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  • Vote Against the GOP

    An interesting read, what are your thoughts on this ? Read the entire article before coming to a conclusion.

    Seems that he's making the case that the R's are so weak and incompetent - which I agree with - that their presence is nearly meaningless anyways.

    He says; "The congressional Republican caucuses must be substantially reduced. So substantially that their remnants, reduced to minorities, will be stripped of the Constitution's Article I powers that they have been too invertebrate to use against the current wielder of Article II powers. They will then have leisure time to wonder why they worked so hard to achieve membership in a legislature whose unexercised muscles have atrophied because of people like them."

    Strangely enough I have a feeling we're going to hear warning after warning after warning that the world will go to hell in a sidecar if we don't "vote republican"....

    ... so they can get rich while they allow the world will go to hell in a sidecar LOL

    I don't know ? What do you think ?

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    Vote Against the GOP
    By George Will
    Saturday, 23 June 2018


    Amid the carnage of Republican misrule in Washington, there is this glimmer of good news: The family-shredding policy along the southern border, which was merely the most telegenic recent example of misrule, clarified something. Occurring less than 140 days before elections that can reshape Congress, the policy has given independents and temperate Republicans these are probably expanding and contracting cohorts, respectively fresh if redundant evidence for the principle by which they should vote.

    The principle is: The congressional Republican caucuses must be substantially reduced. So substantially that their remnants, reduced to minorities, will be stripped of the Constitution's Article I powers that they have been too invertebrate to use against the current wielder of Article II powers. They will then have leisure time to wonder why they worked so hard to achieve membership in a legislature whose unexercised muscles have atrophied because of people like them.

    Consider the melancholy example of House Speaker Paul Ryan, who wagered his dignity on the patently false proposition that it is possible to have sustained transactions with today's president, this Vesuvius of mendacities, without being degraded. In Robert Bolt's play "A Man for All Seasons," Thomas More, having angered Henry VIII, is on trial for his life. When Richard Rich, who More had once mentored, commits perjury against More in exchange for the office of attorney general for Wales. More says: "Why, Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world . . . But for Wales!" Ryan traded his political soul for . . . a tax cut. He who formerly spoke truths about the accelerating crisis of the entitlement system lost everything in the service of a president pledged to preserve the unsustainable status quo.

    Ryan and many other Republicans have become the president's poodles, not because James Madison's system has failed but because today's abject careerists have failed to be worthy of it. As Madison explained it in Federalist 51: "Ambition must be made to counteract ambition. The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place." Congressional Republicans (congressional Democrats are equally supine toward Democratic presidents) have no higher ambition than to placate this president. By leaving dormant the powers inherent in their institution, they vitiate the Constitution's vital principle, the separation of powers.

    Recently Sen. Bob Corker, the Tennessee Republican who is retiring, became an exception that illuminates the depressing rule. He proposed a measure by which Congress could retrieve a small portion of the policymaking power that it has, over many decades and under both parties, improvidently delegated to presidents. Congress has done this out of sloth and timidity to duck hard work and risky choices. Corker's measure would have required Congress to vote to approve any trade restrictions imposed in the name of "national security." All Senate Republicans worthy of the conservative label that all Senate Republicans flaunt would privately admit that this is conducive to sound governance and true to the Constitution's structure. But the Senate would not vote on it would not allow it to become just the second amendment voted on this year.

    This is because the amendment would have peeved the easily peeved president. The Republican-controlled Congress, which waited for Trump to undo by unilateral decree the border folly they could have prevented by actually legislating, is an advertisement for the unimportance of Republican control.

    The Trump whisperer regarding immigration is Stephen Miller, 32, whose ascent to eminence began when he became the Savonarola of Santa Monica High School. Corey Lewandowski, a Trump campaign official who fell from the king's grace but is crawling back (he works for Mike Pence's political action committee), recently responded on Fox News to the story of a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome taken from her parents at the border. Lewandowski replied: "Wah, wah." Meaningless noise is this administration's appropriate libretto because, just as a magnet attracts iron filings, Trump attracts, and is attracted to, louts.

