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  • #16
    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

    They're all messed up if you ask me.
    Whatever you do, don't refute the evidence or provide any to support your comment.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by redrover View Post

      Electing Trump was such a good idea like getting a dose of malaria to cure the common cold. How long are you willing to play nuclear Russian roulette with this fool?

      For me personally, I am not concerned about trump at all. I am only concerned about the important issues, and this obsession with trump serves only as a misdirection away from what the real problem is. Oligarchy. The loss of our republic. The fact that no one's interests matter to DC except the ruling elites and special interests. This is a problem which makes any problems with trump seem so superficial and utterly meaningless. We are living under fascism, and all of the rubes are concerned with is how much they hate trump. This gives new meaning to the term, American Idiots.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post








        B-b-but Hillary!
        Obviously, lots of you here think Trump doesn't need the GOP controlled Congress. He doesn't need anyone.
        Trump needs the American people, more than he needs the GOP congress. He rightfully stands by the American people when the GOP congress betray's us.

        He can spend his entire presidency just tweeting to his heart's content, pissing off anyone and everyone,
        Well if you believe everyone is the congress, that view is exactly the opposite of Democratic Republic. Think like that, Think Monarchy, Dictatorship. The kings with their worshipers, or Dictators might be pissed off, but they are not everyone. Government run by the people. He's not pissing the people off with his tweets, and we are the anyone's who count.

        insulting and degrading his closest allies and advisers,
        That's not happening. His closest allies and advisers are the American voters that elected him. We don't feel insulted or degraded by him.

        and when nothing gets done, the whole world will blame anyone but Trump.
        And who is to blame for the past 8 years, especially the time in which the Republicans held both houses, and got nothing done for Republican voters? So the congress follows the same pattern, and all of the sudden it should be Trump to blame. LOL! Not rational or logical.

        The WORLD believes Trump is getting something done. Our Allies support him, (not pissed off), our enemies fear him, (pissed off), and others respect him. It's only the self serving and irrational populations that blame Trump for EVERYTHING and ANYTHING. And are trying to manipulate others to join in the lunacy.

        At this point, I'm wondering if the Pentagon via Mattis has a contingency plan in case Trump decides to start WW III. Will they follow his orders to nuke North Korea on a whim? Will they do it because he wants the 'ratings'?
        With that mindset. It would have been better to give in to slave holders because we didn't want to start a war. What would America, and the world look like today had we not stood up to the bullies, which induced a war to free the slaves in America, which lead the world in human rights and freeing slaves. Better to be held hostage and feed evil allowing it to gain more power, for fear of war that free's people from evil and the threat of more? Think "The land of the Free, and the home of the Brave." Not the land negotiators for freedom and home of the weak and timid.

        If Tillerman is willing to openly call Trump a fucking moron, what do you think the Pentagon brass is saying behind closed doors?
        You got proof that Tillerson called him that? Could be fake news. You know unnamed sources. Think of what you ASSUME the pentagon might be saying. Nothing but an opinion based on person beliefs and no facts.

        What will Congress do if or when Trump starts firing his entire cabinet?
        Don't know, no one knows. Hope the Congress gets a clue that the corrupt get fired and outed. Maybe they'll think twice when betraying the American people.

        What about his entire White House staff?
        Do your job honestly or get fired. I'm good with that. Too many Obama hold overs anyway. Should have been fired long ago. New staff plays the Washington game. Fire them. Good move!

        When the leaks of what staffers have said to Mueller come to light,
        What leaks of Trump doing wrong are you talking about? Leaks you want to believe will do him in? No one has any idea if there is anything bad to leak. Have you got some factual and provable info that no one else has? If not, it's just a theory based on a narrative that you want to be true with no indication of any truth being behind it.

        Trump is liable to blow a gasket and literally become a danger to himself and others.
        Repeating the mantra for those who which to manipulate the country to believe Trump is unstable to disguise their own corruption and wrong doings. Because if Trump ain't crazy, people might pay attention to mass corruption in Washington.





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        • #19
          Originally posted by msc View Post

          Obviously, lots of you here think Trump doesn't need the GOP controlled Congress. He doesn't need anyone.
          Trump needs the American people, more than he needs the GOP congress. He rightfully stands by the American people when the GOP congress betray's us.
          Unfortunately, the American people don't get to vote in this congressional session. That is the purview of the GOP controlled Congress. If ANY legislation is going to be passed, it will only happen with the cooperation of this Congress. Trump should know this by now. Nevertheless, hardly a week goes by that he doesn't get into a pissing with someone who he needs to move his agenda forward.

