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  • #46
    Originally posted by radcentr View Post
    Here's another update, and it is getting weirder, with Pruitt and close circle contributing their part. Link:

    http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...-controversial

    I count two executives falling on their sword, either to cover for Pruitt (if the claim that he shopped the raises at WH are true), or to remedy their own big mistakes in the hiring process (if Pruitt is really innocent). The two people that got the chunky raises were associates of Pruitt when he worked in Oklahoma, so there is a certain stink that remains, regardless of what really happened. That stink resembles a certain lawyer paying off a porn star, who was allegedly involved with his VIP client, then claiming his client didn't know about the payoff nor reimburse him for said transaction. Weirder and weirder. The rabbit hole takes another turn...
    Weirder and weirder... except it's been weird in D.C. for many decades LOL

    The corruptocracy has a disrupter (Trump) in their midst and they don't like it.

    It's pissed them off royally.

    Were the current president just another coelenterate, like the rest of them, all these big "scandals" wouldn't ever be mentioned.

    Even if they were exactly the same items !

    Say what you will about trump, he is exposing these lowlife people in DC, and the "media," for the double-standard loving hypocrites they are.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

      Weirder and weirder... except it's been weird in D.C. for many decades LOL

      The corruptocracy has a disrupter (Trump) in their midst and they don't like it.

      It's pissed them off royally.

      Were the current president just another coelenterate, like the rest of them, all these big "scandals" wouldn't ever be mentioned.

      Even if they were exactly the same items !

      Say what you will about trump, he is exposing these lowlife people in DC, and the "media," for the double-standard loving hypocrites they are.
      The media has been doing an excellent job covering the big scandal. You may have heard that Trump's lawyer has been raided. Contrary to what crooked Donald might say the Jack boots don't get to make these kinds of raids without cause. The raid was sanctioned at the highest levels of Justice.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by redrover View Post
        The media has been doing an excellent job covering the big scandal. You may have heard that Trump's lawyer has been raided. Contrary to what crooked Donald might say the Jack boots don't get to make these kinds of raids without cause. The raid was sanctioned at the highest levels of Justice.
        Uh huh..

        The media will move on to keep us busy with another "scandal" when this one goes no-where.

        They and the insects in D.C. are making noise in whatever way possible to try to make us all imagine something bad about this president.

        They dig, hoot and holler ... then wander off, when there's nothing there. Wander off in search of something else ... something different every week or month.. it's getting boring actually. Though it is strange that these people don't seem to realize how desperate & stupid they're making themselves look.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

          Uh huh..

          The media will move on to keep us busy with another "scandal" when this one goes no-where.

          They and the insects in D.C. are making noise in whatever way possible to try to make us all imagine something bad about this president.

          They dig, hoot and holler ... then wander off, when there's nothing there. Wander off in search of something else ... something different every week or month.. it's getting boring actually. Though it is strange that these people don't seem to realize how desperate & stupid they're making themselves look.
          Why, if these search warrants could just be dismissed, or make the prez immune, he could proceed to dismantle the deep state. If everything goes according to plan, he'll be able to replace it with an even deeper state.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by radcentr View Post
            Why, if these search warrants could just be dismissed, or make the prez immune, he could proceed to dismantle the deep state. If everything goes according to plan, he'll be able to replace it with an even deeper state.
            Or MAYBE with people that are doing what they're supposed to be doing;

            working for the people of America and working to support Americas best interests.

            Of course we know there are many that don't think the current whitehouse occupant is capable of such grand things... but as is often stated; The truth is stranger than fiction.... sometimes at least LOL

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

              Or MAYBE with people that are doing what they're supposed to be doing;

              working for the people of America and working to support Americas best interests.