    In today's GOP, which is the president's plaything, he is the mainstream. So, to vote against his party's cowering congressional caucuses is to affirm the nation's honor while quarantining him. A Democratic-controlled Congress would be a basket of deplorables, but there would be enough Republicans to gum up the Senate's machinery, keeping the institution as peripheral as it has been under their control, and asphyxiating mischief from a Democratic House. And to those who say, "But the judges, the judges!" the answer is: Article III institutions are not more important than those of Articles I and II combined.


    https://www.newsmax.com/georgewill/r.../21/id/867638/

  • #2
    OF course, the question must then be asked, "I vote against GOP ... then what are the alternatives?"

    The primary alternative is untenable, even as vapid as the GOP has become ... at least they're not progressives. I like the concept, but would enlarge it to include democraps, too, which in to day's environment gets us to what I believe we are already seeing: People NOT voting at all (which won't work either).

    Regrettably, until there is a viable third choice, I will continue to hold my nose and vote repugnant'ican.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
      OF course, the question must then be asked, "I vote against GOP ... then what are the alternatives?"

      The primary alternative is untenable, even as vapid as the GOP has become ... at least they're not progressives. I like the concept, but would enlarge it to include democraps, too, which in to day's environment gets us to what I believe we are already seeing: People NOT voting at all (which won't work either).

      Regrettably, until there is a viable third choice, I will continue to hold my nose and vote repugnant'ican.
      I understand.

      This explains why we must not allow our crazy liberals to have any power.

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      All around us, the current cold civil war rages. We are in constant battles as part of this war and have been for years. It's almost impossible to avoid engaging in some skirmish, since the left has politicized everything from the NFL to kindergarten. Leftists started this war they are the ones who wanted wholesale change in our culture, our country, our mores, our lifestyles.

      Our RINO party neither comprehends nor engages much in this war. Most don't recognize what's happening as anything other than politics as usual.

      The main reason Trump won the nomination, and the reasons for his win: The base on the center-right instinctively knew the stakes. Trump championed the issues that the base wanted put forth. He saw the fecklessness of the other candidates, harnessed the base, and won.

      It's difficult to find much good to say about the current GOP elites. It's difficult not to want to scream at them as they carp about Trump's style. It's difficult to find anything nice to say about the NeverTrumps, or about those who do not support Trump whole heartedly.

      Here's why: the stakes. They couldn't be higher.

      This "last best hope on Earth" hangs in the balance. Right now. It's on the tipping edge. Leftists thinks they have the strength to take control of America once and for all. They are looking for the kill shot. They want to usher in their pipe dream of transforming America into what they think will be a country with no bias, fully converted to their idea of what's good.

      Sort of like Venezuela. Or Cuba. Or what East Germany once was.

      You may be saying, "No one on the left wants that, and you know it." Except they did. And they really do. Some of it may be ignorance of the lethality and long history of failure from their own ideas. Some might be simply nave, but most really do want to totally change our constitution, freedoms, and laws. They want them replaced with their ideas.

      The potential end of "the last best hope on Earth" has been staring us in the face since the radical left took over the Democratic Party. One after another, people who should have known better became hard leftists. One after another, they purged the party of any moderates and pushed the most radical into the positions of power. They embraced becoming what Jordan Peterson calls the postmodernist neo-Marxists.

      That's his description of contemptible tyrants.

      Oh, come now. We just need to reach across the aisle to compromise with these (um, er) friends! That's the plaintive cry of the infamous RINO class. The weary whine of the Vichy Republicans. The pathetic wail of the Stockholm Syndrome GOP.

      The party of JFK is gone, baby, gone. There is not even a hint of a JFK or Hubert Humphrey now. Not the slightest tempering of a Scoop Jackson. Nor an iota of the fiery pro-American Truman. They've all gone hard left.

      They have new goals. Hate the founding of America. Freedom and liberty are just no good anymore.

      Destroy the "evils" of a free market economy. Replace it with socialism
      .

      Balkanize a racial divide. Hate whites; get as many whites to be self-loathing as possible. Keep blacks and Hispanics on the Democrat plantation. Never integrate.