          He can spend his entire presidency just tweeting to his heart's content, pissing off anyone and everyone,
          Well if you believe everyone is the congress, that view is exactly the opposite of Democratic Republic. Think like that, Think Monarchy, Dictatorship. The kings with their worshipers, or Dictators might be pissed off, but they are not everyone. Government run by the people. He's not pissing the people off with his tweets, and we are the anyone's who count.
          Again, that's a pipe dream. Congress will be the ones who pass Trump's desired legislation, not 'the people.'
          It has been said that politics is the art of compromise and diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell and making them look forward to the trip. Trump has failed to master either of these skills and therefore his pen has not touched any significant bill out of Congress.


          insulting and degrading his closest allies and advisers,
          That's not happening. His closest allies and advisers are the American voters that elected him. We don't feel insulted or degraded by him.
          So, are you saying that since they apparently have installed a revolving door in the West Wing, Trump can run the entire executive branch all by himself?

          The WORLD believes Trump is getting something done. Our Allies support him ...
          Do you have any evidence to support this assertion?

          At this point, I'm wondering if the Pentagon via Mattis has a contingency plan in case Trump decides to start WW III. Will they follow his orders to nuke North Korea on a whim? Will they do it because he wants the 'ratings'?
          With that mindset. It would have been better to give in to slave holders because we didn't want to start a war. What would America, and the world look like today had we not stood up to the bullies, which induced a war to free the slaves in America, which lead the world in human rights and freeing slaves. Better to be held hostage and feed evil allowing it to gain more power, for fear of war that free's people from evil and the threat of more? Think "The land of the Free, and the home of the Brave." Not the land negotiators for freedom and home of the weak and timid.
          Is it your assertion that the Civil War was started on a whim? That Lincoln did it for the ratings? Or because Jefferson Davis pissed Lincoln off with some schoolboy taunt?

          If Tillerman is willing to openly call Trump a fucking moron, what do you think the Pentagon brass is saying behind closed doors?
          You got proof that Tillerson called him that? Could be fake news. You know unnamed sources. Think of what you ASSUME the pentagon might be saying. Nothing but an opinion based on person beliefs and no facts.
          Here's what I do know: When asked directly, Tillerson did not deny it.

          When the leaks of what staffers have said to Mueller come to light,
          What leaks of Trump doing wrong are you talking about? Leaks you want to believe will do him in? No one has any idea if there is anything bad to leak. Have you got some factual and provable info that no one else has? If not, it's just a theory based on a narrative that you want to be true with no indication of any truth being behind it.
          I know how special counsel investigations work. I know that grand juries are not convened if there is nothing for them to hear. I know that if the investigation is not moving forward, the deputy AG can tell Mueller to pack up his tent and go home. The fact that he has not tells me there is something to leak. And the White House is a sieve.





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          • #20
            Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post

            Unfortunately, the American people don't get to vote in this congressional session. That is the purview of the GOP controlled Congress. If ANY legislation is going to be passed, it will only happen with the cooperation of this Congress. Trump should know this by now. Nevertheless, hardly a week goes by that he doesn't get into a pissing with someone who he needs to move his agenda forward.



            Again, that's a pipe dream. Congress will be the ones who pass Trump's desired legislation, not 'the people.'
            It has been said that politics is the art of compromise and diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell and making them look forward to the trip. Trump has failed to master either of these skills and therefore his pen has not touched any significant bill out of Congress.




            So, are you saying that since they apparently have installed a revolving door in the West Wing, Trump can run the entire executive branch all by himself?



            Do you have any evidence to support this assertion?



            Is it your assertion that the Civil War was started on a whim? That Lincoln did it for the ratings? Or because Jefferson Davis pissed Lincoln off with some schoolboy taunt?



            Here's what I do know: When asked directly, Tillerson did not deny it.



            I know how special counsel investigations work. I know that grand juries are not convened if there is nothing for them to hear. I know that if the investigation is not moving forward, the deputy AG can tell Mueller to pack up his tent and go home. The fact that he has not tells me there is something to leak. And the White House is a sieve.




