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  • Now they hate the electoral college

    ... for now.

    The moronic attack on the electoral college.

    By those who would argue vigorously, all the way to the supreme court, if it got THEM elected

    They've forgotten that it's elected THEM so many times apparently

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    Deep thoughts on the Constitution from MSNBC's Chris Hayes

    Chris Hayes of MSNBC apparently is a big fan of tautology, delivering one of the stupidest lines of recent cable news memory.

    His studio audience failed to understand the fatuousness of this claim about the Electoral College:

    "If it wasn't [sic] in the Constitution specifically for the presidency, it would be unconstitutional."

    You may not believe me, so I have cued the video embedded below
    [ see link ] to the moment he utters this meaningless dictum:

    Now that the Electoral College no longer favors Democrats with the disintegration of the 'Blue Wall' of states that Democrats were believed to have a lock on, they suddenly have embarked on a campaign to question its legitimacy.

    When Donald Trump won Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin in 2016, the Electoral College turned from a Democrat advantage to one favoring the GOP, and that is all you need to know to understand the real basis of the rising chorus of media complaints against it. (In fairness, when the Blue Wall still favored Democrats, citizen Donald Trump railed against it in 2012.)


    [ How this works ? Those who lose, question the rules of the game ! I remember this in fourth grade on the playground ! ]

    Hayes, an Ivy Leaguer graduate of Brown University, may or may not have ever read the Federalist Papers that explain the logic of the Electoral College and the logic of the design of a constitutional republic, instead of a democracy ruled by a majority in all instances. He is definitely playing to a crowd that hasn't got a clue about these founding documents, and which denigrate our history prior to 10 minutes ago as the product of dead white male slave owners.

    This is deeply subversive of our constitutional order, and Hayes is positioning that common legacy as an unfair partisan advantage. Earlier in his broadcast, he called the Electoral College, 'An institution that has become sacred' to Republicans'. It is 'incompatible with our basic democratic commitment.'


    [ This fool clearly isn't aware that America isn't a democracy ]

    Now that the government schools and most of higher education are in the hands of progressive ideologues, the coming generations will be highly receptive to idiotic arguments such as his.

    There is no chance that the Left will be able to amend the Constitution, since too many states have their voices enhanced by the EC, so this campaign really is aimed at undermining public support for the Constitution, itself.

    Those who want government in charge of every aspect of our lives understand that the concept of limited government that is embedded throughout the Constitution is the major obstacle to their absolute power.


    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...stitution.html

  • #2
    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
    ... for now.

    The moronic attack on the electoral college.

    By those who would argue vigorously, all the way to the supreme court, if it got THEM elected

    They've forgotten that it's elected THEM so many times apparently

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Deep thoughts on the Constitution from MSNBC's Chris Hayes

    Chris Hayes of MSNBC apparently is a big fan of tautology, delivering one of the stupidest lines of recent cable news memory.

    His studio audience failed to understand the fatuousness of this claim about the Electoral College:

    "If it wasn't [sic] in the Constitution specifically for the presidency, it would be unconstitutional."

    You may not believe me, so I have cued the video embedded below
    [ see link ] to the moment he utters this meaningless dictum:

    Now that the Electoral College no longer favors Democrats with the disintegration of the 'Blue Wall' of states that Democrats were believed to have a lock on, they suddenly have embarked on a campaign to question its legitimacy.

    When Donald Trump won Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin in 2016, the Electoral College turned from a Democrat advantage to one favoring the GOP, and that is all you need to know to understand the real basis of the rising chorus of media complaints against it. (In fairness, when the Blue Wall still favored Democrats, citizen Donald Trump railed against it in 2012.)


    [ How this works ? Those who lose, question the rules of the game ! I remember this in fourth grade on the playground ! ]

    Hayes, an Ivy Leaguer graduate of Brown University, may or may not have ever read the Federalist Papers that explain the logic of the Electoral College and the logic of the design of a constitutional republic, instead of a democracy ruled by a majority in all instances. He is definitely playing to a crowd that hasn't got a clue about these founding documents, and which denigrate our history prior to 10 minutes ago as the product of dead white male slave owners.

    This is deeply subversive of our constitutional order, and Hayes is positioning that common legacy as an unfair partisan advantage. Earlier in his broadcast, he called the Electoral College, 'An institution that has become sacred' to Republicans'. It is 'incompatible with our basic democratic commitment.'


    [ This fool clearly isn't aware that America isn't a democracy ]

    Now that the government schools and most of higher education are in the hands of progressive ideologues, the coming generations will be highly receptive to idiotic arguments such as his.

    There is no chance that the Left will be able to amend the Constitution, since too many states have their voices enhanced by the EC, so this campaign really is aimed at undermining public support for the Constitution, itself.

    Those who want government in charge of every aspect of our lives understand that the concept of limited government that is embedded throughout the Constitution is the major obstacle to their absolute power.