      Reinvent biological sex. Confuse an entire generation. Make sex become anything they want it to be at the time, but mainly use it to bludgeon white males or conservatives of any race or sex. Just because they deserve it. Because they are all toxic.

      Replace the voting base of America with illegal aliens who can be manipulated more easily by emotional appeals for their votes. Power forever (in their minds).

      Destroy the ability to debate the ideas of the left. Destroy anyone who is effective in countering the left's narratives. And be violent. Make it appear criminal to have a differing viewpoint, or work for anyone other than the left.

      The list of terrible, no-good, nasty things the left has done in the past decade could fill a book. Just in the past week:

      Sarah Huckabee Sanders was nastily removed from a restaurant.

      DHS secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was treated likewise at a restaurant and had her home address leaked, to be rushed by an angry mob.


      The latest ploy, the latest outrage is the chorus du jour that Trump, the evil, heartless one, wants to make babies cry by taking them away from their parents. All his voters are racist and heartless. Russia, Russia, Russia has failed. So has Stormy Daniels. Now on to the next thing.

      How dare he?

      It doesn't matter that the narrative is preposterous, that it's untrue, that it's just as true about their hero Barack, because that's not important. It doesn't matter that Sanders and Nielsen were simply living their lives. What's important is to use Alinsky rule thirteen: "pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

      They have clearly decided that this is the way to win. They are all in. They, and their media slaves, have been using this tactic for years. The issue is malleable, but the important thing is to wear Trump and his co-workers down, wear down his base, separate him from his voters, destroy him one issue at a time. Over ninety percent negativity in their reporting.

      The lies will never stop. Not until we the people of the United States throw them out. Or capitulate.

      It will never stop until we pull down their strongholds, until we stop rewarding them for being such petty tyrants. Call it the unintended consequences of the Trump win. Call it the never-ending march of the left into violence, incivility, and insanity. Call it a breakdown in our discourse.

      Never underestimate the stakes: letting these leftists regain their power. Letting them continue to destroy our culture, our institutions, our lives.

      They must never be allowed to hold the reins of power again.

      Ronald Reagan said, "If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."

      Or, as Lincoln called us, "the last best hope on Earth."

      In the end, this battle will be in the hands of the American voter the ones who go to work and follow the rules and use their freedoms to better their position in life. With nerves of steel, they have to beat those who do not.

      Because the left isn't really nice, doesn't really care about people, isn't compassionate, and doesn't hold smart ideas. Leftists care about power. Their agenda is destructive. It's shameful.

      Be educated. Be vigilant. Throw the RINOs and phonies out when you can. Fight them and hold them back if you can't get rid of them.

      And never allow a leftist to win again if you can help it. Even if they pretend to be conservative. Or high-minded. Or nice. Or compassionate.

      Because they're not.


      https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ump_poker.html

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

        I understand.

        This explains why we must not allow our crazy liberals to have any power.

        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

        All around us, the current cold civil war rages. We are in constant battles as part of this war and have been for years. It's almost impossible to avoid engaging in some skirmish, since the left has politicized everything from the NFL to kindergarten. Leftists started this war they are the ones who wanted wholesale change in our culture, our country, our mores, our lifestyles.

        Our RINO party neither comprehends nor engages much in this war. Most don't recognize what's happening as anything other than politics as usual.

        The main reason Trump won the nomination, and the reasons for his win: The base on the center-right instinctively knew the stakes. Trump championed the issues that the base wanted put forth. He saw the fecklessness of the other candidates, harnessed the base, and won.

        It's difficult to find much good to say about the current GOP elites. It's difficult not to want to scream at them as they carp about Trump's style. It's difficult to find anything nice to say about the NeverTrumps, or about those who do not support Trump whole heartedly.

        Here's why: the stakes. They couldn't be higher.

        This "last best hope on Earth" hangs in the balance. Right now. It's on the tipping edge. Leftists thinks they have the strength to take control of America once and for all. They are looking for the kill shot. They want to usher in their pipe dream of transforming America into what they think will be a country with no bias, fully converted to their idea of what's good.

        Sort of like Venezuela. Or Cuba. Or what East Germany once was.