            You hate Trump so why would it bother you that his agenda gets thwarted? I guess it's just about insulting Trump for you and not a policy issue.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

              You hate Trump so why would it bother you that his agenda gets thwarted? I guess it's just about insulting Trump for you and not a policy issue.
              My point in this thread is to demonstrate that Trump is incompetent. He is so egotistical and fragile that the moment anyone says anything he perceives as a threat or insult he has to, he must drop everything and address it, usually with some schoolyard comeback. It does not matter who it is or what the issue is, he cannot stop himself. He cannot stay focused on anything until he has in his mind dealt with the offender.

              No competent leader talks to or about his team or the individuals on the team the way this guy does and expects to get the results he wants.

              Trump is not a leader. He is a bully. He thinks that if he insults and denigrates all his allies in congress, they are not only going to follow him, they will sing his praises.

              It ain't gonna happen. This congress has eight years experience of opposing a president just because they could. They can out wait this fool as well.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                You're leaving out many, very important details - exactly like the alt-left news does. So yes, it's mostly lefty drivel you offer.
                By all means, tell us the details! You know the "many, very important details" that will refute what I have posted here. I dare ya!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post

                  My point in this thread is to demonstrate that Trump is incompetent. He is so egotistical and fragile that the moment anyone says anything he perceives as a threat or insult he has to, he must drop everything and address it, usually with some schoolyard comeback. It does not matter who it is or what the issue is, he cannot stop himself. He cannot stay focused on anything until he has in his mind dealt with the offender.

                  No competent leader talks to or about his team or the individuals on the team the way this guy does and expects to get the results he wants.

                  Trump is not a leader. He is a bully. He thinks that if he insults and denigrates all his allies in congress, they are not only going to follow him, they will sing his praises.

                  It ain't gonna happen. This congress has eight years experience of opposing a president just because they could. They can out wait this fool as well.
                  You may think him incompetent and mean but he is getting the job done that he promised he would, despite no cooperation from even his supposed Republican allies. He is focused enough on the job to gut Obamacare with no help from Congress:

                  Heres How Trump Has Silently Gutted Obamas Legacy

                  http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/13/he...obamas-legacy/

                  Trump has presided over the biggest stock market gain since Reagan despite all the liberal naysayers:

                  A "Terrified" Paul Krugman Wakes Each Morning in a "State of Existential Dread"

                  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timoth...essed-n2394836

                  Trump has put people back to work, saving all of us big bucks:

                  Feel Good Friday: Here's What These Coal Miners Did Before The Start Of Their Shift

                  Its an obvious swipe at the NFL players who take a knee during the national anthem that has torpedoed the leagues ratings, approval numbers, and ticket sales. At the same time, it could be viewed as a sign of triumph. After eight years, the Trump administration is ending the Obama-era war on coal and rescinding the so-called Clean Power Plan. The plan, which aimed to reduce carbon emissions by nearly 30 percent by 2030 from 2005 levels, was going to kill jobs, especially those in coal country. Fixed-income seniors would have had their home budgets torched, and millions of jobs within the Black and Hispanic communities could have been put on the chopping block.
                  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...shift-n2394786

                  Trump is ending the illegal DACA program which Obama illegally implemented:

                  Trump administration announces end of DACA immigration protection program

                  http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/05...a-immigration/

                  So, as far as being incompetent, is doesn't appear to me that is a valid argument. Does he hurt the feelings of those who feel instead of think? Probably but in my book that is a non-starter.

                  Last edited by OldmanDan; 1 week ago.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post
                    By all means, tell us the details! You know the "many, very important details" that will refute what I have posted here. I dare ya!
                    Hee heeee... of course you do.

                    I'll sit here for an hour and put together facts, figures and details that show how shallow what you write is.....

                    ... only to have you ignore them and come back with some wise-ass remark that's way off in the mists of meaningless.

                    Maybe sometime when I'm so desperately bored I'd rather commit suicide - I doubt that day will come.


                    b-b-b-ut hilary -winks-

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                      Hee heeee... of course you do.

                      I'll sit here for an hour and put together facts, figures and details that show how shallow what you write is.....

                      ... only to have you ignore them and come back with some wise-ass remark that's way off in the mists of meaningless.

                      Maybe sometime when I'm so desperately bored I'd rather commit suicide - I doubt that day will come.


                      b-b-b-ut hilary -winks-
                      Oh no, don't go to the trouble. Just say "You leave out details" and we'll all just accept it as fact.

