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  • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    Why would drug companies not support Obama? They've made out like bandits by supporting his Obamacare push, and in return they get free reign. Why would car companies not support Obama? Romney wanted them to go bankrupt, Obama kept the doors open. Why would the health insurance industry not support Obama? By keeping Obamacare alive, they guarantee tens of millions of more customers. Why would banks not favor Obama, he hasn't regulated them basically at all in the wake of the biggest economic collapse since the depression ... and THEY CAUSED IT. Similarly, Wall Street has done exceedingly well since 2008 given the otherwise crappy economy, why wouldn't wall street support Obama?

    The more I see your posts, the more I doubt your economic credentials. Where one person sees economic collapse and entrepreneur sees a new market. Someone who actually understands economics would understand that concept. I can understand why SOME companies might prefer Romney, but I can understand why other companies might prefer Obama.
    Excellent post but we're not "smart" enough to vote for Romney.

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    • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
      Why would drug companies not support Obama? They've made out like bandits by supporting his Obamacare push, and in return they get free reign. Why would car companies not support Obama? Romney wanted them to go bankrupt, Obama kept the doors open. Why would the health insurance industry not support Obama? By keeping Obamacare alive, they guarantee tens of millions of more customers. Why would banks not favor Obama, he hasn't regulated them basically at all in the wake of the biggest economic collapse since the depression ... and THEY CAUSED IT. Similarly, Wall Street has done exceedingly well since 2008 given the otherwise crappy economy, why wouldn't wall street support Obama?

      The more I see your posts, the more I doubt your economic credentials. Where one person sees economic collapse and entrepreneur sees a new market. Someone who actually understands economics would understand that concept. I can understand why SOME companies might prefer Romney, but I can understand why other companies might prefer Obama.
      Anyone who understands economics knows that there are conditions which tend to make wealth grow, and there are conditions which stall economic growth. Of course there are some exceptions to virtually every rule, but in the long run one must choose the best options available at the time. Your accepting or doubting my credentials is irrelevant. I am where I am because I have chosen correctly enough to make money for my company. Whether you want to believe it or not, Obama's anti business ideology are not good for the overall economy. If you don't see that it is obvious you don't understand economics, and you choose not to learn.

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      Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
      Excellent post but we're not "smart" enough to vote for Romney.
      That depends, did you vote for Obama? If the answer to that question is yes, you answered your own question.

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      • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

        If the only job of a representative is to do nothing, we don't need representatives.

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          I voted for Obama because I know too many people who have been hurt by Pubs.
          We're these people part of a study?
          Probably not.
          Which, of course, in your theoretical world, means they don't exist.

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          • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
            Why would drug companies not support Obama? They've made out like bandits by supporting his Obamacare push, and in return they get free reign. Why would car companies not support Obama? Romney wanted them to go bankrupt, Obama kept the doors open. Why would the health insurance industry not support Obama? By keeping Obamacare alive, they guarantee tens of millions of more customers. Why would banks not favor Obama, he hasn't regulated them basically at all in the wake of the biggest economic collapse since the depression ... and THEY CAUSED IT. Similarly, Wall Street has done exceedingly well since 2008 given the otherwise crappy economy, why wouldn't wall street support Obama?

            The more I see your posts, the more I doubt your economic credentials. Where one person sees economic collapse and entrepreneur sees a new market. Someone who actually understands economics would understand that concept. I can understand why SOME companies might prefer Romney, but I can understand why other companies might prefer Obama.
            Economic credentials are never to be trusted. The fact that you have left wing and right wing economists( he is a right wing economist) logically says economics is first and forement political and not economics proper. When politics slant and bias a field of study, that field of study had no credibility any longer.

            There may be a scant few genuine non political economists. Trouble is they are far outnumbered and the others by their sheer numbers and their louder partisan rantings drown out the real economists. Fox uses right wing ones, MSM uses the left wing ones. Not much profit in being a non political economist, you might starve to death in this polarized envirionment.

            Most economists would find a trade as confidence men if they lost their jobs.

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            • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
              I voted for Obama because I know too many people who have been hurt by Pubs.
              We're these people part of a study?
              Probably not.
              Which, of course, in your theoretical world, means they don't exist.
              Not at all. Of course GOP policies have hurt people. I agree with that. I am not a republican. But of all the people currently either out of work or underemployed, the studies say clearly Obama's policies have hurt them equally bad or worse than Bush's policies. You seem to believe that simply because I do not like Obama's anti-business policies that I am part of that other useless political party. None of this has to do with a theoretical world. These are people in the real world who are hurting and nothing has been done to help them.

              Decisions have to be made based on the big picture, not some micro cluster of people you may know or have worked with. They have to be made considering conditions in the US, governmental attitudes on taxation, regulation and leadership; and, conditions in the rest of the world. When you take the narrow view it is easy to condemn another's opinions, because you simply don't have all the data to make a reasonable decision.

              Gotta go, there is a board meeting I need to attend to discuss my proposals (all three potential) before the board makes a final decision. I think you know what I am going to recommend.

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              • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                Economic credentials are never to be trusted. The fact that you have left wing and right wing economists( he is a right wing economist)
                Actually I am a capitalist paradigm economist, not right wing. Politics has noting to do with it, just the acquisition of economic growth for the company and society as a whole.
                logically says economics is first and forement political and not economics proper. When politics slant and bias a field of study, that field of study had no credibility any longer.

                There may be a scant few genuine non political economists. Trouble is they are far outnumbered and the others by their sheer numbers and their louder partisan rantings drown out the real economists. Fox uses right wing ones, MSM uses the left wing ones. Not much profit in being a non political economist, you might starve to death in this polarized envirionment.

                Most economists would find a trade as confidence men if they lost their jobs.
                You obviously know nothing about economics or you would not make such sweeping and ridiculous comments.