              Of course we know there are many that don't think the current whitehouse occupant is capable of such grand things... but as is often stated; The truth is stranger than fiction.... sometimes at least LOL
              Do you think trying to subvert the justice system is in the best interests of Americans or is that just a remnant of the deep state? Here is what Joe Scarborough has to say about the attacks on the FBI and Mueller.http://thehill.com/homenews/media/38...r-hero-mueller

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              • #52
                Originally posted by redrover View Post

                Do you think trying to subvert the justice system is in the best interests of Americans or is that just a remnant of the deep state? Here is what Joe Scarborough has to say about the attacks on the FBI and Mueller.http://thehill.com/homenews/media/38...r-hero-mueller
                Muller is as useless, corrupt and incompetent as comey.

                But you wouldn't know that getting information from where you get it.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                  Muller is as useless, corrupt and incompetent as comey.

                  But you wouldn't know that getting information from where you get it.
                  That claim, Meuller "...is as useless, corrupt and incompetent as comey", is more wishful thinking than fact-based. Comey went thru various rabbit holes (Hillary to Trump) that demonstrated his collapse under political pressure. Hence...the incompetence you mention.

                  Where do you see that with Meuller? We get very little in the way of leaks or political pressure (going from or to his working group), but if you've got evidence to the contrary, make your case.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by radcentr View Post

                    That claim, Meuller "...is as useless, corrupt and incompetent as comey", is more wishful thinking than fact-based. Comey went thru various rabbit holes (Hillary to Trump) that demonstrated his collapse under political pressure. Hence...the incompetence you mention.

                    Where do you see that with Meuller? We get very little in the way of leaks or political pressure (going from or to his working group), but if you've got evidence to the contrary, make your case.
                    From Comey's book we learn that Trump didn't care about interested in investigating election meddling but he wanted the FBI to investigate the story that he was frolicking with Russian prostitutes in 2013 because they were making his wife sad. Your tax dollar at work. Comey wasn't fired for incompetence according to Trump. He admitted it was about Russia.https://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams...w-942122051703

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by radcentr View Post
                      That claim, Meuller "...is as useless, corrupt and incompetent as comey", is more wishful thinking than fact-based. Comey went thru various rabbit holes (Hillary to Trump) that demonstrated his collapse under political pressure. Hence...the incompetence you mention.

                      Where do you see that with Meuller? We get very little in the way of leaks or political pressure (going from or to his working group), but if you've got evidence to the contrary, make your case.
                      Pay attention, you'll learn of it eventually. Comey & muller are/were both corrupt and dangerous dirt-bags and it will become well known soon enough.

                      Meantime - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...658#post552658

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                        Pay attention, you'll learn of it eventually. Comey & muller are/were both corrupt and dangerous dirt-bags and it will become well known soon enough.

                        Meantime - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...658#post552658
                        Your link mentions John Yoo now there is a dirt bag for you. I refer you to the excellent book by Jane Mayer, The Dark Side.

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                        • #57
                          Mueller.

                          Dirty.

                          Just like Comey.... who is doing a "blockbuster" interview VERY soon !!!

                          A Blockbuster covermyassandtrytoconvinceyouI'manhonorableman interview. If you happen, at the time, to need syrup of ipecac - skip it and watch Comey do the slugwiggle-n-slimemold-jiggle... free barfing on hand thanks to our great men & women of the FBI !!! LOL

                          Comey is such a pus-bucket LOL

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                          Carl Ferrer, the CEO of Backpage.com, an alleged sex trafficking website that was taken down by feds just as they were arresting a number of its executives, is pleading guilty to conspiracy and money laundering, and likely will serve time in prison under a plea agreement.

                          Its a steep fall after having been honored by Robert Mueller, then FBI director and now special counsel in an investigation that has yet to find evidence of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign of 2016.

                          NBC News reported the latest on Ferrers case.

                          The site was dubbed an online brothel by prosecutors, and this week Ferrer pleaded guilty to reduced charges in a plea bargain that will have him cooperate in the prosecution against others.

                          Backpage founders Michael Lacey and James Larkin have pleaded not guilty.

                          Multiple online reports, including by the GOP Briefing Room and True Pundit, documented Muellers honoring of Ferrer in 2011.