                      Suicidal? No, you're just lazy.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                        You may think him incompetent and mean but he is getting the job done that he promised he would, despite no cooperation from even his supposed Republican allies. He is focused enough on the job to gut Obamacare with no help from Congress:

                        Heres How Trump Has Silently Gutted Obamas Legacy

                        http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/13/he...obamas-legacy/

                        Trump has presided over the biggest stock market gain since Reagan despite all the liberal naysayers:

                        A "Terrified" Paul Krugman Wakes Each Morning in a "State of Existential Dread"

                        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timoth...essed-n2394836

                        Trump has put people back to work, saving all of us big bucks:

                        Feel Good Friday: Here's What These Coal Miners Did Before The Start Of Their Shift



                        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...shift-n2394786

                        Trump is ending the illegal DACA program which Obama illegally implemented:

                        Trump administration announces end of DACA immigration protection program

                        http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/05...a-immigration/

                        So, as far as being incompetent, is doesn't appear to me that is a valid argument. Does he hurt the feelings of those who feel instead of think? Probably but in my book that is a non-starter.
                        Are you going to invest in coal? Well? Are you?

                        And are you in support of deporting people who, through no fault of their own, find themselves in this country? For many, this is the only country they've ever known. And how, pray tell, does sending them to a place, often without even the language, does that make your life better? That's what Jesus would do, right?

                        Yeah, just undo everything Obama did, and that's just gonna make this country just GREAT again. Let's just roll the clock back, oh, 50 or 60 years. That's how we're gonna make America great again. We need to go back to a time when women and coloreds knew their place. Isn't that right? And the gays can go back in the closet where they belong. Isn't that right?

                        Maybe Trump could raise Osama Bin Laden from the dead. That would be awesome, right?

                        And just today, Trump stripped about a million people of their healthcare by ending the subsidies. Make America GREAT again. Stupid poor people! Who needs 'em anyway?

                        Yeah, Trump is an awesome f8cking president. Best this country has ever seen. There is nothing he can't do.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post

                          Are you going to invest in coal? Well? Are you?

                          And are you in support of deporting people who, through no fault of their own, find themselves in this country? For many, this is the only country they've ever known. And how, pray tell, does sending them to a place, often without even the language, does that make your life better? That's what Jesus would do, right?

                          Yeah, just undo everything Obama did, and that's just gonna make this country just GREAT again. Let's just roll the clock back, oh, 50 or 60 years. That's how we're gonna make America great again. We need to go back to a time when women and coloreds knew their place. Isn't that right? And the gays can go back in the closet where they belong. Isn't that right?

                          Maybe Trump could raise Osama Bin Laden from the dead. That would be awesome, right?

                          And just today, Trump stripped about a million people of their healthcare by ending the subsidies. Make America GREAT again. Stupid poor people! Who needs 'em anyway?

                          Yeah, Trump is an awesome f8cking president. Best this country has ever seen. There is nothing he can't do.
                          Sounds like a purely emotional response to me with absolutely no logical context. No, I'm not investing in coal because I'm retired and not investing in anything but a little fishing equipment. As far as deporting people who are here illegally, what do you propose? If little Johnny grew up in a drug dealer home and all he knows is dealing drugs do we just let him continue dealing drugs because it would be mean to do otherwise? Where do you draw the line on following the laws passed by our elected representatives?

                          The people 50 or 60 years ago were the ones who changed laws that put coloreds and women in their place. There were moral values instilled in those people which are missing from society today. In 1964 I carried a rifle to school in my car every day and never locked the car in the school parking lot and never worried about that gun jumping out of my car and killing a classroom full of kids. People had moral values. Life mattered. Now, our abortion accepting culture tells us life doesn't really matter at all, it's all about moral relativity and situational ethics.

                          Bin Laden was not a good guy but he was put into power by the CIA under Clinton. Clinton had many opportunities to take him out quite legitimately but he and the wonderful Janet (the Waco Killer) Reno let him go. He was offered up on a platter and they turned down the offer. I don't believe that a few rogue Saudi radicals were the cause of 9/11 anyway but that's a different story.

                          Just today, Trump stripped illegal healthcare subsidies from many. He did not strip them of health care. Those same people had the same coverage before Obamacare as they had after Obamacare, just the government did not fund it and control it at the national level. Obamacare provided these people with insurance with deductibles so high that the premiums paid by the government simply allowed these people to say they had insurance while they had to pay their own health care costs out of pocket. It was an insane system which was designed to fail so that the Democrats could push government controlled universal care. Learn a little about the actualities and facts and give up on the emotional histrionics.