        You may be saying, "No one on the left wants that, and you know it." Except they did. And they really do. Some of it may be ignorance of the lethality and long history of failure from their own ideas. Some might be simply nave, but most really do want to totally change our constitution, freedoms, and laws. They want them replaced with their ideas.

        The potential end of "the last best hope on Earth" has been staring us in the face since the radical left took over the Democratic Party. One after another, people who should have known better became hard leftists. One after another, they purged the party of any moderates and pushed the most radical into the positions of power. They embraced becoming what Jordan Peterson calls the postmodernist neo-Marxists.

        That's his description of contemptible tyrants.

        Oh, come now. We just need to reach across the aisle to compromise with these (um, er) friends! That's the plaintive cry of the infamous RINO class. The weary whine of the Vichy Republicans. The pathetic wail of the Stockholm Syndrome GOP.

        The party of JFK is gone, baby, gone. There is not even a hint of a JFK or Hubert Humphrey now. Not the slightest tempering of a Scoop Jackson. Nor an iota of the fiery pro-American Truman. They've all gone hard left.

        They have new goals. Hate the founding of America. Freedom and liberty are just no good anymore.

        Destroy the "evils" of a free market economy. Replace it with socialism
        .

        Balkanize a racial divide. Hate whites; get as many whites to be self-loathing as possible. Keep blacks and Hispanics on the Democrat plantation. Never integrate.

        Reinvent biological sex. Confuse an entire generation. Make sex become anything they want it to be at the time, but mainly use it to bludgeon white males or conservatives of any race or sex. Just because they deserve it. Because they are all toxic.

        Replace the voting base of America with illegal aliens who can be manipulated more easily by emotional appeals for their votes. Power forever (in their minds).

        Destroy the ability to debate the ideas of the left. Destroy anyone who is effective in countering the left's narratives. And be violent. Make it appear criminal to have a differing viewpoint, or work for anyone other than the left.

        The list of terrible, no-good, nasty things the left has done in the past decade could fill a book. Just in the past week:

        Sarah Huckabee Sanders was nastily removed from a restaurant.

        DHS secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was treated likewise at a restaurant and had her home address leaked, to be rushed by an angry mob.


        The latest ploy, the latest outrage is the chorus du jour that Trump, the evil, heartless one, wants to make babies cry by taking them away from their parents. All his voters are racist and heartless. Russia, Russia, Russia has failed. So has Stormy Daniels. Now on to the next thing.

        How dare he?

        It doesn't matter that the narrative is preposterous, that it's untrue, that it's just as true about their hero Barack, because that's not important. It doesn't matter that Sanders and Nielsen were simply living their lives. What's important is to use Alinsky rule thirteen: "pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

        They have clearly decided that this is the way to win. They are all in. They, and their media slaves, have been using this tactic for years. The issue is malleable, but the important thing is to wear Trump and his co-workers down, wear down his base, separate him from his voters, destroy him one issue at a time. Over ninety percent negativity in their reporting.

        The lies will never stop. Not until we the people of the United States throw them out. Or capitulate.

        It will never stop until we pull down their strongholds, until we stop rewarding them for being such petty tyrants. Call it the unintended consequences of the Trump win. Call it the never-ending march of the left into violence, incivility, and insanity. Call it a breakdown in our discourse.

        Never underestimate the stakes: letting these leftists regain their power. Letting them continue to destroy our culture, our institutions, our lives.

        They must never be allowed to hold the reins of power again.

        Ronald Reagan said, "If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."

        Or, as Lincoln called us, "the last best hope on Earth."

        In the end, this battle will be in the hands of the American voter the ones who go to work and follow the rules and use their freedoms to better their position in life. With nerves of steel, they have to beat those who do not.

        Because the left isn't really nice, doesn't really care about people, isn't compassionate, and doesn't hold smart ideas. Leftists care about power. Their agenda is destructive. It's shameful.

        Be educated. Be vigilant. Throw the RINOs and phonies out when you can. Fight them and hold them back if you can't get rid of them.

        And never allow a leftist to win again if you can help it. Even if they pretend to be conservative. Or high-minded. Or nice. Or compassionate.