                          The image of the award from the FBI, signed by Mueller, states the bureau is proud to recognize Carl Ferrer, Vice President, Backpage.com for your outstanding cooperation and assistance in connection with an investigation of great importance. The FBIs ability to carry out its investigative responsibilities to the American people has been greatly enhanced through your help, and you can be very proud of your valuable contributions to the success achieved.

                          FBI sources said the honor might even have included a cash reward.

                          Backpage was accused of posting sex business ads in violation of the law.

                          The reports also noted it apparently isnt the first controversy in which Mueller was involved.

                          A report by the Howie Carr show said questions remain about what Mueller knew about the FBIs decision to frame four innocent men for a murder they didnt commit.

                          The report explains: This is a major FBI scandal, perhaps the most outrageous one in American history. The FBI railroaded four men to prison for a murder the G-men knew they did not commit, and then made sure they remained in prison for upwards of 30 years.

                          They (or their estates, because two of them died in prison) were eventually awarded a total of $102 million in 2007 by a federal judge for false imprisonment.

                          The four were Henry Tameleo, Peter Limone, Louis Greco and Joseph Salvati, and they were sentenced for the death of small-time hoodlum Teddy Deegan in a Chelsea alley in March 1965.

                          The report explained that an FBI informant committed perjury to settle old scores and protect a friend.

                          In fact, the FBI had the names of the actual murderers.

                          Yet the FBI remained silent as the four men were convicted, and then imprisoned. Two were sent to what was then Death Row, the report said.


                          Flash forward to the 1980s, when the U.S. at...



                          http://www.wnd.com/2018/04/mueller-g...ex-trafficker/

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                            Mueller.

                            Dirty.
                            ....
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                            Carl Ferrer, the CEO of Backpage.com, an alleged sex trafficking website that was taken down by feds just as they were arresting a number of its executives, is pleading guilty to conspiracy and money laundering, and likely will serve time in prison under a plea agreement.

                            Its a steep fall after having been honored by Robert Mueller, then FBI director and now special counsel in an investigation that has yet to find evidence of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign of 2016.
                            ...

                            The four were Henry Tameleo, Peter Limone, Louis Greco and Joseph Salvati, and they were sentenced for the death of small-time hoodlum Teddy Deegan in a Chelsea alley in March 1965.

                            The report explained that an FBI informant committed perjury to settle old scores and protect a friend.

                            In fact, the FBI had the names of the actual murderers.

                            Yet the FBI remained silent as the four men were convicted, and then imprisoned. Two were sent to what was then Death Row, the report said.


                            Flash forward to the 1980s, when the U.S. at...



                            http://www.wnd.com/2018/04/mueller-g...ex-trafficker/
                            Mueller was on board with the FBI starting in 2001, some time after their Bulger scandal had broken. The one to pin this one on is the FBI agent (Connolly) handling Bulger, the regional FBI management (fe, Connolly's boss) and that federal district's federal prosecutor at the time Bulger went on the lam (1994). In contrast, here's the timeline for Meuller and Boston:
                            ...Mueller then moved east to become assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Massachusetts in 1982, and served as the district's acting attorney from 1986 to '87.

                            Following a year at the Boston firm of Hill and Barlow, Mueller joined the U.S. Department of Justice in 1989 to spearhead the prosecution of Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega. He took charge of the DOJ's criminal division in 1990, where he oversaw the Lockerbie bombing case and formed the agency's first cyber-dedicated unit.
                            https://www.biography.com/people/robert-mueller-241110

                            He became FBI director one week before the 9/11 attacks. He pushed back against the Bush administration's funny business with domestic spying, according to the biography link.

                            I understand the objective of you and your source -connect Mueller to dirty dealings with organized crime or other criminal activity. But the timing doesn't fit, unless one is going to paint everyone in the FBI with the same brush, including anyone near and far within that federal district's attorney's office. Everyone near and far in time as well as distance. Mueller wrote letters opposing clemency for the 4 guys framed by the FBI/Bulger gang? He was still in university studies, around 20 years old when the case started, and would still be in law school when the frame was executed. Perhaps he'll respond that he was asked for the letters by his colleagues in the Boston office, and he innocently complied. Yes, in hindsight, he should have investigated. If there were credible rumors in the 80's that something was too rotten with the Bulger operation, Mueller should rightfully be criticized. If the rumors claimed the Bulger case was a "bit smelly", we're talking about FBI informants against large, organized crime families. That business is ALWAYS a "bit smelly". Get something on Mueller that he was directing, rather than being somewhere nearby.

