're so full of it. IRS audits do not take years. IRS audits are just about the most straight forward processes there are. The business provides the documentation requested for up to 3 years past, explanations are provided if needed, assessments are either levied or not. Done and done.

                Unless, ... The IRS asserts criminal evasion, then they can go back 7 years. You don't suppose ... nah.

                Go ahead. Keep making excuses for the liar.
                I don't need to make excuses, I'm right happy with his performance in office. Taxes are going down, economy is booming, stock market at record levels, employees are getting raises and bonuses, manufacturing in the U.S. is booming. No more immigrants imported to increase Democrat votes, Obamacare all but gone, what more could I ask?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                  I don't need to make excuses, I'm right happy with his performance in office. Taxes are going down, economy is booming, stock market at record levels, employees are getting raises and bonuses, manufacturing in the U.S. is booming. No more immigrants imported to increase Democrat votes, Obamacare all but gone, what more could I ask?

                  To show us how nutty and absurd this trump hatred and partisanship is, these trump haters would rather see america worse off, her people being worse off, which would give them another reason to get worked up about trump, than to see the american people in better shape and trump succeed in improving their economic situation. This is a real bad dysfunction driven by the emotions of the dems. Something is really badly wrong with this, a kinda rot. It just looks so crazy in a rather sick manner to me. But then again the dems stopped representing those people who would benefit from what trump is trying to do, and so it makes sense they could not give a hoot about these people and their economic situations.

                  It that that when the Dems think about working americans, they also think WHITE working americans, the racists, the neonazi nationalists. Yet we have plenty of hispanic and black working people along with other minority working people. When the dems stopped representing working people, it was all working people. Not just whites.

                  That trump promised and won on helping out the economic situation of working people, which the DP no longer does, nor the establishment GOP, means that trump won on an issue which the pre clinton DP would have run on and won, in these times of want and woe created by open borders slave labor globalism.

                  The great irony is that trump on these economic issues ran as a FDR Dem would have run at one time before the DP sold out, and he won by his campaign stance on these issues. And do the modern democrats even notice this? It does not appear to be so. They seem to have come to far in their change to where they represent special interests and rich elites, and the MNCs and banks owned by them. And the DP becoming disconnected from the average american who works for a living, while not having any kind of grand plan for the american people relegates this party to being nothing but a party of NO Trump. If this is acceptable to their voters, god help us and the DP.

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                  • #54
                    Working people are a nemesis for Democrat politicians. They don't need the Government making all their decisions in exchange for their vote.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                      Working people are a nemesis for Democrat politicians. They don't need the Government making all their decisions in exchange for their vote.
                      Is that the view from fantasyland? This is the kind of stuff I've been seeing for weekshttp://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/house-republicans-2018-generic-ballot/index.html . Of course you've got Trump winning hearts and minds everyday I see his approval rating is all the way up to37%

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by redrover View Post
                        Is that the view from fantasyland?
                        Yes, the one everyone else calls reality.

                        Originally posted by redrover View Post
                        This is the kind of stuff I've been seeing for weeks http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politi...lot/index.html .
                        CNN out there trying to convince and scare us, nothing new. We'll see if their predictions were correct soon.

                        Originally posted by redrover View Post
                        Of course you've got Trump winning hearts and minds everyday I see his approval rating is all the way up to 37%
                        I heard the polls said he was at 2 or 3 % "approval" rating.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by redrover View Post

                          Is that the view from fantasyland? This is the kind of stuff I've been seeing for weekshttp://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/house-republicans-2018-generic-ballot/index.html . Of course you've got Trump winning hearts and minds everyday I see his approval rating is all the way up to37%
                          The only daily poll now has him at 46% approval rating:

                          http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_jan12

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                            The only daily poll now has him at 46% approval rating:

                            http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_jan12
                            Those polls sure do move around don't they ?

                            Of course it has nothing to do with who was polled, when they were polled, how they were polled and the precise wording of those polls.

                            These "polls," they're really not about manipulating public opinion... really, they're not !!! I learned this from a trusted source !

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                              Those polls sure do move around don't they ?

                              Of course it has nothing to do with who was polled, when they were polled, how they were polled and the precise wording of those polls.

                              These "polls," they're really not about manipulating public opinion... really, they're not !!! I learned this from a trusted source !
                              As I have repeatedly said, polls are meant to influence opinion, not reflect it.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                                As I have repeatedly said, polls are meant to influence opinion, not reflect it.
                                Unfortunately true.

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