        Because they're not.


        https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ump_poker.html
        Under normal circumstances Hillary ideologically Hillary could have easily been considered a moderate republican. I am seeing more and more conservatives saying vote democrat. We can't afford to have more republicans who will only get in there and become another Trump patsy.You know who I mean the guys who are afraid to do the right thing because they are afraid to cross Trump's Nazi base.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by redrover View Post

          Under normal circumstances Hillary ideologically Hillary could have easily been considered a moderate republican. I am seeing more and more conservatives saying vote democrat. We can't afford to have more republicans who will only get in there and become another Trump patsy.You know who I mean the guys who are afraid to do the right thing because they are afraid to cross Trump's Nazi base.
          Trouble is, saying such dumb things and calling Trumps supporters his nazi base just makes leftists look stupid & undesirable and builds support for repubs.

          We have to stop with the dumb accusations that have no basis in reality if we honestly want a chance. We HAVE to find ways to shut people like Maxine and Nancy up.

          Now ignore what I just said please

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          • #6
            Originally posted by redrover View Post

            Under normal circumstances Hillary ideologically Hillary could have easily been considered a moderate republican. I am seeing more and more conservatives saying vote democrat. We can't afford to have more republicans who will only get in there and become another Trump patsy.You know who I mean the guys who are afraid to do the right thing because they are afraid to cross Trump's Nazi base.
            Don't be an ass: No one is "afraid to cross" Trump's base... and few republicans, if elected, will become "another" Trump patsy. Quit your fear and hate mongering. Just because you are all butt-hurt that Hillary lost, in no way indicates most Americans feel that way. You are the one who is out of touch.

            AND for goodness sake, get rid of Maxine Waters... She embarrasses the human race (never mind democrats) every time she opens that pie hole.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
              Don't be an ass: No one is "afraid to cross" Trump's base... and few republicans, if elected, will become "another" Trump patsy. Quit your fear and hate mongering. Just because you are all butt-hurt that Hillary lost, in no way indicates most Americans feel that way. You are the one who is out of touch.

              AND for goodness sake, get rid of Maxine Waters... She embarrasses the human race (never mind democrats) every time she opens that pie hole.
              Maxine is the best thing for America since president Trump !! LOL

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                Maxine is the best thing for America since president Trump !! LOL
                Good point, Captain:

                Belay my last: KEEP Maxine up front and loud. We real Americans appreciate it.

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                • #9
                  We've seen this before.

                  The Hysterical Left

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                  Historians are calling the outbursts of hate unprecedented. They are not.

                  In 1968, mobs cursed Lyndon Johnson, who had passed all the civil rights laws, howling, "Hey, hey, LBJ: How many kids did you kill today!"

                  A cautionary note to progressives: Extremism is how the left lost the future to Nixon and Reagan.

                  But though our media may act like this is 1968, we are not there, yet. That was history; this is still largely farce.

                  The comparisons with Nazi Germany are absurd. Does anyone truly believe that the centers where the children of illegal migrants are being held, run as they are by liberal bureaucrats from the Department of Health and Human Services, are like Stalin's Gulag or Hitler's camps?

                  This is hyperbole born of hysteria and hate.

                  When it comes to the rhetoric of hate, the cursing of politicians, the shouting down of speakers, the right is not innocent, but the left is infinitely more guilty. It was to the Donald Trump rallies, not the Bernie Sanders rallies, that the provocateurs came to start the fights.

                  Why? Because if you have been told and believe your opponents are fascists, then their gatherings are deserving not of respect but of disruption.

                  And, as was true in the 1960s, if you manifest your contempt, you will receive the indulgence of a media that will celebrate your superior morality.


                  https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbucha.../26/id/868269/




                  The hate of these people has turned, not only against themselves, but against all of us !

                  These are very sick people.

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                  "We are allowed to disagree, but should be able to do so freely and without fear of harm," she said.

                  "And this goes for all people, regardless of politics. Some have chosen hate and vandalism toward the restaurant. A Hollywood actor encouraged people to kidnap my children, and this weekend a member of Congress called for people to push back and make clear to those serving their country in this administration that they are not welcome anywhere, anytime, for anything.