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                • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                  Economic credentials are never to be trusted. The fact that you have left wing and right wing economists( he is a right wing economist) logically says economics is first and forement political and not economics proper. When politics slant and bias a field of study, that field of study had no credibility any longer.

                  There may be a scant few genuine non political economists. Trouble is they are far outnumbered and the others by their sheer numbers and their louder partisan rantings drown out the real economists. Fox uses right wing ones, MSM uses the left wing ones. Not much profit in being a non political economist, you might starve to death in this polarized envirionment.

                  Most economists would find a trade as confidence men if they lost their jobs.
                  Most economists believe in demand economics not supply economics. They believe if supply economics worked then the great depression would never had occurred. I believe poor regulation was the reason for the great recession of 2008.
                  My only concern about Romney was whether he was going to do it his way or what the party wanted (or the NEW Tea Party wanted). He flip flopped too much so he could win the primary and please evangelicals and that damaged his credibility. The conservative section of politics is quite fractured. There are libertarians, moderates and right-wing (Old Testament) Christians.

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                  • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                    Just something related to the election:

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                    • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by CalifornCracker View Post
                      Whether you want to believe it or not, Obama's anti business ideology are not good for the overall economy.
                      See its blanket statements like that, and where you then state that anybody running a company should have supported Romney, that are just factually too extreme to suggest any actual economic analysis. Some industries have done quite well under Obama, some have not done so well. Those that have not done well would need to examine whether they would do any better under Romney. You just come out with a blanket statement that pretty much says any company should have been supporting Romney this election.

                      That would be like an engineer saying that metal ships are more durable therefore everyone who owns a boat should own a metal-hulled boat. That would be far to simplistic and any engineer recommending such nonsense as a general requirement should rightfully be laughed out of the room. There are plenty of applications where an inflatable boat is optimal, or a wood boat, or a fiberglass boat. It just depends on the specifics at hand.

                      Likewise, any economist suggesting that every company should have supported Romney should not be considered as giving any relevant information. Whether a company should support Romney or not would depend on the specifics at hand. In fact, some companies (as one example think of bear market mutual funds) do BETTER when the general economy falls. Shouldn't bear-market fund managers be lining up to support Obama? Or should they vote for Romney in hopes that you are correct that Romney is some kind of miracle-pill and in turn their funds will tank? Hell, companies like Bain Capital should actually THRIVE when the economy is bad. Romney himself should have supported Obama (maybe that's why he threw the election by making the statements he did?)

                      Finally, Obama has cut the size of the federal government, and while the job numbers have remained fairly similar (~8% unemployment), effectively that means he has shifted government jobs to the private sector which is EXACTLY the type of thing that the republican party claims to stand for.
                      Last edited by Disillusioned_1; 11-07-2012, 07:54 PM.

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                      • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by CalifornCracker View Post
                        Anyone who understands economics knows that there are conditions which tend to make wealth grow, and there are conditions which stall economic growth. Of course there are some exceptions to virtually every rule, but in the long run one must choose the best options available at the time. Your accepting or doubting my credentials is irrelevant. I am where I am because I have chosen correctly enough to make money for my company. Whether you want to believe it or not, Obama's anti business ideology are not good for the overall economy. If you don't see that it is obvious you don't understand economics, and you choose not to learn.

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                        That depends, did you vote for Obama? If the answer to that question is yes, you answered your own question.
                        Welll I have the equivalent to a BA in Macro Economics with my degree in Actuarial Maths and Statistics....

                        So enlighten me were Romney's polices were better for business than Obama's....

                        I expect Empirical Evidence to back your case...

                        You made the statement, now prove it...

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                        • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by CalifornCracker View Post
                          One of the very reasons I recommended Spain is their skilled labor supply..Where did you get the idea that the Spanish are lazy? Most of them that I know work 2 jobs, and the "continuing education" for skilled labor is very good in Spain.
                          I have actually worked in Spain briefly for an American company. I was sent there for 2 weeks to help them with one of our products.

                          All I can say is google "siesta".

                          Actually I was pushing for manufacturing overseas early on because people who buy our products in other markets like for those products to benefit their labor pool.
                          Lol, I guess the same logic does not apply when Americans buy products. We could care less whether the products we buy benefit our labor pool? If we DO care, then perhaps you should look in the mirror, Mr "all American companies should ship all production overseas".

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                          • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                            Republicans had taking over the Senate in the bag. Most pundits expected the GOP to take three to six seats, or more.

                            Republicans had 10 Senate seats up for grabs. Democrats had 23.

                            How'd that work out?

                            Democrats held ALL 23 SEATS, and took two of the Republicans' 10 seats.

                            Wow. What a thrashing of the far right.

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                            • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by CalifornCracker View Post
                              Not at all. Of course GOP policies have hurt people. I agree with that. I am not a republican. But of all the people currently either out of work or underemployed, the studies say clearly Obama's policies have hurt them equally bad or worse than Bush's policies.
                              Bullshit.

                              Bull Shit.

                              The most balanced look at the effects of the stimulus that I have been able to find is here There are a few studies that suggest no positive effect, but they are certainly in the minority and have significant problems.

                              As for the president's policies being bad for business, just ask the auto workers how they feel about that. Check that, they already told us--at the ballot box.

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                              • Re: Election Day 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by jpn View Post
                                Bullshit.

                                Bull Shit.

                                The most balanced look at the effects of the stimulus that I have been able to find is here There are a few studies that suggest no positive effect, but they are certainly in the minority and have significant problems.

                                As for the president's policies being bad for business, just ask the auto workers how they feel about that. Check that, they already told us--at the ballot box.
                                By balanced you mean the only one that comes close to agreeing with your beliefs. The stimulus was simply a payback for helping to elect Obama.

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