    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...stitution.html
    Now they hate the electoral college

    Well of course. 'they' lost the election due to the electoral college in spite of winning the popular vote, and they'd be happy as pigs in shit if the electorate college were eliminated, as only the populous fringes of the nation's coasts would be determining who is elected to the office of president. All other voters, not in those populous fringes of the nation's coasts, would be completely disenfranchised and ignored.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
      Now they hate the electoral college

      Well of course. 'they' lost the election due to the electoral college in spite of winning the popular vote, and they'd be happy as pigs in shit if the electorate college were eliminated, as only the populous fringes of the nation's coasts would be determining who is elected to the office of president. All other voters, not in those populous fringes of the nation's coasts, would be completely disenfranchised and ignored.
      It's bad enough as it is, with these highly populated coastal states having the huge number of EC votes.

      They want to be able to 100 % assure themselves of never losing LOL

      They have advantage enough !

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

        It's bad enough as it is, with these highly populated coastal states having the huge number of EC votes.

        They want to be able to 100 % assure themselves of never losing LOL

        They have advantage enough !
        Agreed.

        They have the advantage and still lost, and are now wanting to 'fix' it so that they don't lose, by cheating, lying, stealing, and disenfranchising far more voters whom they don't like, and don't like which way they vote.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
          Agreed.

          They have the advantage and still lost, and are now wanting to 'fix' it so that they don't lose, by cheating, lying, stealing, and disenfranchising far more voters whom they don't like, and don't like which way they vote.
          Why do these people so openly promote cheating & hate ?

          And get away with it ??

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

            Why do these people so openly promote cheating & hate ?

            And get away with it ??
            Because the leftist media protect them.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
              Because the leftist media protect them.
              Which clearly means that the leftist media is promoting cheating and hate.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                Which clearly means that the leftist media is promoting cheating and hate.
                Yes, they are. #Lgenpresse

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                  Yes, they are. #Lgenpresse
                  Of course you fellows would believe giving meaning to every vote is cheating. Anything that reduces the effectiveness of Republican gerrymandering is cheating right?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    Of course you fellows would believe giving meaning to every vote is cheating.
                    Is that right ?

                    Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    Anything that reduces the effectiveness of Republican gerrymandering is cheating right?
                    Anything that reduces the effectiveness of Democrat gerrymandering is cheating right?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                      Is that right ?



                      Anything that reduces the effectiveness of Democrat gerrymandering is cheating right?
                      That sounds very Trumpian. He says he cheats at golf because the guys he plays with cheat. Since he started playing with Lindsay Graham that's probably true.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by redrover View Post

                        Of course you fellows would believe giving meaning to every vote is cheating. Anything that reduces the effectiveness of Republican gerrymandering is cheating right?
                        It isn't the political right which is promoting the elimination of the Electoral College. Democrats are all so concerned about disenfranchising voters, right? This is the one thing they keep claiming when it comes to voter ID. Well, eliminating the Electoral College would disenfranchise all US voters except for the 2 thin blue areas on the coast.

                        So either be consistent about not wanting to disenfranchise ALL voters or drop the unfounded claim. Besides, I don't recall there being any reasonable proof that voter ID would disenfranchise any voters, all that's repeated is anecdotal stories about a voter here or there.

                        If you are really a supporter of integrity of the vote, then you'd be in agreement that voter fraud is bad regardless of who does it, be it to the benefit of the Democrat or Republican party.

                        Heritage Foundation experts have long pointed out that voter fraud is not particular to one party or ideology. At its core, people cheat in elections to further their preferred causes or to advance their own careers, and theres nothing inherently conservative or liberal about the desire to win.

                        Thats hardly a shocking revelation. Lerma is the latestbut hardly the firstRepublican to be caught and convicted of election crimes. In fact, The Heritage Foundations voter fraud database contains many examples of fraud perpetrated by people on the political right.

                        Nevertheless, whenever a right-leaning vote fraudster is identified, liberal activists and politicians relish needling conservatives over the alleged hypocrisy.

                        They did it last year, when widespread absentee ballot tampering tainted the results of the race in North Carolinas 9th Congressional District. (A special election for that seat will be held on Sept. 10.)

                        Some outlets are doing it now with the Lerma case, pointing out the irony that Trumpwho has claimed that he most likely would have won the popular vote in 2016 if millions of illegal votes had not been cast against himactually benefited from this very type of fraud.

                        But those reactionsthough par for the course in todays divisive politicsmiss the point entirely.

                        If liberal politicians, pundits, and publications want to devote their time and attention to election integrity, they are welcome toand should. But they ought to be focusing less on the party affiliation of the fraudster, and more on finding solutions to combat the fraud they perpetrate.

                        After all, whenever voter fraud occurs, it undermines the electoral process for everyone.

                        Fortunately, we know what policies work to combat voter fraud. Voter identification laws and programs to clean up wildly inaccurate voter rolls help to verify that only eligible individuals are voting, and that they are casting ballots in the jurisdictions where they actually reside.

                        Interstate cross-check programs, meanwhile, compare state voter rolls and help to identify duplicate registrations and single out double-voters.

                        These policies are not only common sense, they are urgently needed. A 2012 Pew study found that one out of every eight voter registrations were inaccurate, with 2.8 million people registered in two or more states.
                        https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/08/...nd-bipartisan/
                        KEY TAKEAWAYS
                        1. At its core, people cheat in elections to further their preferred causes or to advance their own careers.
                        2. Whenever a right-leaning vote fraudster is identified, liberal activists and politicians relish needling conservatives over the alleged hypocrisy.
                        3. Whenever voter fraud occurs, it undermines the electoral process for everyone.

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