                  "Healthy debate on ideas and political philosophy is important. But the calls for harassment and the push for any Trump supporter to avoid the public is unacceptable."


                  ..

                  https://www.newsmax.com/politics/sar.../25/id/868226/


                  They're realizing that they're ineffective.

                  They're realizing that people don't believe them anymore.

                  Like young children, they're having tantrums.

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                  As the midterm election nears and the fantasy of a blue wave diminishes in prospect, expect to see even more hysteria. What lies ahead? Who knows? But look for dramatic gestures, such as chaining themselves to the gates of facilities they object to, hunger strikes, and (of course) more weeping and yelling.

                  The mainstream media is caught in a vise of its own making, slowly being crushed between the jaws of Trumps successes and their own impotence.

                  We are watching the disintegration of the progressive mentality.

                  ..genuine mass hysteria is gripping the mainstream media. The first source is the political rise, election, and continuing successes of Donald Trump, currently presiding over the best economic times since the Reagan administration. Trump violates all the political norms that they learned, embraced and enforced in their own rise to media prominence. When norms are violated, anger is the dominant response of members of the group that holds the norms.

                  But what accounts for the hysteria that results in loss of self-control? I think that a second factor is at play. The mainstream media perceives that it has lost the ability to shape public perceptions beyond the 30% or so of the populace that is committed to left-progressivism. The majority of the public no longer trusts or believes what they have to say. And this sense of powerlessness in the face of a hated opponent is literally driving them crazy.


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                  https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ncreasing.html

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DavidSF View Post

                    Good point, Captain:

                    Belay my last: KEEP Maxine up front and loud. We real Americans appreciate it.
                    I will take a feisty black woman any day of the week over some weak chinned republican fat cat who is only there to facilitate Trump's drive to turn America into a monarchy.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      I will take a feisty black woman any day of the week over some weak chinned republican fat cat who is only there to facilitate Trump's drive to turn America into a monarchy.
                      Great. You can have her.

                      Best of luck to the both of you. HEY, maybe you can share a room at the loony bin.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DavidSF View Post

                        Great. You can have her.

                        Best of luck to the both of you. HEY, maybe you can share a room at the loony bin.
                        We just had our primary to fill Louise Slaughter's seat. My choice won He has been in the NY state legislature. He always got the endorsement from the teachers. I expect him to win Trumpism isn't a big winner up here

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by redrover View Post
                          We just had our primary to fill Louise Slaughter's seat. My choice won He has been in the NY state legislature. He always got the endorsement from the teachers. I expect him to win Trumpism isn't a big winner up here
                          Write us a Trumpism VS Obamaism comparison can you ?

                          In it you can even show us how Obamistan is better - or worse - than Trumpistan.

                          Things like that !

                          Help us "see the light" if you will.

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                          • #14
                            Hey, I need to get in on this one: I feel like giving today, so I'll help Red out a bit

                            Some of my favorite Obamaisms:
                            1. If youve got a business you didnt build that. Somebody else made that happen.
                            2. I do think at a certain point youve made enough money.
                            3. Ive got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I dont want them punished with a baby.
                            4. Its very rare that I come to an event where Im like the fifth- or sixth-most interesting person.
                            5. I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though.
                            6. In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died an entire town destroyed. (this was about a Kansas tornado that killed, ahem, 12 people)


                            AND, also, the treasure trove gets MUCH MORE full if we get to include Bidenisms like some of my favorites here:
                            • I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.I mean, thats a storybook, man.
                            • As Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S.


                            OR members of Obama's Administration:
                            • Theres a different leader in Syria now. Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe hes a reformer. (Hillary Clintoon)
                            • I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002. (Hillary Clintoon)
                            • What I notice about men, all men, is that their order is me, my family, God is in there somewhere, but me is first. (Michelle Obama)
                            • The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more. (Michelle Obama)


                            This is fun... there are literally HUNDREDS of 'em... all golden little nuggets. And, redrover, you're welcome.

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                            • #15
                              So ! Obama said some really dumb things, we can see. He did some really dumb things too.

                              Why do we have to ignore these ?

                              Oh ? We DON'T ?

                              Good !

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