                            Since we have at least one verified crime by prosecutors (the four guys that were framed), I'm surprised Mueller's opponents haven't moved to at least disbar -if not prosecute- the clowns who framed innocent men. That action -even if done posthumously against some agents/prosecutors involved- would give them an opportunity to detail their case against Mueller while cleaning up the justice system. If this was already done, it was not cited in their argument against Mueller. Clearing cases and jailing (or stripping certification) of those who abuse our justice system being more important, I'm going to argue that the evidence against Mueller is presented by mere opportunists; it is not presented by those who have a genuine interest in cleaning up federal investigation and prosecution systems.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by radcentr View Post
                              Mueller was on board with the FBI starting in 2001, some time after their Bulger scandal had broken. The one to pin this one on is the FBI agent (Connolly) handling Bulger, the regional FBI management (fe, Connolly's boss) and that federal district's federal prosecutor at the time Bulger went on the lam (1994). In contrast, here's the timeline for Meuller and Boston:

                              https://www.biography.com/people/robert-mueller-241110

                              He became FBI director one week before the 9/11 attacks. He pushed back against the Bush administration's funny business with domestic spying, according to the biography link.

                              I understand the objective of you and your source -connect Mueller to dirty dealings with organized crime or other criminal activity. But the timing doesn't fit, unless one is going to paint everyone in the FBI with the same brush, including anyone near and far within that federal district's attorney's office. Everyone near and far in time as well as distance. Mueller wrote letters opposing clemency for the 4 guys framed by the FBI/Bulger gang? He was still in university studies, around 20 years old when the case started, and would still be in law school when the frame was executed. Perhaps he'll respond that he was asked for the letters by his colleagues in the Boston office, and he innocently complied. Yes, in hindsight, he should have investigated. If there were credible rumors in the 80's that something was too rotten with the Bulger operation, Mueller should rightfully be criticized. If the rumors claimed the Bulger case was a "bit smelly", we're talking about FBI informants against large, organized crime families. That business is ALWAYS a "bit smelly". Get something on Mueller that he was directing, rather than being somewhere nearby.

                              Since we have at least one verified crime by prosecutors (the four guys that were framed), I'm surprised Mueller's opponents haven't moved to at least disbar -if not prosecute- the clowns who framed innocent men. That action -even if done posthumously against some agents/prosecutors involved- would give them an opportunity to detail their case against Mueller while cleaning up the justice system. If this was already done, it was not cited in their argument against Mueller. Clearing cases and jailing (or stripping certification) of those who abuse our justice system being more important, I'm going to argue that the evidence against Mueller is presented by mere opportunists; it is not presented by those who have a genuine interest in cleaning up federal investigation and prosecution systems.
                              A few weeks ago I saw a discussion on why the law had to cultivate relationships with such unsavory characters? The answer was we would like to interact with nuns and kindergarten teachers, but they aren't the ones who have the information we need.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by redrover View Post

                                A few weeks ago I saw a discussion on why the law had to cultivate relationships with such unsavory characters? The answer was we would like to interact with nuns and kindergarten teachers, but they aren't the ones who have the information we need.
                                That's a good response. Unless the nun happens to have a brother who is a "made man" in the local organization, and he regularly tells sis what's going on.

                                On a more serious note, I'm all in favor of criticizing bad moves by our law enforcement and prosecution staff. But that criticism has to be measured against the mistakes that were made. Mueller failed to investigate the four men who were framed on a murder charge, before he submitted a letter to a parole board. His mistake was significant, but the much bigger mistake was made by those law enforcement and prosecution attorneys who framed four men for a murder, thereby depriving innocent men of their liberty and letting the real murder(ers) go free.

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