                          I see your girl Maxine came out today and decided that housing is now a right just as is health care. Pretty soon a new Mercedes will be a right for everyone. Makes you feel good I know but who is going to pay for it?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by HawkeyeDJ View Post



                            And are you in support of deporting people who, through no fault of their own, find themselves in this country? For many, this is the only country they've ever known. And how, pray tell, does sending them to a place, often without even the language, does that make your life better? That's what Jesus would do, right?
                            REPUBLICANS TELL DEMOCRATS: 'WE'LL GIVE YOU DACA IF YOU FUND TRUMP'S BORDER WALL'
                            http://www.newsweek.com/republicans-...er-wall-659488


                            Negotiation and compassion wrapped up in a ball coming from Trump's proposal.

                            Jesus would be pleased that Trump wants to take care of the poor people who through no fault of their own find themselves in this country. Now we'll find out if the Democrats and Progressives want them to take care of them. Trump said yes to bill allowing DACA to stay. Democrats sign the bill and DACA stays. The ball is in their court and the destiny of Dreamers relies on Democrats saying yes to the bill.

                            If the Dems don't sign, then it's clear that they care more about people from other countries than people living in America. Dreamers included. Not signing says getting more foreigners in illegally, faceless people that we don't even know, is more important than the future of the DACA children, that Dems claim to care so much about.


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                              No, I'm not investing in coal because I'm retired and not investing in anything but a little fishing equipment.
                              Which implies that if you were not retired, you'd think coal would be an awesome investment. The fact is, Trump has no interest in the needs of coal miners. The coal mine owners on the other hand, they need his help and they will get it as long as they serve his purposes.

                              As far as deporting people who are here illegally, what do you propose? If little Johnny grew up in a drug dealer home and all he knows is dealing drugs do we just let him continue dealing drugs because it would be mean to do otherwise? Where do you draw the line on following the laws passed by our elected representatives?
                              What about the paramedic Dreamer who was busy saving lives following hurricane Harvey? We need to get his ass back across the border where he belongs, right?

                              Why do you buy into the racist stereotype that all illegal immigrants are wanton criminals? OH yeah, that's right! Because Trump told you they were. It's those peasants who are your enemy. They simultaneously steal all your great paying jobs, commit all the crimes and use up all your welfare benefits. They are some amazing people.

                              The people 50 or 60 years ago were the ones who changed laws that put coloreds and women in their place. There were moral values instilled in those people which are missing from society today. In 1964 I carried a rifle to school in my car every day and never locked the car in the school parking lot and never worried about that gun jumping out of my car and killing a classroom full of kids. People had moral values. Life mattered. Now, our abortion accepting culture tells us life doesn't really matter at all, it's all about moral relativity and situational ethics.
                              Oh please! Spare me the "back in the good ole days" speech. What year was it when the nutjob sat in the University of Texas clock tower and mowed down dozens of innocent people? Was it your gun he used in 1966? Moral values? How moral was it to send 58,000 Americans to their deaths in Vietnam and then just walk away? How moral was it that a gunman assassinated the president and wounded a state governor? Or another gunman shot and killed one of the most prominent civil rights leaders or another that gunned down the front runner for the democratic nomination for president? How moral was it that people firebombed a black church killing black children to oppose civil rights? How moral was it that local officials turned police dogs and fire hoses on citizens who were peacefully assembling as provided for in the Constitution?

                              Yeah, tell us all about how life mattered back then. Then take off the rose colored glasses you're wearing.


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by msc View Post
                                REPUBLICANS TELL DEMOCRATS: 'WE'LL GIVE YOU DACA IF YOU FUND TRUMP'S BORDER WALL'
                                http://www.newsweek.com/republicans-...er-wall-659488


                                Negotiation and compassion wrapped up in a ball coming from Trump's proposal.

                                Jesus would be pleased that Trump wants to take care of the poor people who through no fault of their own find themselves in this country. Who's stopping DACA from standing? Not Trump. He proposed it. Why isn't it happening? Trumps asking for the Dems to agree to let the Dreamers stay. Why won't they agree?


                                Wait a minute! I thought Mexico was paying for the wall. Why is he asking the Congress for funding? Did Mexico turn him down? Didn't see that coming! That was a pretty big campaign promise as I recall. And I know that Trumpsters are really big on making sure Trump keeps his campaign promises. They hold him accountable for everything he says and does.

                                The republicans are basically saying "We'll show mercy to innocent people if you will sell out on bad legislation."

                                Sounds fair to me. What do you think?

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